What I wear, say, and do during those 15 sec are everything.
This woman doesn’t leave oppotunity for longer time because shes a hostess whose into her work and busy.
What type of mone signature would have ANy benefit at all here? If you think none reconsider.. Some mones have potent self effects.. Also since 15 sec is all I’m playing with wearing something like IO can backfire as it gets a girl gabbing and by the time the 15 sec ride is over nothing but irrelavant gab has been uttered wasting precious time to close.
I don’t want a girl to gab during those 15 seconds. I am better of being prepared with something to say to close without interrupted on her part because she is so attracted.. get it so it has to be something (mone sig etc) that causes immense attraction and allows me to get her to focus on me during those 15 sec without being distracted as I speak to her.
Instant is just the name on the bottle, they are not really instant. Just like you dont really shine when you wear shine.
Usually people need to be exposed to the signal continuously for a few minutes before they even begin to process it. Then depending on the person it can take some time to process.
Now just because they process doesn’t mean they will react that second. That depends on what else is going on in their heads at the time. For instance when you see a hot girl your interested in for the first time I am sure you dont run directly to her that instant and react. You think about it a bit.
Your going to have to find away to lengthen time exposure time.
Wait a sec.. some mones are very good for self effects like p75.. Provided I wear some mones ahead of time self effects may hit me (more confidence, different posture , better focus), and increase my ability to perform during those 15 sec even if the woman is not reacting to the mones.. All i need to know is what to say to close within 15 seconds on a literally moving target (she walks from podium to table where I’m seated.. Process takes 15 sec and she walks fast and then moves to next customer).
Any mones which may improve MY focus in the moment so 15 sec feel like 60 min in terms of the time I have to act.. i.e. time slowing down due to complete relaxation , lack of anxiety, and confidence and poise? As well as a masculine , authoritative vibe..
I don’t know if any mones have ever worked within 15 secs for me but they usually don’t take minutes. Hell no. I’m sure they keep working and do better and better things over minutes and hours after initial exposure but I have certainly seen them have an effect within quite a short time range. Maybe not under 15 seconds but certainly well under one minute.
Well self effects are different for every one. Only you know what effects you and how long it takes. Self effects are not what you asked about though.
As far as knowing what to say… No one can really tell you word for word that either. We dont know her. I know your looking to close with her. I assume you mean either get her number or a date. You need to invest more time to do that. There is no magic phrase that works that quick and if she is working her mind is somewhere else.
I did say “usually” once in a while you may see a quick response but that may be from the combo of the mones and your other traits. 2 to 3 minutes is general to the population and yes the signal and response does get stronger the more they are exposed. You will find some people who process and react quickly but each person does that in there own time. Some more, some less. 15 seconds is just not gonna cut it and to tell you the truth if a guy tried to close that quick with me ( and they have) I would think he was creepy.
15 seconds is way too short a time to close. You want to get the gab going, because if she spares 30 seconds on you that’s space to drop an invite to chat more when she gets off shift. Ammo up, I’d say, with a little IO on the side, toss the invite to her, and play the game.
Edit: Or perhaps IH rather than IO - make those 15 seconds feel valuable to her too.
Oh, I didn’t realize he was talking about CLOSING in that time frame. I despise the whole PUA terminology overall but I guess the words come in handy to describe things here.
No, I meant that the mones usually catches a woman’s attention well enough in under a minute to get her interested (if she’s gonna be interested at all, that is).
I wouldn’t want a girl to be up for a date 15 seconds after I met her. Or on some occasions in some conditions I actually do want that but I don’t call such encounters dates and I’m not always happy about them afterwards.
