AA314 and adding more Rone?

I am currently using AA314 and AlterEgo/men, which contains .020% Anone, .015% Anol, and .010% Arone. Will the extra Arone hurt the effects of AA314 in anyway? I am getting very good results combining these two products and I seem to still be getting all the descriptions for the AA314 product listed to occur still when combined. I am currently using 2 drops AA314, 2 drops AE/m, and 2 drops APC for cover scent. Hope that mentioning other products is ok as long as it includes atleast one of your own on this forum as I am new to it.

Thanks for bringing that up.

I’ll go over these issues publicly at least once, so the forum will be more automatic as it progresses… (I won’t always have time to participate here later on)

Sure, I’d prefer you mention our products (especially when we put our normal line out). If you can’t do that, I’d prefer stuff I personally like from other manufacturers, but hey…

that’s just me!

Regardless of me, you have your preferences, too. :slight_smile: (for me, AE never did anything noticable; which isn’t to say it isn’t “real” or any crazy accusation like that, just that it was a mismatch for me)

I think that’s fine. Everyone has things they like. I’m not too big into censoring others or ruling over people like a tyrannical despot. It takes a lot of time I could put into anything else. If you want to go ahead and “post in a respectful way” you can do that, and I’ll likely appreciate it, but certainly post what you need to get the help you want or need.

Ultimately, I think only massive abusers will be “come down on” here. Excessive and obvious promotion, especially of what I’d deem to be “bad” product or a not a good company, will raise my eyesbrows, sure… but as a legitimate user of another brand, I don’t see a big issue.

To be honest, if anything gets me, it’s all the funky names on the forum instead of real looking names (see my real name thread). It makes it hard for me to respond until I know about someone, but I suppose it’s kind of my issue, and I’ll just have to adjust to that.

While I have some defnite preferences about this and other things, it doesn’t mean I want to impose them on others.

When you’re dealing with pheromones, I guess a lot of people are really into privacy to a shocking, almost unnatural extent. Far more so at a forum like this than other internet forums.

I think that’s too bad. I hope that’ll change a bit someday, and this really great technology will become more “acceptable”. It’s not like we’re talking about bombs, or how to make heroine in your bathtub! There’s nothing to be ashamed of.

In fact, a world that’s more -nol’d out is a happier world. :slight_smile: It’s true.

And, hey, all pheromones do is actually help deliver on what colognes and perfumes have promised for years. It’s ultimately no big deal, even if the occasional person overracts. Most of the people who overreact, would’ve gone nutso over anything, not just pheromones. They’re professional overreactors.

Wow. That tangeant was longer than I wanted… sorry! I’m not “made for forums”.

RONE and A314: A314 gone through almost 3 years of revisions, and has an intricate web of what I call “error correction”. It fixes a lot of other products when you apply, because I went a little gungho in response to user feedback.

Negative comments always sent me back to the drawing board, that’s why. It’s IMPOSSIBLE to make a perfect pheromone product, but darn, I had to give it a go, right? :slight_smile: (of course, A314 is a perfect mismatch for some people, too, you just can’t avoid that - there is no “one size fits all”)

I think the combo will be fine, if it works for you. Try it alone, too.

A314 is very modular. It was actually originally designed to play nice with other brands (I liked other brands better then than I do now, knowing what I know :wink:). It still does.

I think good combos will include ANOL and NONE. Also TAA.

Heck, almost anything. It’s really a great heart or primer to base your experiments on.

It doesn’t quite have the sexual oomph many users want when used alone (more of a sexy or love effect), but it really does wonder for our users who need can use extra trust and respect.

For salespeople, for instance, A314 is just like selling them money at a discount. They can’t get enough of it. (I suspect some drink it, because salespeople have unusually high re-order patterns :open_mouth: haha)

I appreciate your question. In fact, ask me another so I can attempt to be normal and give you a 1 to 20 line answer.

