Which of the two club orientated pheromones does everyone prefer and why?
At which level of sprays do you get the best results?
Ammunition = noobs
Turn up the Heat = pros
Ammunition is a mix combining different primary pheromones, including the primary pheromone in Turn Up The Heat
Turn Up the Heat focuses on one primary pheromone: Androstenone.
Its usually recommended to mix Turn Up the Heat with something like Instant Openness or Instant Shine, whereas Ammunition is usually best used alone.
If you’ve got the right components to build your own mixes, TUTH offers quite a bit more flexibility than Ammunition. However the mix in ammunition is a proven combination on its own…it takes the guesswork out of building your own mixes.
The level of sprays that works best can vary quite a bit from user to user, so a little experimentation is needed. For example, there are members here who see good results with TUTH at a single spray. I, on the other hand, have found my sweet spot to be 2 sprays of the older formulation, which was twice as concentrated. So I’m essentially applying 4 times more than some of the people here. As far as androstenone goes, this has been a general trend for me for quite a while now.
Thanks Sigma, i appreciate your input. I gather from the contents of Turn of The Heat, that it would be a lot easier to OD than with Ammunition.
im going to disagree here.
i will state this:
there is no such thing as pheromones for “noobs” and “pros”.
that implies that TUTH is eventually for everybody, and if we read alittle about androstenone, it aint all that. it has the ability to turn a good date with possibilities into a nightmare. try shaking THAT rep!
Ammo has 'none in it, and its a sweeeeet dose. it has other stuff as well that is all around hornifying.
TUTH is 'none.
adding a spray to the IO or IH or instant shine you are already wearing is doing just that…turning the heat UP… and that is great, but by itself, read up on just using androstenone and make up your own mind.
everything here has its place.
you cant screw up Ammo, but TUTH is not always necessary,but nice to have around.
They both contain a decent amount of androstenone, so the potential to OD is certainly there with both products. The more socially oriented pheromones included in Ammunition do seem to buffer against the negative effects of androstenone though, so its a far more ‘positive’ type of effect by itself. That being said, I have managed to OD on Ammunition…usually because I carelessly would re-apply with it. I was using an older version though, which if I’m not mistaken, had a heftier amount of androstenone in it.
sheesh lor, if I ever ran into you in person…I know what I’d wear lol
but anyway yeah I’m still experimenting around with different ways to utilize androstenone in sexual and attraction mixes. The negative effects can make your life harder than it needs to be, so I’m trying to find ways to better benefit from the positive results of it, without suffering too much from the negatives. I’ve tried leaving it out, and opting for something like P79 and/or P74/83 but it certainly felt like something was missing. I still use it, but in drastically reduced quantities from what I had been using in the past.
im sorry sigma, i DO wear my pheromones on my sleeve!
i think adding the androstenone to already happinin mixes is genius, but i just dont think anyones lacking without it. and certainly not you.
Could you add something like instant female magic, instant openness or instant shine to ammunition?
freakin absolutely.
i think my favorite is an Ammo/instant shine coctail, the rest being fun but this mixture brings sparks.
What ratio of shine:ammo?
oh,play with it ! it will be different for everybody, and im a gal so i wore 1 spray Ammo, 2 sprays instant shine.
you could easily get away with 2 sprays Ammo, 2 sprays shine i think.
maybe someone else here can shed light but playing with the doses to see what makes YOU shine is the fun of it!
you cant get it wrong and you never get it done!
Experiment i shall. What are your thoughts on A314?
got it.
love it.
now its not one of those pheromones i personally play with, i have tried and its way too manly.
however, i do make my guy friends wear it. okay,3 of them, and im not sure what it is but there is something in it that feels trustable. that might not make sense when you read threads on it, it didnt make alot of sense to me either. but i like it…alot.
ummm im thinking chivalry. it feels like chivalry.
okay, im thinking i need to find someone to wear A314 right now
Haha so i should get it and become the real James Bond.
well, read the posts and make up your own mind but when someone asks me what i think of a mix, i truely feel around for the word/words that personify how i feel when im around it, and not just the first time i smelled it either.
i like to be as accurate as i can to the feeling part, and sometimes it isnt until i start talking about a mix and thinking about how it made me feel that i start thinking to myself why the hell am i not using it right now???
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007 you would be 
Hey Lor,
I feel so silly for not asking this earlier, but what version of Ammo do you like the best? (Check the bottom of the bottle for the version number.)
v1.5 being more “Shiney” and v1.0 being more sexy
i have 1.5 , and that does it for me 
i have used the 1.0 only in a sample amount, so i havent been able to use it as often as the 1.5 … i liked it, but the 1.5 is my love (or maybe i just have more experience with it?)
I love A314, too. And I wear it! I have no trouble identifying with my animus (internalized/unconscious masculine qualities).
A314 induces a pyschic state that exemplifies all the fine masculine qualities that we were talking about on this thread: 3 things you like when you first notice a guy...
As one of the guys said, on about the 3rd page of it, if you want to attract those things, better BE those things…
i tried wearing it.
i enjoyed it, but i never felt like i was pulling it off. i felt like i was wearing a tie or a hat that just didnt go, lol.
now the Ammo got me the respect i thought i would get from A314. i got manners and kindness and it gave me an authoritive note, NONE of which i expected, but i expected it from A314.