The women once she sees you should go like … ‘Oh I gotta sleep with him’.
or is there any mone out there that make woman go… ’ Oh I want him as my BF’
To the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing. The closest you can get would be either Alpha A314 or perhaps something based on androstenone. Unfortunately, there’s no magic bullet.
Well, I don’t know about the former, but the latter just screams A314. (Shine and Openness, too. IFM, later, when youve actually “got her”.)
The trick is, she might not say that out loud! Or she might not feel “good enough” for you!
She’ll definitely drop hints though. She will think her hints are obvious but most of her IOIs go completely unnoticed by you silly men! 
Too, If she’s wanting you to be her BF, she will want to sleep with you, too…
Be careful how you approach relationships with A314, though. Here’s why.
She’ll want to keep you. If you’re wearing A314 to build up your “little black book” booty call list, you might elicit some SUPER posessive stalker-esque behaviors in girls who want you all to themselves. I’ve seen this, trust me! I had a friend here who regularly used A314. He caught the attention of a super hot artist chick who was about 8 years older than him. They ended up sleeping together. In his head this was a totally casual relationship, they weren’t officially “together”, no commitment.
She ended up going PSYCHO on him. Out of nowhere, this otherwise awesome woman demanded he lose the numbers of all his female friends (even the numbers of girls like me, who are OBVIOUSLY unavailable). She left him 37 messages on his phone one night. She left him notes at his door at 3 am. Super possesive, super needy, super desperate. She pressed the gas pedal too hard on the relationship in the beginning because she wanted him SO bad and couldn’t control herself in the presence of this higher value, A314 man.
Funny, too, another friend of his tried to break up with her boyfriend of 3 years for him. A314, man!!
Another silly thing— I even get g*$%&& crushes on him from time to time! And this is when I KNOW he wears A314!
And he would never know any of this stuff because he just bumbles through his life and doesn’t pay attention to all these IOIs (Indicators of Interest) all these girls drop. You would think breaking up a long term relationship would make guys realize what’s going on… but you guys can be blockheads sometimes!! 
Hmmm. Sounds like the best thing to do would be to do IO and IShine mostly, with just the barest hint of a314 (if at all) for “general trolling.” If you find an item of interest, then maybe up the a314 if for no other use than as a “quality filter” (and after evaluating possible “psycho” reation potentials??). Primarily for the LTR type situations. Maybe otherwise go for a -none product if you are after ONS (??).
Then perhaps add in the IFM when needed when you are concentrating on a “special someone?”
Just guesses here…
For this reason, having been there and through that wringer
You CANNOT imagine what it is like being on the receiving end of a one-sided stalker grade “relationship” until you’ve had it done to you… A girlchickwomancrazybitch (this was waaay before mones came into my life as an operational element) decided, for the two of us naturally, that I desperately NEEDED her… she was to be my, ummm, life coach of sorts I was informed, she got into physical fights with women I was with then threated to file assault charges, neglecting to consider that she instigated the brawls, she was always the poor downtrodden victim, victim, victim… and all her “friends” (a bunch of neurotic creeps that congregate in the Art World… which is for the most part a sad holding pen for long term losers and talentless parasites who are perfecting the art of being the bloodsucking leech while mastering their “rap”… i.e. a third rate recitation of mind numbing bullshit and desperately hoping to be taken for Somebody Who Matters… you get the idea) were her enablers, no, no, no… she wasn’t an abusive crazy raining destruction and chaos around her, throwing psychotic tantarums when somebody told her NO! to her face… unh uhh… she was “demanding her due” and “asserting her space” and “refusing to be victimized” which is all well and good IF that’s really what you’re about… a big IF there… but, no… she was just flipping out on her egotistic, immature magnificence and all her disgusting artsy friends were egging her on because, well, it was great entertainment, and they were, well, rather bored with their lives, you see, and nothing distracts a roomful of bored nonenetities like a nice episode of screaming paranoid psychodrama… it’s all so “honest” and “real”… maybe even authentic ? Ah, the strange places new age mind technologies and philosophies of wishful thinking lead us.
Anyway, this fine authentic creature finally spun herself so out of control that she was threatened with some major criminal prosecution that could have landed her in a bad place for a long time, a place filled with other authentic beings like herself known as Federal Prison… seems she tried her ham handed routine on the wrong guy and in the eyes of the penal code this was Extortion… and when faced with an Extortion charge, really deep shit that you can’t talk your way out of, she suddenly, well, it is like magic how the mind works, she suddenly GOT IT ! How foolish she had been, what WAS she thinking all that time ???.. people had put bad ideas in her head you see !!! She was terribly confused … it was
AWFUL… and HORRIBLE, annnnnd unfair, so unfair, and wrong, and she never meant to say those things !! Noooo… Never !!!