I think it’s true also that AA314 can really get the “healthy” higher status women attached to you…isn’t this true also besides the obvious trust and leadership effects of AA314? I’ve personally witnessed first hand the effects of how it makes you appear like a leader to other men and they follow your wishes and orders almost like a puppy dog at times. Back to my question…on attachment/bonding capabillities of AA314 with women of higher status. This interests me a lot.

As far as combining products with AA314 I’m looking at add more ofa sexual and attention grabing side to AA314 with a little more Anone and Anol that AE has..Do you think there might be a better way to increase this with another product or combo?

Thanks for your questions.

Yes, it definitely provides a bump in status, along with everything that means, including access to higher end people.

That much is obvious to me. I always get treated like I’m dress to the nines wearing A314, even if I’m in a tshirt. I love that effect.

The “downside”, if you want to call it that, is a seeming an exclusion from lower end people. I’ve noticed a little of that. “Bad” folks seem to intrinsically avoid you.

I don’t know how far it’ll go. I imagine this could work against some people in certain scenarios. For instance, I’m wondering what it’s effects would be for an undercover detective.

We have a little military usage, but not many police/detectives. I’m curious about that because the job of an good undercover detective is to essentially infilitrate a “hive” of not so good people. It’d be a heck of a test!

If you know any detectives like that, let me know, and I’ll get it into their hands. It’s something I’ve been curious about for awhile.

Really?

Well, great! You’ll love it for that.

As we say, it’s much better to get along with a Jessica Alba type than a Courtney Love type.

If there’s anything “downside” to this, it’s that women tend to be more LTR (long term relationship) oriented with A314, not ONS (one night stand), unless they’re very young and flitty.

Most women who are young and green have their genes themselves telling them to dive in with various men, and then get out… to “sew their seeds”, and experience “variety”. Prerequisite variety is a cornerstone of nature, and of life.

Most really health women, who are out of their “sewing their wild oats” phase want a relationship someday… not a mere fling.

Even Jessica Alba is out of that phase, despite being young. She’s well known to be seeking a long term relationship. All of her words to the media are basically saying “I want an A314 man”. It just hits me over the head how overt these things can be, when you really latch on and notice.

Now, if a girl like that gets involved in a fling, it’s part of a means to an ends.

The best way to get a quality girl into a one day, “burn 'em out and throw 'em away fling” is to chart her ovulatory cycles, and go heavy on the -none that that special day mid-cycle!

Otherwise, not so fast, bucko.

Also, not so easy. Being an ovulation spy is no small task. (at least they have little ovulation microscopes available at Target for $20 – yes, seriously!!)

It’s actually far easier to use this particular product to help get really high quality women for “dating” (mini-relationships) or actual bonding (full blown relationships).

Yep, if you want this in terms of product, try: Turn Up the Heat/Instant Heat, Instant Shine, and Female Magic. You could also try Ammunition for Him, if you want something with a good cologne in it.

All will turn A314 more sexual, and more attention grabbing. Also, they’re highly diffusive, whereas A314 is not. A314 is more like a rock, a solid foundation that sets in hard and fades away slowly.

Remember, -none alone is like walking around with your penis out. Sexual, but not sexy.

A314 is more sexy, and not too sexual. It’s more of a classic man effect.

Somewhere in between is probably what you want, and by keeping these effects in different bottles, you can work with your own chemistry, and design that. There’s nothing better than working out your own mix - “one size fits all” pheromone products are just abotu as attractive as “one size fits all” clothing… works for some peopel, but it’s like shooting fish in a battle.

Dosed, modular “Smart Pheromones” are really the way to go for that.

I think it may be that being around successful men or people reminds them of their failures in life…it exposes their problems and pains of the past and present.

I do know beautiful women that come from a hard background that like AA314 kind of men..wonder how it effects them..I guess it works just fine since thats what they are looking for.

Can you tell me whats in these products? I know turn up the heat is 5mcg Androstenone per spray..don’t know anything about the others..the store isn’t updated with these products.

That’s a good point. That is certainly true on a conscious level. There’s a lot of reactive envy.