You could try like a massive amount of Alpha Nol + Beta Nol (50 mcg each) or 10+ mcg of P75. P75 can literally envelope a small room quickly if you have on enough of it. You’d have to be in range of this girl and sort of close to her off and on over a period of time. You’d have to be seated at a table and have her exposed repeatedly as she walks by you over an hour or so. I’ve tried similar concepts with P75 combos and heavy amounts of IO. However, one, single brief exposure won’t do. You’ll need the additive effect of numerous small exposures. You need something with a large effective radius. The hits you receive may not be thoroughly favorable. It’s more an attention getter. The next best attention getter is about 10 mcg each of -eNone and P75. If you wear this to a bar, the servers and patrons notice in about 90 seconds or so.
P75 + P74 is also a quick hitter, but you’ll need to double the amounts I’d normally feel comfortable with. You’d need like 10 mcg of p75 and 40 + of 74. You’d also need to apply to wrists, neck, maybe even hair. You’d need literally a cloud of the stuff all around you, or some better way to enhance diffusion. Your problem is diffusion. Now, the reports I’m hearing about P130 literally escaping out the bottle…it makes me wonder that this stuff isn’t like diethyl ether. Surgeons used to get gassed on the stuff before they invented the ether mask. The vapor would fill a room. P130 is a rapid hitter for me. I think it’s getting a kick due to both vaporization and diffusion. I’m just throwing out some ideas. Somebody might know of a few minor putatives I’ve not used that have a low vapor pressure like P130. I keep reading report after report how this stuff escapes through sealed bottles. I’m thinking pherobomb possibilities.
Heavy pherobomb of TUTH/IJ or P75 (or both) with TAC? I personally haven’t tried it, but there are reports of such things. Just stirring the pot of ideas for you.
A bit unconventional and you’re probably not going to try this, everybody’s so stuck up with using masculine molecules. I’ve seen TAA hit within a few seconds, that with a bit of TAF and P91 or P93 can make a good impression on your target and leave an imprint on her mind.
She’s not around me man… She’s take a walk with me from podium to table which is seated 50 feet away.. She may bring customers into the vicinity at times but only for a few seconds until she’s gone again.
Now you say repeated exposures.. Well I have been talking to her for 6 months now for 15 sec at a time weekly everytime I go into the restaurant. But its just friendly talk.
I don’t have those mones Still is recommending.
I have only p75 IS AMMo tuth IO IH summer ammo etc.
I tried 5 mch of p75 to swiss chalet once and the hostesses who normally talk to me were very withdrawn and staying away.. If I’d talk to them from afar they would answer but run away doing their own thing.
I think i scared the daylights out of them with 5 mcg p75.. 2.5 mcg is my sweet spot. Swiss chalet is a humble establishement and family oriented.. I don’t want to offend too much.
If you use something like four sprays of IO on your neck, what results do you get? My point is that about 3-4 sprays of IO and IH together can have a pretty strong and quick effect if people are in proximity to the phero cloud. You might have to use even double that. You’d apply to your hair, neck, bare arms, etc. You’d need to cover a big surface area to promote diffusion. Big doses of Nol can work. I’ve used it on my hair. You’d need to be a walking pherobomb. The Beta Nol gives it some depth and attraction that might hit. That’s as good as it gets.
I agree. The straight TAA would probably have good diffusion. You’d (I think), dose your hair, arms, neck heavily. You’re right. I’ve used like 6-8 sprays of IShine. It’s pretty powerful. TAA would have more rapid diffusion than Shine. My experience has been that the shorter the duration of effects, sometimes the harder the hits come. Very volatile alcohol (ends in -ol) pheros could vaporize rapidly. It seems like P130 does this. Compare 80 proof Vodka vs. 151 proof spirits. Compare 70 % isopropanol vs. 91%. Think about how an open gas can creates a vapor cloud that’s really powerful. Diethyl ether does this. It’s like getting hit by chloroform. It’l flat knock your ass out.
IO gets me gab and I’m not even remotely a gabber so I don’t know what to say back…
if I do use 4 sprays IO and 4 sprays IH do you recommend I use Is, ammo, p75 too? Or just IO IH by itself?
