A Sexy Alex, stage 1: AMMO, TUTH, TAC, Hedione

I did leave out a few details, like I’m pretty regular at that Starbucks and for the past few days she now remarks about my recent habits, like mixing the coffee with protein powder and “leaving the personal cup un-rinsed for the refill” to mix whatever powder somehow remained unmixed, and how the TV screen that is supposed to show the currently playing song on the sound system has been stuck on the same song for about a month.

In my experience, no woman pays that close attention to my eating habits (even baristas who know me as a regular) unless they’re somehow attracted to me.

I see. But I still think it was a tad bit too gutsy to make a move when you weren’t quite sure how this particular mix affects others.

She probably gets such offers like a hundred times a day. The girl was laughing, maybe she laughs like that every time she gets that. This has nothing to do with the lack of sexual IMO. Maybe cloud exposition was too short. You went all in a bit early. You’ll know next time you see her wether you became a candidate, or a joke.

Actually, the coworker was laughing, not her, and I think that affected her decision, like she might have felt that if she accepted she would be judged negatively by her peers.

Other than that, you’re probably spot on with your analysis, especially about all-in too early. In actual Texas Hold’em poker I’m much better than that, so I should probably apply some of my poker methodology to social navigation.

2016-01-11/Monday: AMMO - two sprays on wrists and spread at 1:55pm, TAC - four sprays on forearms and spread at 1:55pm

  • went to get some coffee at Starbucks, two female baristas at the counter neither of them the Latina from before but one of them was the one who cackled

  • the cackling one, probably early 20s probably Latina light complexion and probably overweight but still an ok face, was pretty stone-faced the whole time and seemed to be impatient when I came up later to ask for a refill of the half-and-half carafe

  • no other discernible responses from anyone

  • self-effects: I was still feeling a bit salty about the day before, so I didn’t feel open and jovial, probably resisted potential self-effects

In other news, the hedione arrived! I look forward to using it soon.

AAUGH. Explicit language warning.

I FEEL SO HORNY RIGHT NOW AND WANT TO FCK A HOT CHICK.

Felt the need to state it explicitly. Full disclosure: almost called an escort from Backpage because I didn’t feel I could attract it naturally, would have cost me $200. I resisted, but am still horny, so I’ll just jack it and spend $100 on stronger mones. Since A314 is not in stock I’ll get P96 definitely (25mcg To-Go to try it out), probably MX351, probably Instant Shine. Since that adds up to >$100 I apparently get P131 as a gift this week.

Would anyone here be willing to tell me what P131 does? I keep reading that it’s mainly social, but I don’t know if it would suit better than IShine or possibly P74 (which I was also considering from the low-cost fallout thread).

2016-01-14/Thursday: TUTH - one spray on wrists and spread at 11:30am + one spray on upper chest at 11:30am (5mcg total), TAC - four sprays on forearms and spread at 11:30am (10mcg total), Hedione - one dab on wrist at 11:30am + ACCIDENTALLY SPILLED A BIT ON MY SHIRT SLEEVE WHILE FUMBLING TO CHANGE HANDS TO DAB ON OTHER WRIST

  • went to Starbucks for some coffee, the blonde female manager, I’m thinking mid-to-late 20s or early 30s, was on shift

  • chatting with her while ordering my coffee felt more routine than normal, like she felt uninterested; normally I make a comment about how the video screen is stuck on the same song and not synchronized to the audio playlist over the speakers, but today I didn’t and she looked bored when I came up to order

  • there was a cute, short, slightly chubby chick, possibly early 20s probably Latina, wearing black hose and blue heels who kept walking past me for no reason and seemed to be giving me feet-pointed-at-me signals

  • as I was leaving a trio of police officers, one male two female, entered and the prettier one, slightly taller than me, possible mid-to-late 20s probably Latina or mixed, seemed to have a response; she seemed to do the “is he looking at me” look-back and smiled at me when she did it, and stared at me with a smile and “happy eyes” as I was leaving

  • self-effects: less interested in conversing, tiredness was showing but likely not related to the mones, but the usual effort to put up an energetic front seemed to be gone

  • self-effects: later in the day I met up with my mother to go see Star Wars in the theaters and on the train ride back I found myself staring into space most of the ride; don’t know what that was about

The scent of the accidentally spilled hedione is a bit overpowering, but it seems to carry a bit further than the Neroli of either the TUTH or the TAC. I don’t know how much hedione was spilled total, but some hit my sleeve and some hit the floor.

You can actually smell intensely pure hedione? How strange. Undiluted, for me, it almost smells like tap water.

Filled out details.

Strange? Hm. I know that my sense of smell has been abnormal over the years, but I find it unlikely I’d be able to smell something intended to not be odorous where other people can’t.

To me, its smell reminds me of this one orchid my aunt used to have and this one other sappy flower I don’t actually remember the name of that I smell much more often in incense form than in flower form and seems to also be found in the smell of a certain Te-Amo cigar box. There’s a slight bit of what might be dung or stink beetle in the scent as well, but I may be imagining things there. The only word I can think of right now to describe the total scent is “tangy.”

Did I not get hedione? The label says methyl dihydro-jasmonate.

Agreed. Unless diluted there shouldn’t be a scent really.

