Beating the alpha - FE's Journal

Well well. Finally got my set of pheros after reading these forums for two years. I then thought to start a journal of using mones :slight_smile:

**Statistics

**- 19 year old man, very skeptic but openminded
- Finland
**- **The aim is to raise opportunities to meet new women and get rid of my “Wingman of the century”-title.At the same time have fun and learn more on mones.

**Pheros I’m using

****- **TUTH

  • Ammo
  • IS (2x and standard)
  • IG
  • IO
  • P75
  • P91

First touch

Ultra fast delivery from the States to my front door. Like 3 days! I was so excited that I laughed to myself like a little girl lol. Planning to use first time when going to hairdresser. Scent of these are fantastic.

I read a alot about application points and amount of mones, but still feeling a little bit lost. Well I started small and put 1 spray of Ammo to neck and 1 spray of the IS to behind ears. I felt extremely good and happy mainly because IS imo.
Well got to the hairdresser and sat down. Just chatted about where to cut and how much, basic stuff. Then about 5min silence and I was thinking to myself that again normal visit at the hairdresser: just cut and go. Surprisingly, she asked: “Did you watch the olympics?” Well nothing special about that, but she first asked that where are next olympics? Well then talked about how there (South Korea) can be Winter Olympics…
After all this, she asked: “Where are the next Winter Olympics?” I lol’ed in my head and we keep small talking. That didnt last very long but I was happy anyway. She did her job very nice and was touching my hair, cheeks and ears a lot, more than usual. I do notice also that I am aware of everything girls does and that might make me think some things are from the mones when they really aren’t. Anyway very pleasant experience.
Also men where very chatty and got good service almost every shop I visited. Some old fellow started to crack a joke at the stairs :roll_eyes:

Bar Environment

Friday night and perfect situation to spray some mones and go to have fun. Well got to friend house and there we drank some alcohol and chatted. I planned to wear mones at the time we would leave to the night life.
Went good but my biggest mistake came here. One of mine friend is alpha and very good one. He doesn’t even know it himself what he does “right”, just gives it a laugh and just meets new ladies on every weekend. Told him about mones and gave him same amounts what I used at the hairdresser.
I pissed of to myself that I actually gave him mones and put a way too much on myself. Like 4 sprays of Ammo and 2 sprays of IS and TUTH. Well things started to collapse here. First a friend of mine came to visit us. She had a terrible evening and was kinda tilted. She got very angry to me eventhough I didnt say anything offensive or so. At the time my alphafriend got all the attention. Situation broke when ladie left saying: “Here smells too much aftershave”.

Well we left to the bar and same things continued. My friend got all the attention and I was total air to all the girls. You know what we were sitting at the corner and I was closest to the wall. Well then some random girl came and sat down in front of my alphafriend :angry: Claimed that her own friends are so weard that she needs to talk to someone else. Didnt recognize any IOIs from anyone at the bar.

Conclusion

Not very pleased how things ran out but it was all my fault. Next time I’m the only one using mones and right amounts. The hairdresser-visit vas very nice so I think mones have some kind of effect. If someone has any details how much to use and specific application points I would be very pleased to get some advice :slight_smile:

And if I said something funny let me know. Haven’t used english for a year so I’m little bit rusty atm.

Same situation - Same results

The funny thing here is that I noticed IOIs from men :confused: All the man-bartenders are very friendly and talkative. One asked me when I was ordering that have I been fishing lately? And yes he didin’t mean in that way. Also many men have been come to me and started conversation. More than usual. Can’t really complain but I’m looking here some reactions from ladies.

Have to experiment more. Planning to order Instant Jerk or Instant Openess if nothing interesting happens soon.