Gosh.
What’s a guy to do ?
For one thing, ask a lot of questions and do a lot of congruity checking and don’t be afraid to ask tough questions… if anyone is TOO impressed with you, TOO ready to put you on a pedestal, TOO much hanging on your every word… in other words, too damn needy, too damn desperate, too obsessive, you may be in for a wilder ride than you bargained for.
ifm hands down.
ive had nothing but success with this product.
A314 ( 1 drop) …2 sprays shine and 1 or 2 sprays of IO is a combination that has worked good for me. I haven’t tried IFM much yet. But I have the impression IFM is only good for keeping a girl or once you got the girl. Not when you are meeting and hooking up with new women. Any comments ?
thats how i view a314 because it makes girls not initiate. meaning they are scared to just come up to you. you have to do more talking to prove you arent just ‘trying’ to pick up. plus depending on the person, it could make you seem stuck up. thus the distance.
IFM is comfort. once you talk, she wont back off. she’ll really want to know you, and she’ll feel comfortable. she has to be comfortable with you in order for her to just leave with some random stranger. being bold might seem like “shes another pick up”
So here is an odd question… Do you suppose A314 (and perhaps other 'mones) can act on the way one projects one’s personality at such a deep level that somebody who has never experienced the 'mones directly can nonetheless somewhat have this reaction?
(My sense is yes, at the margin. I had a somewhat odd reaction with a girl I met on the net who otherwise seems very sane. Drives her crazy that in her eyes she is so much more into me than she perceives to be the case the other way round). Mones act much more deeply than we are willing to recognise.
This is top secret so don’t tell anyone
I got a nice potency boost by adding in a reasonable amount of Pregnenolone (micronized powder)… well, was it a reasonable amount ? One miiligram is 1000 mu so maybe I was getting 250 mu per application over a couple of days… the mix was on the complex side, primarily beta-nol, some TAL, some more TAA, and dienone… and the preg… people reacted crisply, rapidly, like a brain switch went click and they warped into very social behavior. Beautiful girl had dinner with me, blowing off a much younger guy who thought he had hooked her for the evening… left him standing there with his mouth hanging open… a couple of dykes started acting very dykey-turfy giving a younger guy a hard time about his behavior (ok with me, he was a mindless jerk that didn’t get that he was a mindless jerk… albeit a nice pleasant badly socialized jerk)… was it the -dienone plus the TAL that hit the dyke power button ? Older gal spontaneously asks me to go to lunch with her, never met her before, didn’t know her name… she wasn’t as intertesting as I had hoped, oh well…
you have had luck with preg? well how interesting. pregnenolone got me into 'mones in the first place. i had such a shocking improvement in success with women after supplementing 25mg pregnenolone daily orally (non ceteris paribus, but still) that i had to try to figure out was was going on! i mean i went in my peer group from having zero success to being remarkably successful overnight (context is that I have various endocrine quirks).
of course, in some ways this is hardly surprising -
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1688354&dopt=Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=3654919&dopt=Abstract
http://www.life-enhancement.com/article_template.asp?ID=329
“Now, I’m trying to figure out how only 150 molecules can have such an influence. It appears to be similar to a pheromone-like effect, such as when a few molecules of sex-attractant from a female moth informs a male moth a mile away of her location. There are a number of possible mechanisms for this effect in which a cell is signaled by a particular substance to produce more of itself in greatly increased amounts”.
tried a spritz of beta-dienol today. only 20mcg added to usual megaton daywear yet it seemed to have massive impact in attention gathering behaviour (girls in starbucks and on the tube staring). something to be further explored.
care to reveal ratios and absolute dosage?
now, why do you suppose we are both somewhat sensitive people but prefer larger doses?
consistency
one general observation is that since switching to androtics products and using an anti-androgen shampoo to shower application points, I seem to be getting consistent results day after day. I don’t think it’s entirely the shampoo, though no doubt that helps. Any thoughts?
more about the phormula
It did have a lot of MEO-EST, now that I think about it… primarily beta-nol and meo-est and preg, backed up with TAA, TAL, -dienone… really hot shit…
I dread to imagine what would happen if you put a potent male -none like molecule in there…
more about pregnenolone
What is pregnenolone? When I googled it I found out its a product to alleviate stress & develop memory. Does it help in interactions with women? Please inform me more about this product.
And this question is for pheroquirk … Why anti androgen shampoo ? How does that help ? And is it necessary?
