Amounts: A314: 2 drops
P90: 2 very small sprays guessing high but ~ 8-11.4 mcgs
Self Effects: I have the A314 effects, normal. I have reported on it many times. I have mixed up an oil based version of just P90 to apply along with it. I do not have a good dropper system set up. If anyone has any good tips on how to get A314 style bottle tops, please share! Otherwise I will be in contact with Androtics about it soon. I have tested A314 and P90 before. Also A314, P90 and TAF. I have a small thread where I posted some results. If you are that interested you can search I guess Anyways, I have moved along to the next phase in my testing, so I wanted to post an updated report with results from oil. The diffusion package for the P90 would be 3% Neroli fragrance and a 50% DPG/Pheromone base. I will eventually work on that, down the road, when I get pheromone content to acceptable level. With the P90 oil, initially there was a strong OD, so I thought. That wore off in just a few moments. Effects from P90 on myself: I felt more outgoing towards others around me. I had jokes, good conversation.
Effects On Others: This is where the P90 shined. Effects on others, I give it a big It seemed my personal power of A314 was magnified, but not in an aNone, rude, in your face I am in charge IJ way. It was more subtle subconscious effect. As soon as I walked in to work and came close to where I sit, a new woman, black, 23, chunky, stood up and proclaimed to everyone I was at work. Like I was a King. Surprising, as I have only spoken to her a total of MAYBE 2-3 times. Not even a full conversation. Awesome hit. This week at work we are able to set our schedules as we like. I work in the evening, everyone else leaves soon after I get to work today. Bummer. I approached a woman I talk to quite a bit, but have not talked to her much recently since she has been moved. I neg her with jokes about her being the stepchild of our group as she pretty much sits by herself. We chat for a few, I go back to my desk. She immediately comes over to my desk and tells me what she thinks is her “secret” weapon to being successful at her job. She does very well here as do I. Crazy that she wants to just tell me this information. She not only tells me what she says, but how to position it in a conversation. Not my style of communication, however I may be able to modify it to work for me. Good hit there Overall the effect was that of being a leader. More so that when you just wear A314. I am very excited about this mix. Like I said before, everyone left work after 1 hour of me being there. Sucky, but there will be more testing to come.
Range: Longest hit was about 5 feet away. Indoors. 72 degrees.
Yeah. I had to make it. You can do the same thing with the spray, I would start with ~3 mcg per spray per drop of A314. So for 2 drops 6 mcg. I need a more accurate way to dose the P90. Like an empty A314 bottle Then I will get better results. I have it dosed to get 2.85 mcg, but hard to get A314 sized drop.
In my other thread I think I used up to 30 mcg of P90 in spray form. I also used TAF in the combo. Eventually I will look at adding it to this if it is needed.
Self Effects: Same A314 effects as usual. P90 lesser amount today, to test effects of lower dose. Self effects really just not there. Blended in with A314.
Effects on others: When I awoke this morning, my wonderful wife pressured me into going to Starbucks. I am not a Starbucks guy. I do not drink coffee. I do like Chai tea, but not enough to get it from Starbucks. Anyways I went there for my wife. It is the second time I have been into one. I was way out of my element. I was nervous and instead of playing on my ignorance of “Starbucks speak” to build rapport, I tried to act like I knew what I was doing Yeah, so fail there! I came off like a moron. After I placed my order, the barista kept looking at me like she expected more from me. I was not in the mood to build rapport at that point. She kept trying to talk though.
So I went to work today after the fail, with a chai tea buzz and felt better. The A314/P90 combo did its magic. Upon sitting down, I after about 30 seconds I had 2 people walk over to my desk to wish me a good day. After about 5 min, I had a woman apologize because she did not greet me when I first got to work.
After making some small talk with my neighbor, I made a joke, he laughed and made sure he shared it with others, giving me credit for it.
I did notice a new hire, cute, probably 25, staring at me. Both yesterday and today. Like she is expecting me to talk to her. Maybe I should strike up a conversation. She seems like she must be affected by pheros. A good new test subject.
Range: 5-10 feet
After 2 days of testing the oil based P90, it really seems that P90 adds an almost unsubtle edge to the A314. It really affects others around the wearer in a subconscious way, imparting a very high value vibe, that meshes perfectly with A314.
Yes, yes, I know, it’s a few months old, but I was just assigned a P90 project, and this post came up in my research. Holy mizzou, some of your hits independently match up with some of our hits. Have you been peeking at my execunotebooks, Andrew??
This might have been answered in a post88777 somewhere, but I’m going to ask it right here… Why did you make a P90 oil, and what oil carrier did you use? (DPG, Mineral oil, etc, what-ever?). I think the real question I’m trying to ask is, what is the function you’re after [by dropping your p90 in oil]? Longetivity? Are you in a humid area? Hampered diffusiveness? Do you just think it mixes better with the oil-based A314? I’m curious curious curious.