This weeks plan

Okay tomorrow is some kind of special Wednesday at the local night club and I’m thinking to go just for fun. It’s holidays here so there should be more people than usual. Ammo + TUTH

Weekend I’m hosting a house party. Not very high expectations but we’ll see about that. A few ladies from our floorballteam attending. I’m the goalkeeper so haven’t talked to them much. Ammo + IS (TUTH if going to bar later)

Wednesday cancelled

Well this had happened many times with guys that we talk alot doing something and when is the time to leave everybody says no. Well situation was fine by me. Thinking myself that at least saved some energy to weekend and money ofc.

Friday evening/night (long story but this is great place to open up about what happened. Hope you understand :slight_smile: )

You know the feeling when you’re hosting a house party and some girls are attending? Had total rage at cleaning my house up but I succeeded quite well I think. I left the house to buy some drinks with the boys. Only problem was that we spent too much time and the girls called when I was still driving back to home saying, that they would be ready to come. I gave to myself half an hour to go to shower and most importantly put some mones on me.

Ended up putting 2 spray Ammo to the chest/neck + 2 spray Instant Shine (2x) to my hair and 1 spray of Turn Up The Heat to the chest, lower than Ammo though, under my shirt.

Well clock was around 7:30 pm when girls arrived. My face was like :angry: because had so big rush and I have this “red face”-syndrome when sweatting/blushing. Bit of a rough start but I know to laugh to myself :stuck_out_tongue:

I or probably nodoby hadn’t drunk any alcohol at the time so atmosphere was kind of funny. Girls where chatting at the living room and boys (Me + alpha + his brother) where just randomly walking at the kitchen. “Panic” settled when we opened a couple of drinks and joined the girls.
Some small talk: “How u doing?”, and other basic stuff. I thought it would be great time to do something together and suggested some drinking game. Also would get closer to the girls and give to the mones best possible circumstances to do their job :cool:

Well people started to get more drunk and it was obvious that there was alot of talking and even some sexual tense. I was sitting next to the most “active” girl (or what is the opposite to shy?). She grabbed my arm a couple of times but I think it was nothing special. Two of my friends also joined here so there was now 3 girls and 5 guys. About midnight here.

Well here my alphafriend took his stand and got all the attention from that active girl. They actually left to the sauna. I guess they wanted to have some “private time” :wink: “What the heck he’s doing right every single time?” I thought in my head. Actually his brother took Imo the most unintelligent one of the girls to the sofa but I wasn’t paying so much of attention. You know this had happened many times :frowning:

I stayed at the table where we had drinking game. Added 1 spray Ammo and 1 spray Instant Shine. My other friends joined and the last of the three girls was also there. Sitting about in front of me. She was the driver and wasn’t drinking at all. Most shy one of all. I offered some non-alcohol drinks and she looked pleased. Boys started to speak about army-stuff and I instantly noticed that driver doesn’t have really great time. In general still didn’t pay alot attention to any of the girls. About 2am here

I left the table when conversation started to dwindle. I though to see what’s going on between alpha and the active one. Well apparently they just wanted to chat without others listening and I asked permission to join. They said yes and joined them. I have no clue what we talked about but anyway it was very short. The girl from the sofa came to the door and sayed that the driver is falling to sleep. Remember what I said about she having not so great time? Alarm bells started to ring in my head :open_mouth:

At the same time my other friends thanked for the night and left. Well I instantly went to chat with the driver. Added here again 1 spray Ammo and 1 Spray Instant Shine. We took some nice and somewhat private place from the living room and started to talk. I was completely amazed. I want to point out here that yes I had drunk alcohol but wasn’t too drunk. Anyway she was so adorable :slight_smile: Felt some itching from my belly because this was total awesomeness. We just kept talking and talking. Even some physical action like poking and touching. She was very shy but opened up very quickly. You can’t even imagine how much some great conversation means to me. I’m still smiling here because that was so great. Shyness just made her looking extreme cute in my eyes.

Some lines from her:

“I would’t have believed to meet a person like you”
“I never have talked with anyone this long”
“I never have talked so deep things with anyone before”

At some point I said: “We should guarantee that this conversation will continue in the future” She smiled and I we changed our phone numbers. And here is the sickest thing: I found out that she had dumped two other guys in the past. So I am first to even get her phone number!! Because of mones?

