A314 + is + p74 = holy grail of mixes

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So some of you might already know that I work as a waiter in a restaurant bar, so I get to see lots of people on workdays and test my mixes.

Anyway, yesterday I decide to lay off the Ammo for a while and wear something non-sexual to work, but boy was I wrong. I wore:

2 drops of A314 oil to both sides of the neck
2 sprays of IS behind each ear (reg. strength)
2 sprays of P74 on each bicep for a total of 20 mcg (10mcg/spray)
1/2 spray P75 on neck and under nose (1.25 mcg for self effects)

I’m seriously not exaggerating when I say, the amount of IOI’s and DIHLs I was getting was ridiculous. I would say about 80% of the girls (most early 20s, but in general between 20-30) I serviced last night gave me huge signs of interest. When I would go away they would stare at me across their tables and/or whisper and giggle if they were sitting close to their friend.

So I was thinking “Okay this cannot be happening. I must be imaging things..it cannot be that obvious/strong”. All of a sudden, I was in the back of the restaurant talking to my boss, and 2 girls from a table at the far front of the restaurant were now standing right behind me. They start asking me about different clubs in town, saying they’re new here, and if I can show them around. I end up getting BOTH of their numbers.

This effect kept on repeating itself the entire evening. Girls and only girls would leave their table, come looking for me, and say they didn’t want to wait to make an order while showing signs of interest (twirling their hair or gazing in a really daydreamy way into my eyes). My boss got so annoyed with that that he complained I was only chatting to girls the entire night and wasn’t doing my job. But then again he asked me if I’m going to go out with the first 2 girls at the end of my shift :smiley:.

From the social/respect side of things, my work colleagues were all super respectful + playful with me the entire night, and started telling me the most random shit about them like different drug experiences they’ve had or something completely irrelevant in their lives like “I have to see my son tomorrow. Have I told you that I have a son before?”. I also got tipped really well that night. I’m really impressed by P74’s bonding effect. It’s like people want to see who you are as a person instead of just judging what they see in front of them.

Till now, I still don’t get what happened. I’m going to wear the exact same mix again tonight and tell you if the effects are consistent. If anyone else these 3 pheros, please give this combo a try and tell me what happens. I’m interested to know if this was just a fluke, or if this is actually that successful of a combo.

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Just remembered I added 1.25 mcg P75 on my neck then wiped some off with my finger and rubbed under my nose for the self-effects. Edited in the first post above.

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314 + P74 attracts men. Lots of *men. And women.

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Sounds awesome!!!

YOU GOTTA TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM, and run it another night, and come back and report, Tree! :wink:

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Unfortunately, I was really late to work yesterday and didn’t have time to spray my mix the right way so I just didn’t. I learned from experience that mixes are very delicate and it’s easy to fuck the whole thing up with one spray too many. Needless to say, I had a crappy night last night haha. I made more tips on Friday in 4 hours than I did in 7 hours all of last night. Didn’t get any mentionable attention either.

I’ll give the mix a try again today, but there isn’t much going on on a Sunday here. It should still produce some results though. Lets see.

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This is an absolutely superb professional mix that has great carry-over into social/sexual use - that is effectively what your P75 is doing - but I find TUTH or other brutal None just as effective as there is already good moderation in the mix. Simply add the sexual when things are winding-down and minds turn to fun. :slight_smile:

Still, I suggest adding some ih to light this on up to its true potential but don’t blame me if after a few weeks you have your own not so little coterie of fawning fallouts - bith male and female.

I eventually gave-up on this at work - except for the most potentially fraught events because it was getting me way too much attention! :open_mouth: :smiley:

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Looking at the mix from under the M&M microscope, P75, should/could cut down the male advances at a BEST NEW FRIEND a little. Upping it to 5mcgs COULD cut it down even more, but then the younger chickies could back off a little, too. JUST A THOUGHT. :wink:

“GIVE THEM HELL, TREEHUGGER! YOU NAUGHTY BOY!”

To be continued …

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Haha…

I’m just figuring out the benefits of low doses of P75 in mixes. It’s like a little amount can stir a mix into a completely different direction. I’m going to try adding x2 IH today and cutting back on the P74 down to 10 mcg as I don’t think 20 mcg would be too much with IH in the equation?

I eventually want to add P83 into the mix but I think that would be too much for now. Need to get this combination right first.

