ICM 0.25.1a Oil...

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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Product name,scent and strength
ICM 1a oil ~7x alcohol based strength
Cool Spring from Valerie’s Uncommon Scents (oil based cologne)

Application dosage and locations
~1 inch to each side of the neck
~1 inch to the top of each hand
(Both phero oil and cover cologne rolled next to each other and then spread out)

Enviroment tested in.
Various stores
Fast food restaurant

Self effects.
:open_mouth: (For about the first 2 minutes)
After the OMG factor, I felt very strong, and masculine like I just needed to swagger. I also felt a bit more positive (not that I was in any bad mood to begin with.) Had an irrepressible urge to smile. :smiley:

Effects to others
Every time I wear this, it makes me a bit unnerved by how much attention I get from younger women. I also get attention from women my age and older but the youngins’ really seem to respond to this. Case in point…

I was in line at a fast food restaurant today and I noticed a lot of eye contact from both males and females but what really struck me was the girl taking my order behind the counter. It was the middle of the day so I assume she was 18+ but once my phero cloud hit her she inhaled, exhaled and smiled. And stared. Sort of a variation on a DIHL. I started to order and after I was almost finished it was like she shook herself out of it. Asked again for my order and seemed genuinely flustered and started blushing and apologizing. Later, when I was just about done eating, I noticed her cleaning tables and lingering across from me while watching me out of the corner of her eye. I waved while grinning at her and her hand slid off the table she was wiping down. She looked at me and grinned and started a conversation with me until her boss came out and she quickly moved on to other tables.

At the grocery store I kept seeing women walk by me and suddenly become very interested in whatever I was looking at. Standing much too close and trying to initiate conversations. Okay, I’ll chat. :roll_eyes: Now this happened 5 times at 3 different stores. If I am phero free, this happens 0 times at every store. Not coincidental in my book.

Just an all around air of being George Clooney all day long. Now I remember why I like this one. I can stand around and look cool and women just gravitate towards me. I can’t wait to try this on date night.

Duration of effects.
At least 5 hours

Effects from mixing with other products.
The Cool Spring Scent seems to really diffuse VERY well and aided the range of the pheros.

Range
No more than about 8-10’

Time exposure.
Immediate exposure seemed to yield immediate effects (I believe the scent helped)

Thanks again to Steve for putting these formula’s out there! P83 was out of stock so I decided to make another oil based 1a oil at 7 times original concentration (instead of the 1b I’d hoped to make). I’d gotten the ingredients in 6% Neroli scent so that it would composite out and be easy to cover. I let the composite sit a week and decided to give it a test run today while out and about. It is in a 10ml roll on bottle.

In the interests of making an even amount (and a lot because I love thes mixes) I used nbully’s calculator (thanks for that) to come up with ~30ml of alcohol phero composite. Then I combined that with ~30ml of DPG with plant musks in 2 separate 30ml bottles and would shake them up once a day just to make sure everything got mixed up well. Seems to work just fine! :slight_smile:

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First off, great job Snoop! I always get a kick out of reading your ICM mixes ( I still have the last one you gave me) but I do have a question: how are you NOT od’ing on -none?

With 7x concentration even in oil I’d expect somekind of OD.

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Actually, I’ve made a composite that I haven’t posted here about (because it contained copulins) that was 40 mcg androstenone and copulins in an oil base. It works GREAT for the bars/clubs. (I also only need 2 drops of it). :open_mouth:

In this mix, the androstenone is VERY well balanced and buffered by the other pheros. I haven’t had any problems with OD from the alcohol sprays either (at 3-4 sprays). Steve really came up with something special with these mixes. This one is very much an attraction/status/sex mix. :cool:

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Is this basically an oil version of MX301/2? cause that sounds downright dangerous. It might actually be my favorite product made by androtics, putting it in oil just sounds incredible.

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nice! we’re having similar results in that the cloud hits a target and then suddenly the behavior changes. in your case, the 1a is an attraction/sexual change, and the 1b i’m using is a social/light flirty change.

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Yup, if I remember correctly the one I just made (ICM 0.25.1a) relates to MX301. I LOVE this stuff! :slight_smile: The oil base just works better for me. I get the same hits (if not better) and it lasts and lasts on me. The alcohol sprays only seem to last 3 hours or so on me under ideal conditions.