Extra notes

You know when girls left it was 8am :smiley: Slept almost to next evening and when I woke up felt devastated when realized that the ladie had gave me a call. Called her back but she didn’t answer. After like 30mins she texted me back that her phone had gone crazy and “apparently called to you also :slight_smile: and now I can’t call to anybody”

Well this means that she is telling the truth and that is what really happened or that she wanted to open the “chat-chain” with me. She sent txt and whatsapp-messages. Because of mones?

Summary

I’m still not 100% sure does mones have here some kind of role? But if I get to see her again and this time without alcohol and perhaps even “more” I definitely own big thanks to mones :slight_smile: Anyway Ammo and Instant Shine works! Just have to have correct timing and atmosphere.

Nice report and kudos on the phone number!

Don’t overdo it on the Ammo - I know it’s temtping to add more during the night, but you were wearing 12,5 mcg androstenone by the end of the night. That’s quite a lot if you’re only 19!

Haha thanks! :slight_smile: You know I think this was the first time in four years when I’m getting even this far. I just suck in the early stages of a relationship (building rapport for example)

Well I read about that Instant Shine dies out about in two hours and Ammo in six hours. The “evening” lasted about 13 hours so I think OD wasn’t so likely here. Also I’m still newbie so I want to see first some extreme results, which I did in fact experience like I repoted earlier. “Better too much than too little” :cool:

Some jitters

Well apparently it seems that my theory about she callin’ me “accidentally” is true. We have been chatting every day since got eachothers numbers. And like I said we play floorball in the same team and I’m the goalkeeper. Put like 2 sprays of Ammo (one to the neck, one to the chin) just in case we would have some time to discuss and so on. But it went horrible wrong: didin’t even say to her “Hi!”. Funny thing here one guy who is attacker just immediately started to talk with me when I came from the locker room. Didin’t even know his name and we had talked none in the past. Wish I were gay mones seems to effect on men more lol :stuck_out_tongue:
Well I told afterwards to the girl that I feel absolute sick that I was so bashful that I didin’t have the courage to say something. She took it very well and also said that she’s as shy as I am. Noticed some glancing from other side of the room but I could tell the role of mones was very limited here.

Freerolling

Naturally I should in some point make a move that this doesn’t stay just in chatting on phone. Took some own time and went to ice fishing. So great to just completely empty your head and return rational thinking. Thought myself that weekend would be great timing to suggest some kind of activity together.
Well the opportunity came from the bushes and frankly I said that “We should fix the error which occured when we where playin’ floorball” She replyed that after she has finished some test at school and when I have time :cool: This means like after a another week we would meet eachother. Well this didin’t bother me: people have their own lives and I appreciate that.

Then the bomb landed. Friend of my who invited the girls to the party find out that this girl is interested on me: she’s just too scared to make a move. Small chance that he is kidding but really don’t think so. Also knew that she had been looking me but just couldn’t help herself and say something :o This is the most weard situation ever! I am totally freerolling here. If I don’t scew everything up this should be a done deal. I don’t have to guess million times what she’s thinking about me and don’t have to write down here theories :smiley: “Knowledge is power”

Things escalating

Well after that felt like volcano which is just erupted. Tried to stay cool and continued the chatting on phone. Found out that she’s into Zumba-dancing and all of sudden she asked me to join her :confused: This just didin’t make me happy. I know that asking me to join her must have been very tough and I don’t want to give the impression that I’m not interestedin seeing her. But realistically “first date” in Zumba class? Just doens’t work out. Silly me actually accepted after some thought but then she said that “You don’t have to come if you don’t want to” Then she said that she might be able to drive to the city centre before that Zumba. Here I realized the situation and asked if she would be happy to join me for maybe a cup of coffee. She accepted :slight_smile: In the morning I apologized for the hassle over the Zumba.

