Sorry that I start so many threads that all seem related.
What would you use if you want people to approach you. Not in a “I want to have sex with you right now” type approach. But an interested in talking with you approach.
I am thinking
shine
come talk to me 2
openness.
In fact I was just about to put in an order for a togo of openness x2 and togo shine x2.
I am just afraid to commit.
I think this might be an impossible situation; in most social circumstances, you, the male, are expected to approach.
The shine, openness and CTTM would all make you more approachable, but I would guess they probably don’t result in girls initiating and chatting you up cold.
First, the girl has to be motivated. This could be natural curiosity about you, or it could be ovulation time and she’s responding to your -none. The motivation (attraction) has to be strong enough to make her want to get up and approach you. (And then some.)
There are two forces that deter a girl from approaching you, even if she is motivated. One is sociobiology: many girls either innately work from a position of wanting to attract males to them, or they are socialized to do so. You probably don’t have much control over this part of the dynamic, although you could try to find a millieu with a lot of girls who are social non-conformists. I can think of some subcultures where girls are socially aggressive, and it’s not only allowed, but expected.
The second is your approachability. The pheros you listed will, I think, definitely make you more approachable. But making yourself more approachable might not lower the bar enough .. you can raise motivation, or you can look for situations where there is less social inhibition, or both.
(Drunk girls are also less inhibited, but that opens up the “quality of experience” issue.)
Good luck, fella,
Cheers
All the mones you mentioned are good, partly because they will make you feel more open socially, and less self-conscious. What Mark says is true too, that as a male you are expected to do the approach, it’s part of what makes you attractive as a male, being the active one.
Another idea in addition to Mark’s suggestions would be peacocking - this is a pickup term and I think it means carrying or wearing something that is a little odd and likely to elicit comments from others. Something that people just have to ask you about because it’s so incongruous with what they expect to see on a guy like you. A funny hat, a stuffed animal or piece of jewelry … maybe one of the guys will elaborate more on that?
Good call out, Carrie. But peacocking takes some skill, I think: wearing something distinctive / unexpected.
Done carelessly it either sends the wrong signal (e.g. wearing a woman’s blouse could signal to a girl that you’re competing with her for male attention) or sends a mixed signal (e.g. the pirate patch over your eye just screams out that you’re needy for attention instead of a confident, high-value alpha male.)
The best advice I’ve seen is that your “peacock” item needs to be something you can be totally congruent with. Otherwise, you are susceptible to being “topped” by other alpha-male guys who subtly ridicule you for your “distinctive look.”
Since late fall, I’ve been wearing a red leather cap that almost looks like a beret, though it’s just a bit more structured; it wasn’t custom-made so it’s not a one-of-a-kind, but it is uncommon (and I like it/am comfortable wearing it):
This is absolutely essential.
If you look at an actual peacock with a silly tail.
What the male is saying is “Hey, I’m so strong and so healthy, I can afford to have this stupid tail that will make predators and other men attack me, but I will always fend them off. If you become my partner then you will be protected by me.”
I peacock who is creeping round trying to hide his tail becuase he doesn’t feel comfortable and is scared of getting beaten up is not going to attract many lovely lady peacocks.
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I have a great way to make people want to come an talk to me…SMILE, smile all day everyday at everyone you see, young, old, male, female, happy or sad - smile at them all.
try this out for one day and notice the difference.
I am more using it for business application, which I should have specified. So not just girls that might be interested in dating but any girl or even guy. But the peacock idea is good too. I am going to keep my eye out for a little comethin somethin
In my experience, I don’t think it is so much the pheros that get women to approach you, as it is your ability to approach a woman and get her to converse. In other words, its game you need. Just saying HI to anyone that comes in your path, or even the simple act of smiling (which i believe incorporates over 100 muscles to perform) will boost self confidence. Small steps if you like. Only through practicing perfection can you achieve perfection.
HH
The standard logic is that guys don’t want to approach because they are afraid of rejection.
There has to be some underlying conceptual model to hang that fear on, though, and I’m wondering if it’s assigning too much importance to the act of approaching that’s the source of this:
Model One (Approaching is a Very Significant Event): “The fact that I’ve approached you signals that I am attracted to you, and if you reject me, it will signal to others that I have a social value lower than yours. Therefore approaching is risky, and I avoid it unless it looks like a sure thing that my approach will be accepted.”
Model Two (Approaching is Totally Natural and Not Unusual): “I’m approaching you because I always approach; it’s just a part of me. I approach anyone and everyone who arouses even the slightest shred of my curiosity; approaching isn’t at all risky regardless of the outcome of any one approach, because overall I am better for approaching … and it’s totally natural for me.”
Although I am mostly a model two type person, I would have to characterize myself as a hybrid, for the simple reason that i am selective as to whom i approach, slightest bit of interest or not. To me, approaching still has its risks, however, i do agree VERY strongly with your statement that i am overall the better for approaching. Like i said, only practicing perfection begets perfection, and that natural “killer” instinct will come with that practice.
HH 
Very true, dude! As Napoleon Hill once said, “Whatever the mind can conceive and believe, it can achieve”.
Everyone here gives good advice. Pheromones will not eliminate the role of the male as the initiator, even if they elicit more attractive responses from women.
That being said though, pheromones can help project a greater sense of approachability…in the sense that people will be more receptive to you if you were to approach them. When the mix is going right, life certainly is much easier on that end.
CTTM
IFM
IS
CTTM + IO might be alpha-nol overkill. This mix doesn’t have the sexual kick of others, but it’ll work very well as an ice-breaker mix with the ladies.
Any product containing alpha -nol is advicable here. But as other have said; with the right mental attitude added to the “mix”.
Matt
When it comes down to it I suspect no pheromone or similar product will stimulate an approach, but some sort of visual or auditory cue might.
A big sign on your chest saying “Ask Me About GrUM*nadig!” could draw attention for example…
In “business” situations you notice it’s like those demos at food stores… eyecatching display, free eats… etc. There has to be something to draw people in.
If you can be a bit more specific in what you mean by “business” (sales? or what?) maybe someone can suggest something more specific.
There was this girl today who came asking for something to somebody else.. well I got in the conversation but it didn’t seem like she was too interested. I was wearing the unicorn spell … well I decided not to try to take it further like asking her name etc, as she didn’t seem too interested in me.
Not sure if I did the right thing in this sort of situation. I easily could have taken it further but unless I see some kind of interest back, I tend not to try then…
any ideas/suggestions on this kind of situation?
One step at a time. Do what you feel is “right.” You have to try to go forward, but not at the expense of going against your gut feelings. That would only end up sending a mixed confusing message.
My opinion.
I think I agree with you. And perhaps I might meet her again, who knows…
Someone needs to make this pheromone
i reckon best way to get ppl to approch u would be to wear somthing out the normal or do somthing different. For example Australia day here i went into a club the only one wearing one of tho’s long hat things around my neck with aussie flag on it when u buy a few beers. I had ppl running up to me going AUSSIE! etc lol + the pheromones i guess would help a lot more to. It could just been the drunkness and what not but its still a good way to do it i reckon
The famous “prop” (aka “conversation piece”)!
I’ve used a pinback button with a silly slogan, a decorative pin representation of my current avatar (Sailor Moon), and odd keychains dangling off a carabiner clip hanging off a belt loop as simple props for examples.
They may not cause an approach from someone else, but they give the other party something to “notice” and talk about if nothing else.
Peacocking, there’s nothing like it, if you can do it.