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You need to be very careful with mixes involving A314 and P75 - Its a very, very fine line between P75 being beneficial and its adding a very significant oppressive/hectoring/arsehole-in chief feel that gets you nowhere with anyone. I’m guessing the P74 provides enough moderation/steering to keep the P75 sexy and masculine whilst keeping the negative effects in check. TBH, None is better here because it can moderate a substantial dose with ease. :slight_smile:

I’d say 15-20mcg P74 is about the right proportion for that mix - even with IH - the synergy of this combo is something to behold. Whilst you usually don’t want to go too high, personally its 30mcg or over before the serious “best friend” vibes start overwhelming it but in a professional mix, that actually can be useful. Where you want the trust/expert vibe to show through. I’ve used 30/40 mcg alongside 2-4 sprays IH in an A314 mix to great effect - Very great effect. :wink:

All you need to offset that after hours is a good whack of overt None - A bit more than you would normally use to take the friendly edge off the P74/IH - and a little P75 won’t go-wrong here either. :slight_smile:

Save the P83 for after work IMO - unless you work somewhere its ok to get very physical with your colleagues/customers. Otherwise its just wasted.

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I tried P83 the first day I got it with 30 mcg, Ammo (1 spray reg. strength), P74 (20 mcg), and A314a (1 spray). I was just passing by my workplace to say hello, and this waiteress who never pays any attention to me (thinks I’m too much of a ‘new guy’) and is usually zoned out in her own world said that I looked like a bouncer. I always just talk to her on work-related issues and usually just to ask about the software we use to take orders at work. I’m like “What do you mean? I’m not that big nor that tall, I’m just athletic!” And she said “No, you just have that bouncer vibe about you!”. I said playfully “Do you mean I look dumb or retarded?”, and she giggled and said “NO, bouncers don’t have to be dumb!” and she runs off back to work.

Later on that day, I was talking to the barkeeper at the bar and she came over to pick up an order, she pulls out her pen, and she starts doodling on my hand but she had the tip pulled back so no ink was actually getting there. I’m like “what are you doing?” and she almost looked like she snapped out of something and said “I usually write my name on guys’ hands so when they go back home they can see my name on there!”. I just get a WTF?! look on my face, but then her friend interrupts and asks her what she was doing. She gets a bit embarrassed and tries to backtrack and pass it off as a cute joke she does with people to annoy them.

I just found it really weird that she would go as far as to start doodling on my hand for no reason, when we aren’t even friendly. Our relationship thus far had been extremely formal. It’s also funny that she made up a whole story about how it’s a habit of hers when it’s really not because it doesn’t suit her work personality. I can’t imagine her doing that to customers at any given day. Was that P83 at play?

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Interesting - I’ve also had that “draw on me/I’ll draw on you” thing with A314/P74/P83+sexuals - Its usually a good hint that things are going to get very experimental with her later - In an “I’ve got all these fantasies and you are the guy I can really act them out with” way.

So yes, I’d reckon that was the P83 helping her drop her inhibitions around you nicely.

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Dammit…that would have helped if I were actually interested in her but I’m not :frowning:.

I didn’t get to try the mix today because my boss called me and said there isn’t much going on today at work and I can take the day off.

Instead I decided to try the self-effects of P74 as a stand-alone. I posted the results in my journal instead as it’s a bit irrelevant to this thread.

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So I gave this mix another shot last night but with 4 sprays IS instead of 2 sprays and added 2 sprays IH, so:

2 drops of A314 oil to both sides of the neck
4 sprays of IS behind each ear (reg. strength)
2 sprays of P74 on each bicep for a total of 20 mcg (10mcg/spray)
2 sprays IH (reg. strength) on wristsabout 2 hours in.
1/2 spray P75 on neck and under nose (1.25 mcg for self effects)

The results were very different. It’s like the mix was no longer sexual at all. I was still getting noticed A LOT by people, but it was more like a “this guys is really competent and trustworthy” vibe. I was feeling a lot more social around customers, and they seemed like they wanted to be my friend but no crazy sexual hits from young girls. The only table I had were someone was eying me in a sexual way was a group of 4 older overweight women (40s age range).

People with reservations would come up to me to ask about which table was theirs instead of going straight to my boss, even though he was the one with the name tag on and was standing near the entrance. My boss would come up to me and ask for advice about how to set up the tables for larger groups (he never does this as he’s always in the “I want to show you how” mode). My colleagues said I was looking more ‘serious’ today and would joke around me to make me happier. When people wanted to divide up a bill, they just trusted me with the calculations without double-checking the bill to see if I made any mistakes; they just gave me any amount I told them to give me.

