Hey everyone, I need some advice, i got this friend, she is very close to me we meet every day, i realy like her, we eat together almost everyday, we watch movies in my room just me and she, in my bed, i live alone, she always wanna be with me, she huge me when we are watching movies on my bed, she laugh at my jokes, and we know each other about 4 months, in the first month i used alter ego sometimes and she like it she said a couple times that i smell realy good and 2 times we have sex, but now im using ammo and is and tuth, and everytime im alone with her and i try to have sex she said, that she doesnt want to have sex with me cause she see me like friend, that she doenst desire me, i tried ammo alone 2 sprays single strengh, nothing, IS 3 sprays + 2 sprays ammo, nothing, IS 3 sprays + 1 tuth, nothing, IS 3 sprays + 2 tuth, nothing, tuth alone 2 sprays noting, what can i do, i dont know what happen, what can i use? maybe try a putative?? i was thinking in get IH with tuth, i dont know, i want to break the friend zone but i dont know what to use, maybe back to alter ego??? thanks for the help…
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I would try to Mix in some A314 to Get the respect aspect going, and openness and honesty. a man in whom she can confide and talk freely good luck!
Friendzones are difficult TBH.
For starters, how old are you both? This has some bearing because of the none levels in different products. Ammo and TUTH togeher is pretty potent on a younger guy and it could be that the none made you seem overly horny to her. Saying that, Alter Ego is also in your face - how many drops there?
Personally I have found some responsive to the social charisma of MX297 or 390 (same mix, different scents) plus a little none at the right moment - this has included Alter Ego, TUTH or plain none .
Other women friends have responded to A314 alone or combined with IH, P74, IH/P74 together, P83 and Alter Ego , TUTH, and IJ.
However, this has also been combined with a radical change in attitude and behaviour towards them and you need to be prepared to step right back and risk not being such a close friend to them .
Stop hanging out, stop taking meals and being there for them all the time. In other words, don’t give her all the benefits of a relationship without any input from her side. Take a break from her then when you do see them, keep it short and make every minute count for fun and close personal interaction. If your time as friends together has given you any insight into the sorts of behaviour patterns/traits thst attrsct her, it might be worth thinking on how you might intergrate them into your persona but be realistic & don’t try to fake them. Equally, stay true to your own standards and values or she will see through it in no time.
I hate to say it, but I doubt that switching the pheromones will help you a whole lot in your situation. You got friend zoned because of a lack of attraction. Mones can’t make somebody be attracted to you; they can help direct your attracting building behavior.
Let me put it this way:
Pheromones open the door, you still have to walk through the door. She isn’t attracted to you for reasons other than your smell. Perhaps you are telegraphing needy behavior, perhaps you are seeking acceptance, perhaps you are letting her make all the decisions and just following along every time you go out. I really don’t know.
Can you tell us more about your interactions with her. I really don’t think you can salvage this one into a romantic relationship (sorry, it has happened to us all). You can change things with women in the future, though. Take this as a learning experience.
You’ve had sex with her twice and now you are on the friendzone? You’ve tried alter ego, she said she liked it on two occasions and you ended up having sex with her twice?
I’m not sure if anyone else is reading this particular line on your post because if I read it correctly then it seems you’ve used the pheromone alter ego to seduce her, she liked the smell, you had sex with her twice, in which case the “friendship” boundaries is already compromised and you are not really “friendzoned”, but maybe you didn’t satisfy her and then she decided that it’s best that you be friends with her.
Hmm, you dipped into her honey-box twice and now she only wants to be friends? Either you were terrible in bed and she decided to pack it in or maybe you’re in the friend with benefits zone. Like Luke mentioned, you already breached the friendzone barrier and multiple times at that. If the sex was unsatisfying or gross for her, and she gave you a second chance to no avail, ain’t no mone gonna change the reality of that fact. I’ve been with women I really liked but the sex was terrible I had to retract so to speak. Of course it’s rare you can merely go back to being friends once you drank the whole glass 'o wine, so it’s surprising the two of you are still hanging out.
You should start dating other women. If she’s confused now she may realize she has feelings for you once the threat of competition arises. Of course, she might egg you on and, in such case, no loss as you can move on to better things and start clean.
Of course, real friends last for many years, even a lifetime. Lovers come and go and, sometimes, if you really care for someone, friendship leads to a deeper and longer lasting relationship. Fucks ain’t hard to come by. Friends are.
Hi the sex was really good, she told me the 2 times that it was really good, and she say that she wants to have sex again and every time that i try she said “i was thinking in have sex with you” but i dont like you i just saw you like a friend. So im confused cause if she see me like a friend why she had sex with me twice, wtf, i dont understand, and why she wanna be with me all the time and hug me every moment when we are alone, i dont know, maybe Gegigi is right i should start dating other women and see what happen.
Im 27 and she is 23, i used 2 drops one of each side of neck, but i dont want to use again this phero cause i´ve been testing and i see nothing till now so it seen like it works but only with her, i dont wanna waste my money buying a phero that only works for one girl, thats why im testing ammo, tuth and all this pheros, cause i want to see the same effect from alter ego in ammo or tuth or in any other phero but for more than one woman.