I’m not sure you get much of an “envy” effect with A314, though. People seem to submit and like it. It’s very odd. It’s unlike anything I’ve experienced before without pheromones.

Instant Heat is mostly dosed -none. Gives you thermostat like control.

Shine is new, mostly TAA (with little modifications, I love “hotwiring” things).

Instant Female Magic is the only name I could think of for something that’s mostly, well, you’ll know when I describe it.

I may drastically change the Female Magic based formula in the future. I want to do the same for it’s primary pheromone, that I did for A314 - debug it, to remove it’s downsides.

So you can know what the pheromone is without question, it’s kind of like a dual edge sword… comforting and simultaneously arousing women (the comfort PLUS arousal effect is why it’s “magic” to me - it can literally be a lifesaver in sticky relationship situations!). All while you, as a man, suffer a little. Ouch!

It’s bizarre how you can sit there, in a reticent little bubble, while women seem to be fawning over you, happy as clams.

Makes me wonder why nature designed a pheromone like this. It seems cruel. It fits the definition of “altruism” almost perfectly – better than anything else does (pheromone or not), that’s for sure!

I have a BONE to pick with Mother Nature about this. Grrrr! :wink:

I’ve also considered calling somethng based on this pheromone the “Relationship Extender” because it helps to put the “Monthly Relationship Destroyer” at bay. It really can extend a relationship, or even save a marriage. (A314 saved at least one prominent marriage that I know of, too - another unexpected positive effect)

Appropriate naming is very important to me right now. I feel that using somewhat appropriate/accurate names for mones will help dramatically when mixing. It sure does for me. I have little nicknames for pheromones that help a lot.

man..whats in “Instant Female Magic” sounds like something I could use…if you can’t tell me whats in it..would it work well/play nice with my current combo of AA314 and AE?

P.S…I remeber u saying that you like to know people better…my name is Hadley Sanford

You can actually tell the bulk of what’s of IFM Mix 1 from the description.

There’s an issue that goes beyond trade secrets why I shouldn’t mention what’s in it. I can’t scent it for the same reason.

Future mixes should be a lot better… I really got to work it to make it viable as a stand-alone. As an ADD-ON, it’s incredible. Even alone, it’s pretty great, albeit with some unwanted side effects for men.

And, YES! It’ll work GREAT with AA314 and AE! Any mix you currently have will benefit from it, yes.

I’d say that “Shine” is the same way. You could throw it into that mix to intensify it.

Everything I’m desiging is designed to work great together, and to pretty much deliver what the name suggests. They’re simple mixes. They’ll evolve with time with time and be debugged, but I intend to keep 'em pretty simple. (then again, to me, A314 is even “pretty simple”, even though it’s probably the most “complex” mix on the market)

Not all names are that “good” from a marketing standpoint, but not all pheromones are all that amazing alone, either.

I’m riding the honesty angle pretty hard, and even taking a little flack for it.

I’m just delivering something modular and dosed. Just dosing itself moves phermone technology ahead by leaps and bounds. Planned modularity is good, too. It’s not easy enough to combine some products, yet combos are essential to make a mix that’s “you”.

And pheromone technology, after all, is about you. Not the manufacturer. We’re just the middle man between what you want and what you actually get from life.

I’m trying hard to design this stuff like I wanted products to be designed when I was in your seat, a passionate pheromone hobbiest merciless to the manufacturers whims.

Can you tell me how much it costs and when I can get some of this stuff? could you e-mail a description of whats in it to keep it off the forums…i’ll keep it a secret and only mention what it does to some peeps over at love-scent so maybe they’ll get some too.:confused:

P.S. will it be good for attracting women your trying to get or dating as well? rather than just for relationships.

P.S.S. I’m so sorry I keep asking all these questions..I know you put so much effort into every post and the end user.

For legal reasons, I won’t say. Nobody will, especially written.

This is a secret that’s hidden out in the open, though. You’re not guessing it, but many will. I’d rather nobody talk about it in the open, due to the issues involved. That’s something I would have to censor.

It’s a common, but expensive, pheromone.

