ARe people with depressive disorders unaffected by pheromones?

I’m asking because I’ve had a long history of various depressive disorders, but unfortunately I don’t have proper insurance right now to pay for some medications. but I ask because I received my instant shine, and I sprayed it on me once, then twice, and three and four times and I didn’t feel a thing, but it was pretty obvious the affects on others, which were great but I didn’t feel a thing. The same with instant sexiness I bought, I dont get anything out of it.

Hi immaculate … I’m not a physician by any stretch but my laymen’s opinion would be that your not feeling immediate effect is entirely plausible & especially dependent on the ‘depth or breadth’ of the depression you feel. Your post indicates that the effects on others is evident. Is it possible that over time, self effects may kick in ? or that others reflections of the ‘new’ you back to you can result in your beginning to exhibit a more positive outlook ? I’m not sure the IS series is a good thing to use initially but am confident the ladies can provide mo betta information.

Hi,

I’m new here and totally new to all this, but my experience has been this: only people with bipolar disorder, known or even undiagnosed, have responded to me when I’m wearing pheromones. Unipolar depressives (people with ONLY depressive episodes and not manic ones as well) do not respond at all. I’ve even done a few little experiments that back this up 100 percent of the time! Weird, huh? But fascinating and worth some research, I think…

I’m diagnosed mildly bipolar and notice pretty dramatic self effects when using pheromones. I even became super depressed when I use IFM as some men do.

A woman’s biochemistry is very much different from a man’s though.

This is a really interesting discussion :slight_smile:

It would seem logical to me that someone who is severaly depressed would not respond well to phero’s just because of the nature of the disease itself; severe depression causes symptoms such as lack of energy, motivation & interest in things that the person would normally enjoy, as well as very low mood. It would take A LOT to affect a person like that.

I do however think that phero’s can have a positive effect on individuals with moderate or mild depression, and anxiety. My flatmate suffers from both anxiety and depression, and I have noticed a big difference in her whenever I wear CTTM2 or IH around her. The CTTM2 mainly boosts her mood and makes her more chatty in general, whereas the IH makes her talk about the more emotionally heavy things that she’s struggling with.

I haven’t tried Instant Shine at home yet, but I will just to see how it affects her.

I have a feeling that some of the phero’s that people report as slightly sedating could possibly have a beneficial effect for anxiety…

May I ask if you’re taking a bipolar (mood-stabilizer) medication? I neglected to mention that when I wasn’t being treated for my bipolar, certain scents would “set off” manic or depressive episodes with a BANG! I’m talking major alcohol drinking, or wild COMPULSIVE spending or cleaning or sex sprees when I was manic, and major, unexplained sadness during a depressive episode. The problem scents I narrowed it down to were pheromones in my 2 favorite perfumes: “Allure” by Chanel, and “Youth Dew” by Estee Lauder. I’m sure there are hundreds of other seemingly “innocent” perfumes that could do it as well. So neddless to say, not a day goes by without my Lamictal! The wrong pheromone to an untreated bipolar person can, in my opinion be CATASTROPHIC, financially, physically, and emotionally. Also, major stresses, good or bad, can set them off; Death of a loved one or pet, childbirth, divorce/marriage, Xmas holidays, job loss, school change in children, a move, etc. You just really have to be on the lookout for the signs of manic or depressive episodes coming on in yourself, and tell your doctor you need a dosage adjustment in your med, or get ON a med if you’re not already. It can make the difference betwee a happy life or a hellish one!

I’m confused…are you saying smells and perfumes in general can trigger manic or depressive episodes, OR are you saying pheromones do? :confused:

Unless you added pheromones yourself to the Chanel or Estee Lauder perfumes, there are no pheromones there…

Actually, I think the perfume manufacturer adds some type of pheromone to the product. Intentionally or not. But I’m sure they’ve done their research into what ingredients to add to their products to make them “hits”. Or maybe there are naturally ocurring pheromones in certain perfume oils. I’ve read that before. For instance, lavender oil is supposed to be calming, another is supposed to be stimulating, another “sexy”, etc. There has been some research into this; I would have to go back and Google it.

Not offendingly, it seems that you like copy/paste, so :

“Are there pheromones in Allure and Youth Dew ?”

I’m sceptical…I’m sure there are some aphrodisiac properties to essential oils, but as far as I know pheromones are naturally produced by humans (and animals, though slightly different to the human ones), but I’ve never heard of plant pheromones…Does anyone know??

I doubt the perfume companies would put pheromones into their perfumes without advertising it though, and there are no pheromones on the lists of ingredients of standard perfumes…

I have tampered with the idea of instant shine to lift myself from poorer mental states, and the positive results are unfortunately fleeting, but some people may have more susceptible emotional systems than I. After 10 minutes, my mood was back where it was regardless of pheromone or dose. Even 500-1000mcg spaceland doesn’t do much to fix a bad mood in my experence.

I also take lamictal, it’s by far the best option. I’ve tested pheromones both on and off different meds and haven’t noticed a difference in their effect.

Not sure – like I said, it’s just been my experience with those 2 perfumes. Maybe certain perfume oils just have similar effects to pheromones? Or maybe the manufacturer does indeed add pheromones, and just lists them as “other ingredients” or simply “fragrance”? I wouldn’t put it past them, because it’s a billion-dollar industry, and I’m sure the perfumerers are familiar with pheromones. Marilyn Miglin even sells a perfume called “Pheromone” that’s been around a long time and has quite a devoted & enthusiastic following on the Home Shopping Network. Like I said, it’s worth some investigating. Another perfume worth noting that I just remembered – “Clean” from the Home Shopping Network makes me very drowsy, like I’ve taken a sleeping pill, almost. Maybe it has lavendar oil in it, because research has proven that lavendar has a sleepytime effect to it. Johnson & Johnson even sells a baby lotion and nightime baby bath product with lavender scent that they claim makes infants sleep better.

Yes its called Pheromone but it dosnt contain pheromones. Its just the name they choose for the product.

Yes there is. Many EO’s signal a self effect in the wearer. Molecularly some are similar to Pheromones. They generally dont have as strong as a reaction as Pheromones do though. EO’s are better for influencing the self where as mones are better for signaling others.

No as far as I know there isnt but there are EO’s in them that can evoke emotion.

This is weird, Why would just people with mental issues respond to mones. Really makes no sense to think that only people with mental issues respond to outside stimulus. Perhaps its just that its easier for you to see a person with such conditions respond because their reactions can be more pronounced then others.

Anyways…

Mones here are used to enhance not to treat medical conditions. If your hoping to use mones to treat a medical condition you will be disappointed with the products because its not there function.

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Pherin is a well known chemical company that is leaning more towards mone use for various medical purposes. In the future you may see things of this nature. Androtics falls under cosmetic enhancements.

So while this is a interesting area of Pheromone technology its not the direction Androtics is researching so we cant really give you definitive answers in this area.

Tisha

aromathery is very useful and very strong when using essential (nonsynthetic) oils.

unless tied to a specific trauma, they are very positive.

pheromones too for the most part are positive (unless one clashes with you personally).

here using oils or pheromones to even subtly alter mood with depression present is at best unstable.

there isnt going to be a significant amount of “objective” hit-watching , and both pheromones and essential oils can be extremely subtle…

so much so that i find myself whistling WITH the ones i am trying to affect :roll_eyes:

if you can imagine things like diet,lifestyle,atmosphere, floridated water, ect., playing a part in ones chemistry…
therefore “muddying-up” the glasses through which we are trying to view hits…
then you will see years could be spent trying to get consistant hits with consistant pheromone dosages.

thats why alot of here are very health concious as well.