A word from djAndarial

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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Fellow Mon’ers.

I have to say that in all of my research I feel that there are certian truisms.

  1. Women are drawn to men who are different, yet are normal in a well rounded cultures sort of way.

  2. Women have no idea what type of guy they wish to have a relationship with; (b) if they do know it is because they are either (1b) emotionaly jade’d or have been hurt before and are looking for something different (2b) they are sure of themselves and have a fetish of looks they want fufilled.

  3. Women are very very fickle, and their emotions drive them more than they are willing to let on.

  4. Women will go bar hopping when it is that time of the month, (Vodka Cranberry) anyone?

  5. During a women’s cycle, they will be looking for something different, some will look for facial hair or scars for alpha male, or some will look for that metrosexual we all hate and just want to screw with for looking like a little punkass.

  6. Aside from what some of you may think, just as my long haul 10 month stay here is just about coming to a full year, -rone seems to be more of a useful molefule than that of -none.

  7. From my studies based on reports from Madisontate aka the tater, Diamond from across the pond (england) and as well as catlord aka TC (topCat)hehe, a more natural -rone based attraction with a attractant P83/86 1:4 combination coupled with a feel good Taa 1:8 to rone with a little jump kick of 50mcg of meo-est is a hell of a well rounded excellent guy that it is hard to get upset with and not like. When employing this combination or varients there of, it is essential when you have someone on a second date or having a few drinks to use 1 shot of tuth 2.5mcg -none +taa+P86 I believe under your shirt not on top skin so that it will diffuse slower and seem more natural.

  8. The so-called pickup artists are the entry level guys for seduction. It is as mystery calls the Venetian Artists (sp on that?) that are the true game players. Pickup is only 1/3 the battle, for social dynamics as well as continuing relationship it is the latter artist that is able to build social circles with themselves in the middle and have people flock to them, thereby negating displays of higher value and seeming more open and liked and held in high esteem and well regard to the general populace. A guy that most know and like, even if he was to sleep with a few girls, it is that it is ok since he may have felt they didn’t click and it was better to know sooner rather than repair something that didn;t work later.

  9. Mones are tools, in a quote of mine “Pheromones are not fuck me juice, you have to work it a bit.” - I ment every word of that.

  10. General note, Life is what you are wiling to make of it. As an example take a definition of courage I like to use for self motivation.

Courage - The emotional upturn for self empowerment as seen through self-inflection based on circumstances of trouble or strife, a change of state due not to the absence of fear but the due use of that fear to stay the course with said emotion in tow.

Translation: Courage is not having fear, it is bearing down and trudging ahead with that fear in you. ie. Doing what must be done; even with self sacrifice if need be.

Conclusion: Pheromones are tools, in my opinion that should be used to enhance your personal quality of life rather than chase women.

Proverb: You can spend a lot of money chasing women, but you can not stop women from chasing money.

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I think it’s more that they are drawn to men who stand out from the men around them in some positive way. More relaxed and in control. More playful. More socially aware, in ways that show (manners, style, etc). Better at some skill which is valued in that social environment. They look for the guy who is the “best” in that environment. The definition of “best” varying depending on the exact environment.

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Nice thoughts/findings, DJ! :wink:

What mcgs of P8:86 did you test?

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Exactly Tezza.

M&M

I was using 15mcg P83 to 60mcg P86

however if I only use P83, I use 60mcg… this is a wild effect at 60mcg…

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print it out and tape it to the wall.

truth in these words…

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Thanks Jay :wink:

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  1. Just because it worked for one girl doesn’t mean it’ll work on all of them.
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That statement should be at the TOP of everyone’s MONES NOTES!

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That is very true Blacky Chan, but I feel that is covered in #2, #3, & #5.

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Mones are effective in altering the vibe you give off. As a matter of fact they are incredibly effective in altering your vibe. Of course your vibe alone will not get you laid but it’s a great starting point.

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I agree metal tree

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I WON 3RD PLACE for WEEK 51.

Lets make sure the award system works :wink: Where is my TOTW Award #3??

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i’m gonna have to disagree a lot with what you said.

  1. women are drawn to dominant males with good social skills. this is something you have to experience to understand. you realize you used the words normal and different in the same sentence right? wtf?

  2. you’re describing the minority on this one..the confused ones that make up like 10 percent.

  3. i agree with you on this.

  4. there’s no correlation between when a girl goes barhopping and when her cylcle is. the fact that’s it’s a friday has to do more with it than if she’s on the rag. besides how did u come to this conclusion? go around and stick your finger in every girls vagina?

  5. meh, it’s true that women behave differently during ovulation…but changing what type of guys they’re after and acting on it? das going a lil too far. once again how do you know this?

