I’ve been testing the standard product line (Ammo,IShine,IH,IG,IO,TUTH,A314) for over 6 months now and most of them helped me a lot in socializing and flirting. My favorite is definitely a Ammo & IShine combination (heard it’s also known as the rockstar combo
Nevertheless I am looking for some help from you guys now. I am dating a really beautiful, sweet girl for weeks now, but I didn’t manage to get out of the friend zone yet. She is very shy and reserved, so I am sure it’s not that my current combination (2xAmmo + 2xIShine + 2xIH) would be ‘too weak’. I am also sure that too much Ammo would just scare her off (tried it once with 4x and she got totally nervous, started stuttering and left the spot…).
On the other hand, I need to get out of the friendship zone, so I can’t only build on IShine,IO,IH. Is there anything I could add to my regimen with a similar effect as Ammo?
Or sth. to combine with Ammo that could contribute to my goals? Maybe one of the experimentals or putatives?
Thanks a lot for your feedback and all the best,
mgd
This is often used as a possible solution to FZ misery. But why go back to the FZ girl after getting someone hotter, sweeter etc.. ? This is more a fix for moving on in a very very good way instead of a solution to the actual FZ.
OK so are you actually dating this girl as in BF/GF? Going on dates like taking her out to dinner, buying her things, manipulating situations with money to show her how much you care for her? OR, and hopefully not, just orbiting around her, again showering her with affection in the form of money, doing tasks and things for her at her beck and call, like laundry, mowing the lawn, washing her car, while she is out with her boyfriend?
It might seem harsh, but these are legitimate questions so we can discover where you actually are with her.
Guys, sorry for the confusion. I am European and dating in Europe means taking someone out for dinner, beach, movies etc..
Your comments make me assume that this is probably different in North America
Anyways, I guess you got the story. Repetitive dates are common (for non-slutty girls) and usually not a bad sign
Anyways, I am not the pushy guy and would btw also appreciate her as a real friend (she’s a smart girl), so I am hoping for a clear sign of physical attraction before making a move.
Any recommendations (phero related, other strategies are pretty much in place
MGD, how do you view yourself? The reason I’ve asked, is because the way you see yourself in your own mind is the way others will eventually see you, too. I believe you will receive helpful advise. please feel comfortable telling us what’s on your mind or sharing more if you think it will be helpful.
Dating is a very ambiguous term in general. To my understanding, dating is just that initial phase of… taking a girl out and having fun with her. Until anything is established, ie a relationship, you are free to date as many people as you see fit.
Either way, I dislike how in American culture we’re too sexually uptight. It’s ridiculous.
If you’re fed up you could always do the direct approach, just tell her straight up how you feel and if she doesn’t respond favorably you can remove your interest and move on with your life (perhaps to get those more beautiful, smarter, girls that I was mentioning before )
If you want something phsyical to happen, the man is the one who has to make the move. Start with some playful touching and just see what happens. I don’t know about you, but if I am into someone I would rather not keep them around as just friends.. its just disappointing and you will probably resent them later. Take the next step and hope for the best!
Well if you are “dating” then you SHOULD have her in the bag, all you have to do is close it. If you are hanging out then that is a different story. Have you guys kissed and what not? Have you payed for her?
My personal favorite love potion is: A314(2)<neck> Ammo(1/2)<torso/chest> p83(1)<upper pecs>… IS would help if she is feeling down… When you say friend zone, how does she look at you? a friend, a brother? her “gay friend” (I have a really hot friend, slutty, but none the less hot who thinks of me as her gay friend who isn’t gay…I rather see me in her pants but no amount of mones can change..jk it can because she thinks I am hot now ) But please don’t give up unless you know for a 100%fact it is a lost cause. Give us some more feed back, me and I am sure everybody else is more than happy to help you out!
My advice would be either switch the two sprays of IH to a single spray if IO. Less nice guy, won’t over buffer your none signal and is a bit more fun…that or swap out the ammo for tuth, it would be a little more sexual and add a physical closeness to the emotional connection the IH is creating.
I could be wrong but, you already built attraction, and you said she is shy so that means you need to build comfort… I think IO and IH can help with that..she is already attracted to you, if you want to turn it to something special (and not simply a sexual fling), you NEED to build that comfort level to the point where you can fart out loud beside each other (and think its funny) and basically talk about anything..
First off if you would appreciate her as just a friend then you are sending a mixed signal. If you think of her as a friend, then you two will just be friends. Period.
How many dates have you been on? There is nothing wrong with dating. If you ask a girl out, and she goes out with you that should be all you need. I mean you aren’t going to just get naked and jump her right? Are you guys flirting?
Look the bottom line is you have to touch her. Then touch her again. Then touch her again. and continue the process. It sounds like you guys are in comfort zone. So now you need to do some testing. Escalate touching. If she likes it, and returns touching, then you can start doing take aways to get her to touch you more.
I would go with 3x ammo + 1 or 2x IS for two weeks. Then, I would start throwing in a couple IH to ammo. After about a month, start throwing in a drop or two of A314. You have to SEXUALLY get them interested first, dude