Pregnenolone is a master precursor hormone. Your body can convert it into almost any other hormone, including DHEA, that readily converts to various forms of hormones.
The theory is that if you’re producing more testosterone (as well as other hormones) internally, you will produce more pheromones.
Sorry, T, but I’m kind of a newbie. What’s Pregnenolone? The reaction you got certainly sounds interesting. I haven’t gotten to the point of yet of actually trying to formulate stuff - I’m just mixing on the fly and very unscientifically. But I’m very curious about this preg stuff you mention.
Jack
There are too many factors in attractions
everybody make the initial mistake of assuming that a chemical trigger equals a complex behavioral-attitudinal response. What I have come to believe is that, with experience, there is a kind of dialectical relationship between pheromone and phero-oid substances, behavioral learning, and behavioral responses… the proper use of pheros allows some undeveloped possibilities in my behavioral repertoire to become more fleshed out with practice… and ultimately my “personality” (i.e. behavioral skill set) becomes richer and more complex over time because it is receiving a more varied behavioral diet, there are more inputs to my neural net that I may respond to. I think there is a HUGE difference between someone who takes a purely passive stance, i.e. put on some liquid and hope the chicks come flocking, that’s the sessile option A, or a second individual who actively uses the opportunity to explore new behavioral opportunities, option B, and then someone who has a monomania about trying to hook up and takes seduction classes, organizes his life around trying to find more sex, more hedonism, the narrowly defined option C.
The option A practitioner has allowed himself to become over defined early in life and may have difficulty in general thinking outside of the box. He’s using pheromones to lure (hopefully) interesting creatures inside the box, his worldview. The fascinating creatures that fly in may just as easily fly back out if there’s nothing there to sustain their long term interest… because if they have a brain they’ll soon learn that Mr. A’s problem is that he can’t see the box he’s living in, and getting him to see that box is a LOT of work…
The option B practitioner has a better awareness of his box, after all everybody has one, but the critical difference is that he might be interested in walking out of his box and stepping into someone else’s for a while. Pheromones seem to be good for that. Under the best circumstances, with the right formulation, you can almost subliminally find yourself entering into another’s “reality system” for a while, a sort of deep empathetic (not NECESSARILY sympathetic!.. and man does it pay to know the difference) identification with the other person… a holistic Getting It… and sometimes this can happen with striking rapidity… aha! so this is who you are ! Of course you will drift back to your own home space, but you will come back deepened and enriched from that contact… and sometimes, yes, that is profoundly erotic, sometimes it is just mind opening, and sometimes you are shocked to discover what tiny closets some people spend their mental lives in… so be warned, you can be in one of these wonderful empathy states and experience the suffocating claustrophobia of some minds as well… like, WOW ! That person hangs out THERE ??? ALL THE DAMN TIME???
There there is option C, the Playa, the Mack… who, sure, in certain environments, with certain personality types, will be getting over, but at the end of the day Mr. Mack lives for… ego gratification… or he’s good at sliding by sweet talking some freebees for himself, fundamentally though he’s a lonely dude who can’t figure out that no matter how good he is, something is always missing… pheromones will have an interesting, although not entirely salutary effect on Mr. C… because initially he’ll be more effective, he may even find himself unexpectedly humanized, vulnerable, and, well… real, and this may well scare the pants off of him, even if it is his best potential self, the one he’s spent a lifetime neglecting, so he might wise up and start working on his inner nature and start morphing into a Mr. B, or he might gloss it up more, work out harder, consider cosmetic surgery, and wonder about that strange feeling in the pit of his stomach.
For my time and money, option B is your best deal, when you’re thinking in terms of real growth and your coming from a position of deep curiosity about other people.
Wow. What amazing, accurate words of wisdom. I had to read your post three times.
I know I can be a blockhead when it comes to women, although I am getting better about it. But your post explains why my friends have been acting so strangely around me since I started wearing A314. Two of them want to spend every waking moment with me, and I think one of them is falling for me, even though she knows I am on the rebound. Both of them love A314… one claims it’s her favorite “cologne”, followed by Instant Shine, and one says its her second favorite (after Pherlure).
I think I am going to have to stop wearing this stuff for a while. This is starting to get out of hand. I have so much attention from women lately that my ego is getting too big. And when that happens, I always regret it. Maybe I should “go invisible” mone wise and lay low for a while. But wow, I am stunned at what these things are doing!
Now if only I could stop attracting girls I have put into the friend zone! lol
Do tell us more, oh wise Jasmine!
wow…another reminder to always use A314 in everymix…only place I thought of leaving it out is in clubs and bars.
mmm.. why?