I have tried IO IH IS AMMO p75 and nothing in short window.. I mean she does come to take me to the table, talks quickly back when I talk to her, but then i run out of what to say and the 15 sec ride is over. Do the mones hit during those 15 seconds.. they sure do because she is talkative. But Quite frankly I am getting frustrated because I am not pushing for the date and can’t with this small window, and because shes too busy to stick around and is not paying attention other than what task she has to do next (i.e. seat us then get to next customer). Its hi hello and some small talk and then racing off.
No the mones won’t work beyond those 15 sec because like I said she walks to the podium 50-75 feet away so she is out of range after she drops my friend and I to our table.
The more I think of it, the more I think a hefty amount of just IShine might work. Spray it on all reasonable application points. It has some attractive properties and space reduction. The Shine will have to allure enough to provoke more than just a hostess response. She has to like you enough to give you a chance. The Shine might tip the balance for her to say yes. Just use the Shine itself. I don’t think 15 seconds is enough to get that much from IH, and IO will only get some chattiness. Shine will make you look good and her more receptive. You’ll have to ask for the sale. You’ll have to ask for what you want: a chance to speak to her further outside work. It’s then the pheros will have a fighting chance.
Let her get a good whiff of the Shine signature. Visit again next time with that same sig. Hopefully, there will be an attractive memory that builds where she associates the ShineBomb with you and with pleasantness. It would help if you could repeat this sig. a couple times. On the third time, repeat the same sig. and ask for her number as she escorts you to her table. Since you lack duration of effects, your best shot is repeating a heavy sig. briefly on several customer visits spread over time. I don’t think the IO or IH will hurt. I just wonder that you’ll use so many sprays that you smell weird. The purpose of the Shine is a blast of good feelings, energy and space reduction. It does have a bit of a pied-piper effect that draws women and kino. I think your primary goal is this: When you ask for a #, she needs to see a very positive picture of you even though she’s never had time to even get your last name. It will be all about first impression. “Does this guy look good enough for a blind, harmless date even though I don’t know him.”
I’ve worn like 12 sprays all together of IO, IH, and Shine. It’s good, it just wreaks of neroli. Don’t waste your mones if you need that IO and IH later for a proper date. If you can get with her for 15 mins., IO/IH might get you a 2nd date.
Maybe wait till there is a few people ahead of you so you can linger near the podium a little. She will begin to inhale some then and when its your turn to walk to the table she will get it stronger.
Just gotta figure some way to linger and delay a little.
Sorry for the double post but do you have some IH. Once I wore a heavy dose of IH to the Outback… restaurant not Australia … and the host didnt leave our table till the manager came over and asked if there was a problem. I said no problems and before i knew it they both were telling me there life story. It was a lot though. I used 3 sprays of IH 4X
Truthfully, I’ve been known to stalk bartenders, baristas and store employees with Tisha’s tactic. Harmless stalking, mind you. I’d just make an excuse to buy stuff way too often. I wasn’t using mones then. Eat there every damn night if need be. Whatever you can do to lurk around her that few extra seconds each time. Don’t get creepy. When the time is right, just go for a short close. “You’re (hot, sweet, pretty, smart looking, whatever); When could we meet somewhere fun away from here?” If she says no, keep up the friendly customer bit and go for it again in several days or maybe a week or two. Hopefully, she won’t pull the boyfriend card or shut you down cold.
I have been using a self-mix of P75 (5mcg) added to an equal volume of P130 (also 5mcg), sprayed on to my left inner forearm. (I wear short-sleeved shirts at work). It seems to have been working very well on my target lady; lots of touching, leaning against me, flirting, and that’s just at work! It seems to be pretty quick hitting, but you’d need rapid diffusion. Maybe spray directly on to your ears (nice and warm)
… and the host didnt leave our table till the manager came over and asked if there was a problem. I said no problems and before i knew it they both were telling me there life story. It was a lot though. I used 3 sprays of IH 4X