The original alcohol based version of this also worked really, really well for me! ICM 0.25.1a = Teenage attention getter?!!! (Amazing how much I’ve learned since I originally posted this)

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Oh yeah, you are definitely getting the same results from 1b that I do. I still believe that product is underrated. Fantastic social lubricant. :cool:

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In what concentration did you get the ingredients then? Must have been very high concentrated (and pretty expensive :wink:)

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Oh yeah, it isn’t cheap. At the ratios below (that is what I buy each at to get the 7x original concentration- the numbers below aren’t the mcg per phero in the finished product) it works out to 4.2 ml for each phero so I just throw the whole 5ml bottle in of each one to get to 30ml of composite. Then I combine it 1:1 with DPG oil (with plant musks) to get a full 60 ml of oil to last me a while (except I love it so much I give a lot away for others to have fun with- done doing that- It gets too expensive). :slight_smile:

TAA- 50 mcg
Beta-nol- 62.5 mcg
P74- 62.5 mcg
P93- 37.5 mcg
A-none 62.5 mcg
TAC- 62.5

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Errr… but if I’m not mistaken with these concentrations you won’t ever get a 7x concentration of the original formula. You’ll max. get something like a 2x, but BEFORE you mix it with the DPG. The original is like 27 mcg/spray, with the ingredients below you’ll get around 55 mcg/spray max. :wink:

EDIT: To be exact you’ll get a 56.3 mcg/spray phero in alcohol. Add the same amount of DPG, and you’ll end with almost the exact amount per ml/spray/whatever as the original… :wink:

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It starts out at 7x concentration in a spray per ingredient. After I add the DPG oil it is actually 3.5x the original spray concentration. Below are the amounts per spray in mcg per ingredient before I combine them with the DPG oil.

TAA 28 mcg
Betanol 35 mcg
P74 35 mcg
P93 21 mcg
A-none 35 mcg
TAC 35 mcg

All I can tell you is that this works for me. Well. :slight_smile:

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Nope, it isn’t. :wink: See, take a very simple mix - Androstenone and Androstenol, both bought at 50 mcg/spray. You mix them 1:1, say only 1 spray ANone and 1 spray ANol. You get two sprays with overall 100 mcg. But it’s still 50 mcg per spray (you applied two sprays, right). The overall concentration can never be higher than the average concentration of the single ingredients.

In your example above you have 189 mcg/spray, so your ingredients would need to have at least also 189 mcg/spray… :wink:

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Right way or wrong way what I do is multiply the original ingredient strengths by 7 and plug each one into nbully’s calculator. What I get for results is what I use. It works for me. That is really all that concerns me. It works.

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Of course, I just wanted to clarify that it’s not 7x but actually more like 1x. :wink: And I’m pretty happy that it is - this way I’d really love to try this for myself sometime… :slight_smile:

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I see it also but the oil mix must be much weaker with the same (alcohol) concentration.

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That’s what I’ve said before. Unless you can concentrate the solute, the amount per whatever always stays the same. So either get rid of the solvent w/o removing the solute in the process or add more solute directly.

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Product name,scent and strength
ICM 1a oil roll on

Application dosage and locations
~3 inch to each side of the neck
~2 inch to the front of neck
~2 inch back of neck

Enviroment tested in.
Car
Restaurant
My apartment

Self effects.
Felt like a playboy :slight_smile:

Effects to others

So wore this stuff on a date. Picked her up in my car (great place to test!). Her her right away - the touching started in the car. Her hand on my arm then my hand on her leg. Hand on hair…ohhh yeaa.

Bring her out to dinner - nice Italian restaurant. The conversation was flowing and lots of joking. Was surrounded my tables of girls and “felt” lots of looks at me. The waitress was quite flirtatious with me too - even though I was with a date!

Bring her back to my place. I won’t get too much into details (you never know who might read this)…BUT damn - fucking attacked by the girl in the best possible of ways. I think this girl is quite experienced and it certainly showed – AND I like that a lot. It just made fucking fun. She seduced me. After, we had lots of sweet intimate and some jokingly like conversations. It was sweet. :slight_smile:

Duration of effects.
5 hours

Range
No more than about 5-10’

**Conclusion

This oil is the shit. In my opinion, oil is a almost requirement for the 1 on 1 dates. Why? Because dates tend to be more than 2-3 hours peak of most sprays. I don’t want my mones just wearing down after 3 hours when it’s prime to bring her back to my place. I don’t want to worry about reapplication either in the middle a date.