So things changed from meeting after a week to meeting today. Yes I know it’s kind of boring to go to the coffee shop but why to risk when I’m totally freerolling here? Well not going to the movies with her that’s just horrible in the beginning of a relationship. I’m kind of active guy and like to try some new stuff that’s why I accepted to join her in the Zumba in the first place :smiley: Maybe in some point I might but not now.

Planning to use 2 spray of Ammo and 2 spray of Instant Shine :cool: Wish me luck!

Couple of things come to mind:

  • Locker rooms are packed with body odors and hence naturally produced pheromones- probably not the best place to use these products effectively
  • Mones don’t affect men more. Just assume they affect the girls in the same way, they’re just not letting it show. Do you always talk to the girl you consider the hottest? I think not..
  • Androstenone sticks on your skin, so even after 13 hours it’s still there. Careful for buildup
  • Don’t apologise too much to her - it’s beta. Maybe as she’s shy you’ll get away with it, but in general apologetic behaviour makes you look insecure. Last thing you want around women..

Good luck!

I meant that if I had a chance (Note: You should make a situation happen and not hope for one to happen… but I’m not that good) to have a little talk before we had our training then it would be good to have some mones on. After it doesn’t make a difference since I sweat alot because of heavy equipment. If you are not familiar with floorball think like ice hockey. I’m not that crazy to belive that mones will have effect under all those stuff goalkeeper has on :slight_smile: And also the time that other players are near me is very limited.

Ofc I’m aware of this. Just tried to crack a little joke but didn’t succeed :frowning:

Thanks for advice :slight_smile: OD with TUTH was just terrible. Lost a friend becuz of that. Hard to say anything more since I don’t (yet) have any other mones than those three :roll_eyes:

Well this is because we are different. When I’m reading your journal you seem to be a complete badass with women :smiley: And that’s good for you. I know I have a BIG self-esteem problem but proper way to fix it is to have some good experiences. My first plan was just to get some education and focus on women like after 5 years or so. Then decided to give mones a try and now we are here :cool:
She is saying “Sorry” many times to me and I dont mind it. It kinda affects on me also. And I like to talk straight. If some thing bothers me I wanna apologize for it.

Thanks for comments, appreciate it :slight_smile:

Some good vibes and BIG OD
(If u dont wanna read this long story, see the last chapter :slight_smile: )

Havent posted in a while, because I still have only those three mones and it’s kind of useless to write about using them over and over again. Trying to find correct amounts and correct application points. Based on what has happened I must say this stuff must have some role in things. Only problmen is, that I’m using mones wrong.

A couple weeks ago a friend of mine gave me call. I was little surprised because we haven’t seen eachother in like half a year. Of course that means we must have a drink or two. He also has a girlfriend. They have been together like 4 years and I had met her before. She is very funny and we have had some great times together in the past.

Okay the evening started that I went playing some poker with other dudes. Put 3 Ammo and 3 IS on. They were only males so just putted on for laughs and some good cologne

So about 4h and it was time to hit the bar. Pur group had like 6 people combined and we sat down. It was sunday and the drinks where very cheap so that meant a lot of alcohol in short period of time. Went to the bathroom to apply more mones. And I put like 6 Ammo 6 IS and 2 TUTH combined during the night. I sat next to the girl all the time and we where kind of flirty. Obivous I’m not trying to hit her at all. I respect the “bro-code” if you know what I mean. Anyway all of sudden she put her leg on top of mine. I found that kind of odd and she said to her boyfriend like “Look I found a resting place to my foot”. After that she wanted me to give her company while she smoked. It was freezing outside and warmed her up a little After that nothing special and it was time to go home after little while. The sickest thing came here: I was about to leave and she immedialety gave me a hug and kissed me to the cheek And all of this in front of her boyfriend! Luckily he understands and we are still good friends.
As a side note heard that other guys at the table where very jealous to me…

Another situation happened week after this. Again friday and obvious trip to the bars. Correct amounts I dont remember, but something around 3 Ammo 3 IS 1 TUTH This time it was clear that I’m going to be a wingman. And kind of I dont mind it. I’m the best there is. Its weard I cant control own womenbusiness but I can help others and almost every time it’s have been success. First went to some pub and just waited for the ladie of my alphafriend (still remember? ). She came and almost instantly started to needle me about things what happened at my house party. I laughed and needled back. She was very tilted about that (= IOI).