Oh, and fyi, if you ever want Androtics supplies that you don’t see in the store, just ask and I can add 'em in for you. Empty 10mL cobalts/eurodroppers are no sweat off our back to provide for you if you REALLY REALLY want them. And if you want us to mix something up for you, just tickle me and I’ll letcha know.
Ahhh Yes P90 oil. I sneaky wondrous stuff right there!
I had to laugh when I saw this. Are my hits normally that far off from yours, that this surprises you? LOL JK
I would hope that they match. I hope my pheros do the same as yours! I could only wish to have a peek at your execunotebook! I might throw my morals and ethics down the tube and learn all of your secrets!
I stopped reporting on this or oil based products in general due to a lack of any real feedback or interest on the forum. Not a big deal, but I did not want to waste my time reporting to myself. I guess I do not have the flash or sizzle to my posts! Need to take some lessons from Steve!
As far as creation, I used only Androtics products. DPG. It seems to work the best, and is what most companies seem to use for an oil based product. Research. This was the beginning of a project. This was a test to convert alcohol pheromones to an oil base. It also was to see if I could create a P90 A314 as effective as you guys can. Unfortunately, I was never able to test it against your version so I could not measure the results.
The next step was to nail down the diffusion rate so that I could adjust it match A314’s. I like to make 1 application every six hours or so. With the sprays they last around 4 hours. So after 4 hours you have to reapply the spray, then 2 hours later more A314. And so on. Not convenient for me.
It eventually evolved into the idea of creating add-ons for A314. I have made 3 oil add-ons, all of them very simple. Ones that I use, that enhance communication. The P90, P97 and IO. These are important to me, because I communicate to make my money. They work really well. I think that A314 add-ons would be an awesome idea for you guys to develop BTW! I have other ideas but I am stressed for time lately so pheromone development had/has to take a backseat for a little bit. 2 more months to be exact. Then it will be on again. I have phero-ADHD. I have tons of projects. I jump from project to project. That way I never get bored. Then when I come back to a project, I have more knowledge or better ideas. It works well for me at least.
And yes I would love to get some empty 10 mL bottles. That would really make it so much easier to work with oils and getting a consistent sized drop.
Keep reporting on your oil based products. I’ve been reading them. It is nice to see someone else having success with oil composites. I’m looking forward to receiving my P93 so I can make my batch of ICM 1b oil in Akuto scent.
The regular dropper tops and roller bottles are less than ideal for consistent dosing.
LOL I know you are interested
I think it is something newer users are not interested in. Oil mixes are way more costly upfront. Its not something you can do unless you want to spend a good amount of dough, as well as invest a lot of time into testing.
Yes P93. I got that recently and will be testing that out too
Man, I look up to you and Snoopy. An oil composite is something that I’d like to create as well, but man it makes my head hurt.
Kudos to you andrew, as well as Snoopy for being awesome at creating oil composites that work for you both. I had fun with Snoopy’s oil my self. Just waiting for the heat to come out to wear it more often as it has been pretty chilly down here.
I use my pheromones at work, so heat really is of no consequence for me And yes Snoopys oil is tha shiznit! I brewed up his ICM B with the extra P83 myself just to make sure it does not run out LOL 15 mLs of it in fact. I love that mix! When I want to go into creativity mode it works wonders!
I would imagine alcohol would, since it has a lower evaporating temperature than water, I’d think in very hot places they’d hit hard but have little staying power, whereas an oil based product will be absorbed by the skin instead of evaporating off of it, it will get released pretty much only when your body temp goes up and your pores open to perspire.
Aw, thanks man. You blow me out of the water though, I still haven’t tried oil mixing! He, he. I did try making an alcohol composite of my “Instant Big Balls A’ Plenty” mix but I found out that it’ll be WAY easier to use exact dosing instead of sprays. Sprays can misfire different amount of sprays as I’m sure you know.
So did you ever have any luck with that dialed dosing syringe you and Xiphoid were talking about andrew? Pipettes wouldn’t cut it after all ha, ha. You were right!
LOL yes I got one. It is awesome for phero dosing. I can make small mixes no problem. Then I do not have lots of wasted phero mixes laying around. If you want to mix I think it is a good way to go. It costs some upfront, but it pays for itself when you do not have to buy all the extra pheromones. (Sorry AD :o) I am suprised you remember that LOL
Oh, of course I remember. I remember everything cool pheromone buds say on here, well almost everything.
How do you do it to avoid cross contamination though? If I remember when I clicked on one of those syringes they looked like they would be hard to clean. Think you can link me to the one you got? I’m really considering getting one now!
Anyways, I have moved along to the next phase in my testing, so I wanted to post an updated report with results from oil. The diffusion package for the P90 would be 3% Neroli fragrance and a 50% DPG/Pheromone base. I will eventually work on that, down the road, when I get pheromone content to acceptable level. With the P90 oil, initially there was a strong OD, so I thought. That wore off in just a few moments. Effects from P90 on myself: I felt more outgoing towards others around me. I had jokes, good conversation.