All in all: Still a superior mix, but I think the sexual side of it gets screwed up with that much IS and IH. I’ll try it again today with perhaps more P75 and less IS and see how it goes.

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Tis WHY it is so very IMPORTANT, no matter what people say, to test to get the ANSWERS yourself. You can use other people’s mixes as a guideline, but there’s no guarantee for the SAME results. :roll_eyes:

Nice report. Nice findings. Nice mix. :wink:

Would love THE ORIGINAL REPEAT! You should run the original again to see if it pulls in the same kind of hits, or to find out IF your body chemistry is at play.

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Yup - That’s more or less exactly what I’d expect from that kind of mix in a work situation. To sexualise it further, I’d suggest adding some overt None.

I had a similar mix on last night - A314/IH/P74/IS - with one spray summer Ammo for scent.

It was a legal thing and from the beginning, when I was standing with our head lawyer, a very senior Scottish Advocate and the event organiser, it was noticeable how the arriving guests were all stopping to speak to me more than them!

Despite this being low on sexuals, I scored a major attraction hit on a thirtysomething guest from a local practice - I watched her more or less corkscrew away from the guy she was talking to - till she found the source of her interest and ended-up right in front of me, staring up into my eyes. She spent the rest of the night bumping into me in all corners of the hall.

And two other lesser hits - I was buttonholed by a rather drunk junior lawyer who just chattered rubbish for about twenty minutes and the new junior catering manager was exceptionally chatty and attentive - and she saw that I never had an empty glass all night.

She seemed quite disappointed when she caught me sneaking out the back door towards the end of the night! :smiley:

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Ok, so I’m going to go with the original mix tonight with one spray Ammo World. I’ll let you know how it goes.

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If you are wanting a more sexual edge, use TUTH rather than Ammo - that mix already has good moderation/balance so using an already balanced product won’t add much.

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2 drops of A314 oil to both sides of the neck
2 sprays of IS behind each ear (reg. strength)
2 sprays of P74 on each bicep for a total of 20 mcg (10mcg/spray)
1/2 spray P75 on neck and under nose (1.25 mcg for self effects)
2 sprays Ammo World (reg. strength) backside of neck

I gave the above mix a run yesterday. I read what you said about Ammo being balanced as it is, so I decided to add 2 sprays instead of 1 and had some unusual results. I think 2 sprays of Ammo ended up ruining the total balance of the mix because of too much -none and here’s why. As the night started, strangers only but not my colleagues appeared to be a bit stand-offish. I would go up to customers and the women almost seemed to be annoyed by my presence, like they couldn’t wait till I took their order and leave them alone. Usually, I get eye contact from all of my guests, but some of the women who had their chairs turned back to me didn’t even bother to look behind them as to make eye contact with me. They just gave their order to a friend or mumbled it to me without looking directly at me. Men, on the other hand, seemed to be giving me the usual respect vibe although not as strong as with my previous mixes.

As the night progressed, the female customers started getting more and more comfortable with me. 3 hours in, they were all smiles around me maintaining eye contact at all times, but no DIHL looks or obvious flirting like what I got using the original mix. Again, I did get flirting from older women. One asked me to “defend her honor” because her friend called her old -.-. What’s really surprising is that even though some customers were being a tad disrespectful at the beginning of the night (not making any eye contact while giving me their order or just appearing to be pissed off), I made REALLY good tips off all of my customers last night. Not just a slight noticeable difference, but the most I’ve made EVER; around 120% more than what I usually make every time I’m there.

I really cannot explain what happened as it all seems very unusual to me. Why would I get such mixed responses from the same people? I understand that stand-offish behavior probably came from using too much -none for A314 and P75, but why would it get better and turn ‘social/respectful/trustworthy’ good rather than ‘sexual’ good.

Before you yell at me M&M, I will give the original combo a try next time. I promise! :smiley: I just wanted to experiment a bit to see if it can be made even better.

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Ha! Moi!?!?! Nawh! No yelling from me, Mister. I dare not tell you how to wear YOUR mones. Just curious as all HELL if it was a fluke. Through the years, I’ve read across TOO MANY nice hits that never repeated. I know some were setups, but I hope all of them were not.

I’ll be watching you! :wink:

To be continued …

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I try not to let my excitement control my reporting as much as possible, but with the first try it was seriously that good. I need to try it for myself again, because it’s true that sometimes it’s a hit or miss.