Whats up pherotalk? Well ive been around the pheromone scene since 07 tried most of em from IS to Alter Ego to A314. At that time I was 17 and had wonderful results with it. Fast forward this to 2015. I was like hey ill give ammo a try because my cousin swore by this stuff. Wore it to the club (Started with 1 spray) on friday and saturday night in two different clubs. Nothing out of the ordinary. The next week i started with 2-3 sprays on my neck and inner elbows. I did that for 2 weekends and not even 1 hit. Now i finally upgraded it to 4 sprays. Thats when i started getting looks from females, random conversations and hell even a few numbers.. It all was going good till I entered a lounge and a dude who i was cool with for about a year randomly comes up to me and said “ill fk you up right now” for no reason. Also at 4 sprays my anger is off the charts. The smallest thing could go wrong and id get really MAD about it. It felt like i was going hulk mode. I played with the sprays from January when it was cold in NY till i finished the bottle in May when it was hot and humid.. Nothing.. Until 4 sprays but it seems to be more negative than positive. Im thinking about going back to 4x IS & 1x TUTH. Which seemed to work in the past. My cousin also told me about P75 but i never tried it. Can anyone recommended some new pheros I can try with IS or maybe even stand alone. Mostly for club/night use? I Really wanna make this summer interesting lol
Hi johnny.
At time’s u can gt such responses . U see pheros effect everyone in diffrent way . It also gets blend with ur skin nd with ur natural pheros. So actually you are giving vibes with ammo 4 sprays plus ur natural mones. Being young u also produce gud quantity of your mones. So this might be intimidating to this perticular guy. Whether u got any such types of reaction from anyother guy too?
Yes u xan look into p75 also alternately. carry sum experimenting and read some post here .
Best of luck . Take care friend
Is this the standard version of Ammo we’re talking about?
For the self-effect of aggression, use on application points below the shoulders; wrists, inner elbow.
The next week, was it 2 or 3 sprays? You need to specific, because with pheromones there is a very fine line between finding the sweet spot, and OD’ing. If you went straight for 3, perhaps you were slightly in OD territory, and were being ghosted.. that’s why it may have seemed like no one was attracted. Then 4 sprays the next week probably stepped up the OD into an aggressive, imposing way. Some women will have found this attractive, hence the hits. Though some men will act defensive and aggressive. You should try 2 sprays just on your wrists and see what happens.
Ammo has never been an obvious hit product, for me. It just adds a smooth underlying finesse. Depending on the situation, I then steer it with a different product.
How are you often perceived in clubs?
For me, without pheromones, guys around my age are quite friendly, borderline over-friendly. Girls seem to be attracted (pulling me up to dance and so on..). Older men and women seem totally oblivious to me; I get on with my night, they got on with theirs. With Ammo + TUTH (2:1) Guys are over-friendly, touchy-feely and more ‘bromantic’. They pay more compliments, which are essentially acts of submission. Girls are lot more obvious with their attraction, although they were more holding my hand and calling me a gentleman, more than anything sexual. Tons more DIHL looks from the midst of the dance floor, and loads more approaches.
ammo world edition has worked better for me than regular. More smiles I get. odd since its the same formula just a different scent. Try ammo world.
P75 may work for some, but it has not done anything for me.
So i have used the same product and different scents and got different results sometimes. I found that people tend to inhale deeper when they are around a scent they like.
Well in the next week i acutally did 2-3 sprays, maybe even 3.5 because the nozzle gave me a half spray when i first went to apply it. Guys were staring me down determined to make full eye contact and it wasn’t friendly ethier. I dont think i was giving off a shitty vibe either cause my personlity is just happy and care free. Im a dancer so im always dancing in the club which often pulled in females. I was never the type to stand against the wall with my drink in my hand and mean mug. Thats why I think ammo caused that. When i actually did 4 full sprays it was at another club. The bartender that didnt really know me gave me one on the house, which i thought was a hit. Passing threw the club i was getting bumped into by random dudes, people stepping on my feet and all kind of aggressive behavior. One of my homegirls was like hey maybe they’re just jealous. I nodded my head and said yeah maybe (in my head was like yeah fucking right thats what you think xD) I did try to buffer the smell with different colognes including gucci guilty, polo blue, curve crush and even AXE. Either it was nothing or get a hit from a female that escalated into drama with males. Maybe ammo isnt for me lol
You might want to consider some IO in there - You are describing responses to a None OD pretty well. IO will help moderate it and make the mix far more sociable. IS is also viable and will make things more happy/feelgood but it won’t moderate None as well as IO.
P74 or TAC are also viable moderators here - P74 is more friendly, where TAC is more goofy/playful. 7.5-10mcg concentrations are probably a good starting point.
TUTH/IO/IS is a good no-nonsense club mix on a younger guy but you need to get your dosage issues sorted before taking-out a more directly sexual mix.
Ammo + IO is a very good mix indeed. When I wore it, bar employees were giving me little extras (like pour me a premium, but charge me for a well drink), girls were dancing affectionately with me, and guys were being only mildly aggressive. I could even act slightly confrontational in return and out-alpha other guys on the dance floor, with minimal risks of them getting in my face. This is even more true today, now that I’m older and not seen as direct competition for young guys’ women. Instead of trying to intimidate me, they simply ignore me.
Ammo + IShine is good too, but it’s less of a physical boundary-enforcer. When I wore this mix, I noticed men were more likely to touch me on the shoulder, joke around with me, and such. While with Ammo + IO, they were more hands-off and acted more reserved, while still being friendly. (This almost seems contrary to IO, but still.)
Among P’s, P84 and P91 work great with Ammo; I’m not sure about the rest.
I’d suggest you try P91 with TUTH/IO/IS or TUTH/IS.
Although it does work with Ammo, I find that the Rone in Ammo does conflict with the P91 a bit - to the detriment of the whole mix. Makes it slightly confused/unfocused, nothing bad, not angry/agressive.
Hey man,
You might have OD’d. Wash your application points thoroughly, take one weekend off from using pheromones and try again…try with two sprays one on your neck and one on your wrists.
I think the girls were giving you attention, and the guys hated the fact that you had an attractive and dominant aura that imposed upon their masculinity. True men, who don’t need to prove themselves to others - or in most cases, themselves - wouldn’t act like this unless you were actually acting like a di*k. Perhaps you could keep the dose that got you the hits, but steer it with something to bring a level of modesty to you. Doing this won’t make the guys act even more aggressive, as they only act like this if they feel threatened. I only ever see guys staring each other down and initiating confrontations when both parties are clearly instigating with an aura of ‘I’m the alpha around here’. It’s more of a feeling of bullying and immasculation when there is only one guy trying to instigate; what you had was a challenge to prove the top dog, essentially.
It all boils down to the fact they were jealous.. your homegirls were right! 