6, 7, and 9 i quit using mones because i realized that self improvement will give you much better results. what’s that saying that it’s 90% you and 10% mones? well even a slight improvement in the 90% area will yield better results than huge improvements in the 10% arena…basic math. i’ve busted my ass trying to improve myself for the past 6 months and i’m getting the kind of “hits” that i used to read people wanted to make magical mixes for.

  1. pickup is a compensating device for those lacking social skills. i’ve never known anyone with good social skills that had trouble getting laid.

  2. i agree and cool insight into courage yes.

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  1. I was saying that in my stance, a normal person is a well rounded cultured person. Most men are not, especially in america. Thus a difference would be finding one of these who know who they are and what they expect in social company. That is the Differential Normal.

  2. I disagree, I believe I am correct on this. Let take the cdc data for marriages and divorces in the USA for 2009~ numbers

  • Number of marriages: 2,162,000
  • Marriage rate: 7.1 per 1,000 total population
  • Divorce rate: 3.5 per 1,000 population (44 reporting States and D.C.)

Roughly 48% of the total number of marriages.

Something went wrong, hard to blame it on just the ladies, but we know what guys want, and to be honest, it is called a sex lull for a reason.

  1. We agree on this

  2. I spoke candidly to many women of varying ages I would say over 30 to 50, in my research and it is research, the responses were along the same lines. The older ladies understood thir urges to find a suitable partner for sex as well as their emotions to rather find someone to talk to and converse. The younger ladies, well they jsut wanted to go out, or have fun, and flirt… the whole screw guys lets go dance and have a taxicab confessional lol.

  3. Here you go.

“However,
recent studies demonstrate increases in women’s sexual motivation near ovulation, raising the question of whether human ovulation could be
marked by observable changes in overt behavior. Using a sample of 30 partnered women photographed at high and low fertility cycle phases, we
show that readily-observable behaviors – self-grooming and ornamentation through attractive choice of dress – increase during the fertile phase of
the ovulatory cycle.”

Factors In Human Mate Selection - Info Barrel

“At mid-cycle, women were more attracted to men who were not their partners. This was limited by their mates’ symmetry, though. Women who had asymmetrical mates were more likely to be attracted to extra-pair men during ovulation. In response, men are more dominant of their mates’ time during ovulation to discourage extra-pair mating.”

Women’s Voices Become More High-pitched During Ovulation

“The authors show for the first time that women unconsciously change their voices with the approach of ovulation, using a higher, more feminine pitch in social communication.”

Need I say more? Just because the reasons are not understood does not mean I am wrong.

6,7,9. - Well that is your choice, I am not pandering I am simply making observations and postulating hypothesis.

  1. Pickup is a way for people with social anxiety to overcome shortfalls. Social intelligence and an understanding of social dynamics and sociology in general is key in actually understanding why people do the things they do.

This is different from the girl who can pick up signs and body language, but in a way the same as it is a TOOL, not a crutch, pickup is the cusp of social understanding and breaking the shell of social dynamics.

  1. Thanks for the compliment.

I never wrote this to down ladies, or call men losers for using pheromones or pickup strategies. It was to demonstrate that there are questions that can be answered in the field of sociology in this new specialization of social dynamics, a sort of bastard child of psychology, hypno-therapy, sociology, biology and history.

I am merely a traveler, and these are but a few of my notes along the journey.

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  1. i think we’re saying the same thing from different directions. a huge part of dominance in knowing who you are…you can’t be confident if you don’t know what the fuck you’re talkin about.

  2. you’re looking at marriage statistics to figure out what women want? ok, just stop and think about that for a minute and you tell me what’s wrong with that. dam dude.

  3. you’re generalizing dude…what about the girls that are having a bad day? my point is that socialization has nothing to do with periods dammit!

  4. ya i know women change their behaviours during ovulation

  5. naw dude, you’re looking at the surface…you haven’t thought of the underlying causes. think about what causes social anxiety.

i commend you for doing the “research” or whatever but i also think that you are hindering your own growth by looking for surface reasons for why things happen. Instead of trying to figure out every little thing…try to search for the underlieing deeper meaning behind it. i think this will help you much more.

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uffff
i smell burnt meoww :stuck_out_tongue:

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nope try again :cool:

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And not for the first time as I recall, meow, I told you months ago, there is more to the dating game than PUA, lol.

PUA, Mones, Natural game, they all have a part to play, the fact is, none of us guys know the female brain, some of us understand more than others and are lucky, some of us recognise that we can all learn from each other.

Hell, I’ve just scored a date with a girl who is a master NLP practitioner/tutor. Game, mones, hypnosis, you know what, I’ve never even met her face to face, one phone call, two emails, we hit it off and she invited me on a date. Proves a point, if the chemistry is there, you don’t need to be anything but yourself!

With that gentlemen, happy Xmas, awesome new year and be all you can be, may next year be your best yet.

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haha you have more than a few valid points. but it also seems like youre dying to disagree.:roll_eyes:

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dying to disagree pssst. i say it like i see it.