Well she left and said that she’s going to the dancebar which in this case is like “meat counter”. We had a deal among the boys that we are not anymore going to there, but decided to give a fuck for it The girl was surprisingly just standing outside. We gathered there and at this point my alphafriend just frozed completely. He didn’t say almost anything so conversation was between me and “his” girl. I just kept needling as much I could and tried to be as good wingman as I could. It seemed to work because she just stand here with us like 30min. And it was freezing outside. And her own friends where waiting for her. So she kept standing here because of my alphafriend (= IOI).

Well we hit the place and still alpha was just too scared to do anything. I hit the bathroom and put some totally ridiculous amounts of mones. Like 8 Ammo 5 IS and 5 TUTH. We hit the dancefloor and here things started to get very weard. The girl pulled me to the dancefloor very strongly and guided me behind her. My hands slipped a little bit to his hips and she seemed to like it. Well again alarmbells started to ring here and remembered my friend. It’s against the bro-code to try to hit pals girls. Grabbed some drinks and gave my friend a “speech” that it’s his time to make some moves. That girl was so turned on. I was all the time the captain at the table and at the dance floor. We went back to dancing and here just put my wingman-role to the max. I blocked other men trying to reach our group (3 girls 3 men). At it worked like charm! Well im kind of tall so physicall adventage is on my side but still it was so sick. At the sime tried to guide my friend and the girl together. And finally when DJ played some music where you can dance “slow” it succeeded. Immedialety hit the doors to grab my jacked because I understood that they might want some privacy.

Some of you might be like “wtf he is trying to mess around others business” but nonono. Almost all is just going with flow and checking out the body language of the girl. Alpha was just speachless after the night because of the help I gave. Anyway I had totally insane amount of mones and didint notice any OD. So is this just snake oil? Anyway we kept needling outside and the girl gave me a “bitch lap” It was nothing. So hot and perfect. If there wouldnt be that alphafriend I would have no problem of hitting her. Sweet dreams…

Well story doens’t end here. A couple of days ago it was again friday. This dynamic of here is just sick. Me, my bff and his big brother. Then the girls, which two of them are sisters together and the third is their bff. So a alot of talking behind the scenes or so.. Anyway we had again the plan to have some fun together. Gathered together to have some drinks before bar. At this point I used mones “right”. Had like 3 Ammo 3 IS and 2 TUTH. Nothing special here. When the time passed two of my friends had already some closer connection and touching. I hadnt even spoked a word in this point with my ladie. Well after some time and alcohol had the courage to speak (lol?). Just normal stuff. Almost like I am friendzoned here? She doesn’s show any body language to encourage me and the topics we are discussing are just like bffs where talking.

Well time to hit the bar. I had a little while an idea to pass. Then my ladie came and asked, am I going to join them. She was the driver again so she didin’t drank any alcohol. Laughed and said if I would get the front seat :stuck_out_tongue:
Naturally other dudes automatically went to the back seat… Felt ok in this point.