Sounds like you’re getting Used as the Goto Fuck for When She Can’t get what She Wants Elsewhere… Not a Horrible Thing, Just You’ll Only get Some when She’s Down on Her Luck… You are Already Friends with Her… So, You are In Already… Now it’s a Matter of Changing Her Perception of You… Increase the Sexual Tension, Flirt it Up Some… Tell Her About Some Chick you Like, Women Love alittle Competition even if it’s just in their Head… OtherWise it’s Just More of the Same…
yeah you right i think the same, but when i start to flirt she say “stop, i dont like that, dont flirt with me”, she is so complicated to me, and when i Tell Her About Some Chick that i Like, she get jelous, i can see that cause she immediately start doing the same with me, talking about some guys she likes, so i dont know she is so… i dont know hahah.
That actually sounds ok Latinboy - a little jealousy can go a long way.
Also IME, Alter Ego is a good phero. So long as you ain’t ODing, it will be good with a wide range of women. I would rate it alongside Ammo and a lot better than TUTH for someone that age. TUTH’s more blatent sexuality can backfire with a younger woman.
Have you thought on Instsnt Shine or IH? These socials can play an important role in comfort and triggering attraction, esp in younger women. Its not all about just getting her horny.
And I think Pandakun is bang-on. You need to focus on attraction building behaviour, not her complications - have fun, let her miss you, have more fun and see what happens next.
Have you actually asked her to be your girlfriend ? Do you even want her to be your GF ?
What exactly do you want ? Your giving mixed signals as well its not just her. I find your behavior just as confusing.
You flirt, spend time with her, wear products to try to get her to have sex. She has sex with you but you dont establish any other kind of relationship other then friends so she probably figures your only being her friend to bang her. Since your actively trying to bang her you are.
Did you verbally discuss where you are in the relationship and what you want from it ? Being friends with benefits is not a easy type relationship. It requires being clear and respectful of each others feelings and expectations for the relationship. Its not just her who is sending confusing signals.
I gotta laugh because I can see her sitting with her girlfriends saying…
I dont know he is so confusing, he seems like he likes to be with me, he flirts and we had sex twice but he hasn’t asked me to be his GF and he been talking about other girls he likes. Maybe he is just looking for a sperm depository. I dont know what he wants.
And her GF’s are saying …
Girl “stay true to your own standards and values” LOL Yes she has those as well. Dont let him use you. Have some self respect.
So to me her signals are quite clear…
Translation… I find you sexually attractive but you haven’t indicated you want anything other then friendship and I am not willing to be your sperm bank although it was enjoyable on the first two deposits.
Translation… Please dont lead me on anymore.
Translation…
Its obvious your not interested in me other then your depository since your talking about other girls you like so I may as well move on.
Now keep in mind her GF’s probably told her the same thing the guys are telling you here. …Move on, make him jealous and he will realize how he feels.
Now there is one other thing it could be… She really doesnt want to pursue a relationship with you other then friendship. At the same time she wants you to know the sperm bank is not open 24/7. If that is the case then you shouldnt be making deposits just when she decides its ok to visit the bank. You have values and standards to maintain as well. Never compromise those or your will end up with a unrealiable bank with no return on your deposit.
Your never gonna know till you ask though.
Men want to be the Alpha’s but they dont want to lead . You led her to sex and thats what you got but have you led her anywhere else ? Have you made clear your intentions ? Have you made clear what your needs are ? Being a alpha requires that.
I suggest you put the TUTH and AE away, think about what it is exactly you want from the relationship, Use lots of IH and Ishine. Maybe a little Ammo for a interesting cool sexy connected vibe. Tell her what your intentions and expectations are and if she doesn’t have those same intentions and expectations then stop pursuing sex because sex means something entirely different to a female then it does to a male. Then stop spending so much time with her and giving her your attention. Maybe this will cause her to change her expectations to match your own and maybe it wont but at least you will be on the same page.
Oh and I really dont think attraction is the problem. She wouldn’t have had sex with you if she was not attracted to you. She wouldn’t spend time with you if she didnt have some level of affection for you. I think the problem is neither of you has made it clear what you want and she is looking for you to take the lead and at the same time trying to preserve her own dignity and self worth.
Now keep in mind I am not saying your a bad guy or you have done some terrible injustice to your friend. I think sometimes in relationships people just assume the other party knows what there wants and needs are and it never occurs to them to stop and actually verbalize them.
Tisha
Omg, i think u r absolutely right, i want her to be my gf, but when i try to flirt with her she always stop me and say that she doesnt like me like a man just like a friend, but is how u say, she wouldn’t have had sex with me if she was not attracted to me, im going with IH + IS and 1 ammo and see what happen, thank u for this i really appreciate this.
have you thought about building sexual tension read some seduction books.
i can believe you sit in a room with a hot 23 year old and watch dvd’s without making a move.
its obvious she likes you you just need to make a move.