Stazz I think it was unnecessary to spray on your cheat if you are in a situation where you don’t take off your shirt.
Also, I still think you don’t have nearly enough TAC for what your going for.
Me and justintime use 20mcg TAC for 5mcg TUTH.. Twice what you’re using.
Also we spray those on the neck so that they evenly distribute to the target.

Ok, I’ll keep in mind 10mcg TAC for every 2.5mcg TUTH, and none on the chest unless I plan on having it more exposed.

Upper chest (i.e. like two to three inches under adam’s apple) can be an option if you’re wearing a shirt with the first button undone. I do that often. This way, I can discreetly flap my collar once or twice every once in a while to diffuse a boost of mones near chosen targets. Plus, that spot is near a major pulse point (i.e. heart, yeah we tend to forget that one :slight_smile: ). Just remember, though, as Jdub said, covered = bad (there is no exception to this).

2016-01-15/Friday: TUTH - one spray on wrists and spread at 1:20pm (2.5mcg total), TAC - four sprays on forearms and spread at 1:20pm (10mcg total), Hedione - one dab on wrist at 1:20pm

  • went to Starbucks for some coffee, a different blonde female barista, likely early 20s, who I chatted with briefly before was on shift

  • today she was kind of cold to me, not interested in making small talk

  • a cute female customer who’s a regular there seemed to finally have a response, albeit small, with brushing back her hair while she was standing behind me in line after I said hello to hair

  • self-effects: felt a bit more smiley while putting sugar and cream in the coffee, but otherwise felt preoccupied

I didn’t read the above posts until after I had already applied the mones today, but from now on I’ll put the TUTH and TAC on the neck and TMJ again instead of the wrists.

As for the hedione scent, I’m smelling it directly from the bottle right now as I type and even though it’s much lighter than before I smell an unmistakably floral scent. I have a historically sensitive sense of smell, maybe that’s why I can smell it?

Maybe cause in my case, I dilute like 25% to 33% and boom, I get a floral jasmine tea smell, but a light scent it is. Otherwise, no scent.

I’ll test pure hedione solo with my girlfriend scent wise soon. She has a better sense of smell than I do. And then, I’ll test her take on a spray from my diluted bottle. I’ll report her comments in my journal.

Also, try giving two sprays of TUTH a try, 5mcg. Anything less gave me the same results you’ve been getting.
I think it is strange you can smell the hedione.
My guess is you’re correct that you must have a better sense of smell. Sometimes I can smell hedione dabs after they’ve been on my skin a while.
But I’ve been wearing mones and hedione on my neck for a long time so maybe I’m just used to the smell.

When I first received my pure hedione bottle, I took a deep whiff and did not pick up anything. It was my first ever impression. I don’t think it’s because you are used to it. Maybe some smell it, and some don’t. There’s a clever word for it, it think it’s anosmia. But I picked up the jasmine tea smell instanlty when I attempted my first dilution, that was with PA.

2016-01-16/Saturday: TUTH - one spray on each TMJ at 1:45pm (5mcg total), TAC - eight sprays on sides of neck at 1:45pm (20mcg total), Hedione - one dab on wrist and spread at 1:45pm

Note: This is the first time I’m using a full 20mcg TAC; since I’ve basically been “rationing” it next time I’ll be sure to get a 5 or even 10 mcg/spray bottle.

  • went to Trader Joe’s to buy some protein bars, a blonde girl, white+early 20s looking+slightly geeky+6 or 7/10, in front of me on the line to the counter might have had a response: after a couple of minutes on the line she began caressing her face, neck, and upper chest for almost the rest of the time on the line and kept apologizing to me for leaving the line for about 10-15 seconds a piece to get last-minute veggies next to the line
  • went to Starbucks after to get a Starbucks Reward frappuccino, the dark Latina barista from before was on shift; from the time she saw me on the line she stared at me a bit weirdly, was this DIHL? We didn’t chat at all and after I got my frap I left.

2016-01-17/Sunday update relevant to this one:

I went to the Starbucks to get some coffee (without applying new mones, but wearing the same shirt, jacket, and scarf as before) and the dark Latina was on shift today. She chatted with me a bit when I brought up a milk carafe to get it refilled and once again brought up my habits, which she called “picky” and came off as more friendly and approachable. She asked me “do you need anything else” and I very much felt like saying “your number” but didn’t. A few minutes later she was standing at the register (no line waiting) while I was sitting nearby and out of the corner of my eye I caught her staring at me and licking her lips while I was eating a protein bar.

So, yea, I’m 75% certain she’s into me, but I don’t know how to proceed and I’m worried impatience and my apparently lack of social tact will win out.

I had the same problem, my friend told me when your approaching a girl you like, imagine you are making her cum. This will make you smile and look approachable, and it will help eliminate your impatience/ anxiety.

If she asks if you need anything else, ask for her number.

I think the social part is something you may just have to work on. I find this is one off the biggest factors holding a guy back. I mean they are well dressed, hair slicked back, perfect pheromone mix, the works. But without actually acting on it holds you back.

Shortly after getting into mones I started getting a lot more attention and it boosted my confidence, and from this I could almost have any women I wanted from then on.

So I know it is easier said then done for sure. But to walk up and ask her out or for her number will take all of 20-30 seconds of courage and you are in. I mean with that mix I all you have to do is act.

I really hope you wear the same mix again and ask for her number, because I have no doubt about you getting it.