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Hooray! :stuck_out_tongue:

Thanks for the report. THIS is why I’ve been pursuing the oils so much. You made my point for me in a much more concise way than I ever could. I do a lot of one-on-one interactions (primarily with the opposite sex) and the oils flat out work better for me. Thanks again! :slight_smile:

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Snoop how much do you want for the goods? Your ICM 1b is still working well and I’d like to try this new for comparison.:stuck_out_tongue:

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I have to be up front and say that if I wasn’t there, I wouldn’t believe my own report. I wrote what I experienced and I’ll likely leave a few things out.

Product name,scent and strength
ICM 1a oil combined with Original Vetiver (7.5 ml 1a and 2.5 ml OV in a 10 ml roll top bottle)

Application dosage and locations
~4 inches to each side of the neck
~8 inches to the top of each hand (2 stripes ~4" long on top of each hand and spread around using the top of the other hand)

Enviroment tested in.
Grocery store
Fast food restaurant

Self effects.
:open_mouth: (For about the first 20 minutes- for the first 10 minutes I’d thought about washing this off)
After the OMG factor, I felt very strong, and masculine like I just needed to swagger. I also felt a bit more positive (not that I was in any bad mood to begin with.) Had an irrepressible urge to smile. :smiley:

Effects to others
Wow. Let me try and list the most over the top ones…

Cougar and her 18 year old daughter (she told me her age without me asking) BOTH followed me around the store. Mom ended up giving me her number after numerous conversations throughout the shopping trip. Both walked by me in the bakery area and both heads turned in unison like two very cute owls. Next thing I know they are both trying to talk to me and being very giggly (I saw a lot of that today). Mom eventually decides that I’m not going to ask her out so she takes my phone from its holder and calls hers to give me her number.

A woman with a toddler (I’m guessing around 30 y/o- the woman not the toddler) spent forever lingering by me and started talking with me about soup (maybe to/at me is more appropriate). I got a lot of arm touches from her as well. I couldn’t believe when she boobed me while reaching for something instead of asking me to move. Very giggly.

A very tall (but worth the climb) woman (26 and single- again, she told me) with tats on her arm followed me from the dairy section to the pet supplies when she grudgingly left me to get cat food (sorry, I’m a dog person) whipped out a business card and put her cell number the back of it just in case I’d like to meet for coffee sometime and talk. (If I didn’t have a girlfriend who is a total keeper- beautiful, sweet, funny, intelligent, etc.)

More single moms and single women than I could believe gave me attention. Any woman who’d get within ~8’ of me were pulled into my gravity. I also got a DIHL from an (openly) homosexual cashier at a fast food restaurant. His reaction was probably the funniest of the day. DIHL followed by a smile, followed by the biggest ‘HELLO’ I’ve heard from anyone inside in a long time. (Sorry buddy, I’m taken).

Duration of effects.
At least 4 hours (appears to still be going strong just by the scent)

Effects from mixing with other products.
The Original Vetiver really seems to aid diffusion of the composite. And it smells great! :slight_smile:

Range
No more than about 8-10’

Time exposure.
Immediate exposure seemed to yield immediate effects (I believe the scent helped) but the more someone was in my phero cloud the more impact it was having.

Thanks again to Steve for putting these formula’s out there! :slight_smile:

The most bizarre thing about today was that I was taking an older relative shopping and decided to just throw on a ton of the ICM 1a and see if people ran away. If anything I’d been too conservative in the past (I think giants52000 had on about the right amount in his report) because the results today were amazing. I think a lot of what helped me was actually the environment I was in. People are just going about their days with their guard down and when something like my phero cloud comes along it hits that much harder.

The person I was shopping with was right there (10’ away at most) to see me be Don Juan and thought it was pretty funny to watch. She knows about my phero use but I’ve told her they were just aromatherapy products to help me improve and feel better (true), and also help the people around me. I know her mood improved considerably after being in my phero cloud in the car and it only took about 30 seconds.

After going to lunch and shopping and feeling like I had everybody looking at me it kind of got tiresome. I have to say that there is such a thing as too much attention. By the time we left the grocery store I was feeling self conscious because of the attention. Not just glancing over to see 3 women 5’ away stare as you went by like they were in a trance. :open_mouth: People talking and TALKING at me sooooo much! I did like that a lot of attractive women were standing entirely too close for daytime while they’d talk. They would edge closer to me. Don’t wear this if you don’t want to be the center of attention.