Ok maybe now I get to the main point. Hit the bars and had some drinks. Girls pretty quick wanted to go to dance. I joined but other boys just disappeared :open_mouth: So there was me and those 3 girls. Lol I was the captain of the dance floor! Felt like god for a minute. Then boys returned and had some shots. Hit the bathroom to add mones, because last time putting more them didin’t hurt at all. I dont remember correctly, but this time put like 3 Ammo and 3 Instant Shine and 2 TUTH. Went back to the dancefloor and there we danced again. Then again the other “couples” went having some closer physicall action. They all just stared down me like DIHL because there was me and the girl. Ok got the message and even sayed it at loud that “Yes yes I get it u can stop it now” Hugged the girl behind and like 5secks had true awesome feeling. Then disaster strikes!!! She very firmly grabbed my arm and moved it away from her body. I was totally devastated. What the fuck I did wrong here? Something snapped in my brain. When dance ended I just hit the bartender and ordered a shot. Drank it very fast and walked to the door to grab my jacket and leave. This was just a huge error :frowning::frowning: I dont know I was so tilted. Just when I was putting my jacket on the girl of the alpha rushed to me asking where I was going. Almost said to her why but then my girl grabs my arm and says “heyhey dont go”. I wasn’t listening. I just blow everytime my even tiny chances like this. Shouted to the girls at the door that “Im not interesting in of this spoof” and just ran away.

Walked to the shore and just collapsed mentally. Started to cry like little baby and had some thoughts to jump from the bridge. AGAIN all this shit was my fault. When I was little calmed down I answered my phone. There had been like 10 calls before I answered. There was that mine girl. She had run after me saying things I missunderstood. When she arrived just spread my hands to hug her. We hugged like 45min and I just cried and complained. Her jacket must have been wet hoho. I thought those feelings occur only in movies but it was supertouching. Kept saying to her that can’t even discribe how important to me is that she is there. She is the best thing what has happened in my life at this point. After we got tired just standing hit the bench near by. Noticed here that she had cried also. That thing she moving my hands off from ther body, she said something it wasn’t the thing she ment or so. Because overuse of mones?? :angry:

Well it was very cold outside and she was shaking. Decided to go back to the car. Just drove to a random place and sat there. Well there we just sat so close together as u could when you are still having seat belts on lol. Some big hand/finger action and it was sooo sweet. She said that “this is completely new to me” with a little shaking voice. She was shaking physically also. Maybe becuz she vas cold but I really dont think so. After a while friends called me and the situation broke there. Drove back where we left and when my friends were waiting to get some food from the grill just hugged the girl behind all the time mainly because I wanted her to feel warm.

All in all everything settled nicely but still I’m not convinced. Talked with her about what happened and this should be okay now. I’m just totally lost right now. What to do, where to go, and so on. Atmosphere at our chat is not at the level as it used to be so I feel just absolute sick to myself. I’m fuking too needy at the start and I blow my chances. I dont know what is the case here but lets see. Maybe I should just concentrate on other things first and come back to ladies when I know how to handle them :roll_eyes:

Thoughts about OD

So is it possible that my tilting is occuring because of overuse of mones? This total mentalrage has happened a few times after I started using these. I lost already one of my friends and now this. I’m not blaming the mones: if I use them wrong the results are wrong ofc. Just curious to know is this the case. And the last thing still. The girl here is supershy. Never met same before. Those more active girls went almost nuts when I had too much mones on but the shy one was just rejecting me.

Note to self: Use proper amounts of mones. The more the merrier isn’t always true.

Lets see I try to keep reports more shorter in the future. Planning to order some more mones soon. Next testing place is class room with all totally unknown people :cool: Next time when I see the girl I wear ony 1+1 mones or none at all.

Respect to all who read the whole thing. I cried when I wrote..

Alpha 1, Mones 0

Everything happens for a reason? I guess so. This girl just texted to me, that she wants to be just friends. Her timing does not make a lot of sense: We hadn’t chatted for like 5 days and then just suddenly puts that. Well this doesn’t surprise. I can’t even count how many times ladies have rejected me

And now what?

Well mones just backfired me here. They gave me a little confidence boost now all fell apart again. I don’t know what to do. Maybe just chill out and order some different mones? Just to make sure there aren’t just snake oil :stuck_out_tongue: I’m biggest optimist you can find so I’m not depressed. Hurts a little bit, but show must go on like they say :slight_smile:

Hey man, respect for writing such an extensive and detailed report.