It has issues, many of which are ameliorated when used in a good mix.

I’ll be fixing those issues over time, so it’ll be possible to use it alone w/o unacceptable effects.

In a couple years, you’ll basically have 20 A314 like pheromone products (all with different effects), all carefully smoothed out and debugged.

Modular, dosed, and easy to use. As harmless as possible when used alone, and like a thirty ton atom bomb when used in combination.

You’ll be able to get it at our new store, opening soon.

It will be NFR (Non For Resale) at first, because it’s too expensive to make. I want to introduce most new products at $30-$50, with only the oils being more expensive (because they’ll have much more content, and can last for a year or more). Good price points will make some things NFR by default.

Speaking of resellers…

We were about to take on thtree new resellers recently, even though we’ve had tremendous trouble with them in the past (not LS, I mostly love LS; I think they truly serve the community).

All of a sudden, they’re playing hard to get, so I’m about to wash my hands of them yet again. I’ve “fired” many of our clients before, as I just don’t need the trouble.

Aside from Raw Power and Ammunition, and A314 at LS, I’m not sure how much of our future product you’ll see resold.

We have very specific standards. Like not carrying anything illegal on your store, for one. Not intentionally lying for another (which also means correcting your errors when informed). Answering the phone is good, too! I will not accept anyone who hasn’t proven superior customer service. I refuse to supply a bad store again.

For whatever reason, presenting conditions like this is where it seems communication breaks down with them. They’re uncomfortable with these simple requirements.

I put myself out on a limb by allowing them to offer next generation technology, and they can’t answer the phone. Whatever. Their loss.

Yes, I lose some money in the short term, but not overly pursuing resellers or by playing “by their rules” I keep my ethics in the long term, and end making things better for everyone. Seems like a fair trade.

If you have thoughts on resellers, shoot 'em out. It’s not something I get to talk to customers about very often.

If there are resellers which you think are exceptional, ones that really serve their customers, are as honest as they can be, and are EASILY REACHABLE (we’re the easiest to reach pheromone company by far - 800# direct, almost always answered) pm me about 'em.

Thanks

omg…when will the new store open..can you give me an estimate please…you dangle the candy in front of the baby and tell them they can’t have it until later, but when later?

Can’t be Androstedienone since you already have made that..can it?

Haven’t Had much experience with other resellers besides Love-scent..they are great about getting the product out quickly, notifying forum members before a new product is out. Also, having a high traffic forum to talk about products and everything else under the sun is part of there great success..I can’t see love-scent being what it is now without the forum.

Yeah, LS is probably the best and only one, unless there’s something else hiding out there.

I was about to approve what appeared to be one of the only other major ones (I won’t say which), but they don’t answer their phone and actually carry a Schedule III item on their store, and won’t remove it. I’m not going to get my product mixed up in any raids. I don’t want my product on the same premises, period.

I used to work with vitamin companies at one point, and we had enough trouble (for no reason whatsoever) with Johnny Law, so I really don’t want to give them a real reason. Carry items as illegal as cocaine and heroine is irresponsible.

I’m waiting on snail slow coders to get back to me about the store. Even I dont know at this point. aaaaaaaaargghhhh! :slight_smile:

Is there anyway MHarris that I can buy the product from you directly? Gosh u have me wanting IFM Mix 1 right now..can u atleast give me a close estimate when the store will be open with this product?

At least another week. The labels being done, too.

Could you give me first dibs? lol

An interjected comment about a314 by itself:

As I read over this I realized that one of the effects I have been noticing while wearing A314 (alone or in combination with other products) is that the women I am with seem to default to me as “leader” and have a tendency to follow where I go, even when I’m not expecting them to. Interesting. This applies to a 60+ y/o and a 35 y/o (I’m 50+ y/o). (Black cap version purchsed from L-S.)

does the same for me too..especially with male friends. I’ve seen it on young women too 17-25yr old range on men and women.

and that makes you angry?

lol ooops I guess I accidentally hit the wrong smily icon..