Some advice: you’re using waaaaaaaay too much mones. By the end of that last Friday night you were wearing 25 mcg androsteNone - and I’m not even counting the extra eNone from the breakdown. This amount is a massive overdose, probably even for a 50-year old :open_mouth:

By the end of the night, the only (chemical) signal you were sending to the ladies was ‘I WANT TO FUCK YOU RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW!’ - no wonder she moved your hand away from her body.

It’s nothing personal. Look at it like this: she rejected your approach, she didn’t reject YOU. The mones OD wasn’t helping either, okay. Next time: I wouldn’t go above 5 mcg eNone to start with (2 sprays Ammo OR TUTH - the first one having my preference as it’s more balanced).

Also, I’d advice to read some basic PUA material. The mones are working, but if you don’t know how to capitalize on the hits you’re getting they will only make you more frustrated by your lack of game. Books I can recommend to start with: The Game (Neil Strauss), The Tao of Badass and The Definitie Book on Body Language. Good luck!

Don’t use that much eNone. there is 2.5 mcg eNone in each spray of Ammo or TUTH. Instead of eNone, use TAC and P75. Anything over 2 mcg eNone and over, women can turn on you unexpectedly.

Do a few sprays of IG. do a good 1/2 spray of TUTH from a 30 mil bottle, or get a bottle of experimone eNone at less than 2 mcgs/ spray. Do 1 spray. Then do lots of TAC and P75. They will balance each other out.

Yeah I know I made some mistakes with overdosing but I’m the kind of person who learns from them :stuck_out_tongue: Actually this is kind of fun. Some drama to my life. At least this is a warning to others that some not so happy results may appear if you dont “read the manual”.

Makes sense. Those more active and more confident ladies were lovin’ it what I was doing but that shy one didin’t. Some interesting things came out related to why the girl friendzoned me. I will report if something interesting happens :wink:

Actually I have that TAO already! :slight_smile: Never have read it properly though. The whole idea of learning how to hit ladies by reading some books just doesn’t feel very reasonable to me. Anyway I will look those through :cool:

Future plans

I’m thinking to order some more mones. Because the overuse even my big Ammo bottle is almost empty :open_mouth: Some other thing I will read more stuff on this forum and try to comment as much as I can :slight_smile:

Trade Catalogue

  1. IG+IH+IS+IO
  2. Ammo (Summer/World/Normal don’t know yet)
  3. P83
  4. P75
  5. Other? :confused:

OD again?

I will keep this short even once or at least try. Standard friday. This time I just used last drops of my Ammo. Like 2 or 3 sprays. I think even this is too much or for me.

I’m using mones usually around these same people so I want to make this simple to understand.

A = Ultimate Alpha, kind of bff of mine
B = A’s big brother
C = The ladie of the A
D = The ladie of the B

Well many of you are tempted to give me advice to hang around with different people. I know this. I even should. It’s funny how I act completely different if there’s alfa around. If I see that there’s only beta-people around I instantly feel and act like alpha :cool:

To the story: Normal friday night. Like I said used last drops of my Ammo. Watched some icehockey together (ABCD and me) and ofc some alcohol. Game ended (our team won \m/) and then just standard “home party atmosphere”. At some point I just felt very weard because C started tell me how I should live and how I’m embittered and how I’m just rolling in self-pityness :confused:

I wasn’t buying this at all and fired back with all cylinders. Then C said that I should be more discreet. After that D turned her back on me said: “It’s no wonder that nobody likes you!” :open_mouth::open_mouth:

Topic change: Improving life with mones :slight_smile:

Maybe C and D are right. Luckily that doesn’t mean that things can’t change. I’m just complete fed up with this. Yesterday were graduation party of C and D. There would have been also the girl who rejected me. Felt absolutely sick and didin’t participate any of the partyaction. More insult to the injury was when B showed some pictures from the parties. There was also girl who rejected me and damn she looked gorgeous…

Anyway I think this journal is more like a blog. I’m going to keep this like it. No more this bs which has occured the last 3-4 years. I can’t be that bad like C and D said. Every friend of mine is more succesful with women compared to me :angry:

IMO I will feel much more motivated when I write my goals. Even now in public. It’s summer here in Finland so alot of parties and some outdoor activities would be just around the corner but I want to solve my problems first that I can enjoy those awesome things max. Kind of live life to its fullest :cool:

I understand if I use mones wrong they wont work in the way I hope. I also understand that mones wont fix my problems. I understand many things here. Because of that now it’s the time to improve my life, stop being the wingman all the time!

To-Do-List

  1. Get fit (Not only for the looks, I noticed that I have eaten like a pig and that’s not a very healthy way to live.)
  2. Speak to someone about my experiences and problems. Maybe even hit some specialist. I just want to get of my selfpityness nad bitterness.
  3. Drop out most of the things that I dont really enjoy and focus on things which I really like. For example mones :slight_smile:
  4. Get the driver’s license. Everyday feeling that this is almost must-to-have.
  5. Make order of IS, IG, IO, Ammo Summer, P75, P83 and MX297 before midsummer festival.
  6. Be more active on the forums.

Back in business!

Have been inactive at the forums mostly because kinda lost the interest to study mones more properly. Felt like I’m focusing on the aerodynamics while I should be concentrating on the engine, if you know what I mean.

Anyway made an order about a month ago. That included Ammo, Tuth, P75, IO, IG, IS and as a freebie P91. I only have solid results on P75 and IG, but more on that later.

Some nice hits

Before I made that order I used all my pheros untill the bottles where empty. If you guys remember that girl who kissed me to the cheek in front of her boyfriend, thats awesome because she still appears in my stories :cool:

So had like one spray of TUTH and last drops of Ammo wearing on. To make this little shorter, I just say I ended up in a house party with that girl + one new one. Girls where trying to get my attention and that was very exciting and new to me! They actually wanted hug me and said many compliments.
At bar I was dancing with both of them same time :open_mouth: Sadly they are not single.

Well lets say three weeks after this the same circumstances where about to repeat. This time their boyfriends would be joining also. This time evening was little funny as we kind of ended up talking about very serious topics. Anyway I was the captain of the table and the conversation (P75/IG?). At some point girls wanted to go for smoke and I stayed at the table with the new girl who I just met three weeks earlier. She was saying how funny I am and other very nice words :slight_smile: Then she said “Give me a hug” and just hugged me very strongly. I just felt how he hugged me stronger (TUTH?) while I was very nervous if her boyfriend would see all this… In the end of the night this girl said to me “if I were a single I would kiss you right now”.
That was like the best night ever in several years eventhough nothing that special happened.

Future plans

After that there has been nothing. Kind of boring life. Just working and thats all. I have thought alot of my life and how I’m going to live it.

I’m still 19 but not happy atm. My physical condition has never been so poor as it is right now. My self-esteem is very low. I’m like 10kg overweight. I’m not studying right now because I didn’t pass the exams. At least I got my job so finance-stuff is in good shape.

So what all those means in practice? Firstly I’m not looking as good as I could and I know it myself. This causes my self-esteem to drop and both these combined makes me unattractive in the women’s eyes.

I’m trying to say that IMO while those things are fucked up I’m not getting everything out from mones neither. I’m not living life on its fullest and I’m wasting a lot of situations which would give me happiness and even possibly isolate me of not getting new friends for example.

I just don’t know why I’m not doing what I “supposed” to do? I should fix those problems and achieve a life that I want. When I’m old I’m hoping that I’m able to drop my artificial teeth into a water glass and think all the ladies I made love with and all the adventures I experienced… :cool:

But this is the first step that I even wrote this down, now thinking some serious actions and same time trying to use my new mones more and properly :slight_smile: