I named this thread “between two worlds” because that is how I feel right now, and that is how I have felt most of my life.
I grew up in a middle class family in a lower-middle class town. My intelligence has always been above average to the point where doors have opened for me that are closed to others. However, because I come from a more humble background than the majority of others who have the same opportunities, I often find myself stuck between two worlds. I don’t have the rich parents to pay off my debts or to let me have a “year off” in Europe. I don’t have the connections to get a well-paying job right out of college without a demonstration of value. I don’t have a degree from a private school. I have been surrounded by people of that exact nature for the past few years and will likely be surrounded by them for a substantial part of my career. They have a leg up. In the past few years I have had to admit to myself that because of my background I have not been living up to my full potential. It’s not like I’ve just been skating by, I do have drive, but there is certainly more I can do.
This is where I am today. I want to change this. I can and will live up to my full potential whatever it may be.
Right now I’m struggling to find the type of employment I went to school for so instead I’m working a job in the lower service sector. Hopefully I will soon get some interviews and be able to use the tools that I was born with, the tools that I have developed, and now the tools that I have bought. Now is the time for me to test, sharpen, and use my tools.
I put on one drop of A314 on the back of my neck about 30 minutes before work today. I didn’t notice any self effects except that I drove my car a little harder than normal when I left. It could be that I was bordering on being late, however.
When I got to work one of the girls in her 30’s was noticeably quieter than usual. I started to ask her some questions about her son and at first she gave single word answers. Eventually I asked her what was wrong today and she said that she was tired. I assume this wasn’t a hit. I got her talking a bit more and eventually things weren’t so dull. Later she was leaving and forgot to say goodbye to me so I made a point of saying something like “goodbye and by the way I hate you” in a joking manner as she was walking out. I normally talk like this so it shouldn’t have been a problem, but she turned around and got closer to me to say “what?” I said, “Oh did that sound like ‘hate?’ I said ‘love’ I just stuttered a bit.” I then turned to the guys I was with and said “see how smooth that was? I fixed it.” Everybody found it funny. She seemed genuinely perturbed but I can’t chalk it up to A314 because she probably was tired.
Another girl I work with stood next to me, put her leg up on a table and started stretching her legs. Could have been a hit, but I have been messing a little with her head in the past week so I can’t say either way. I’m going to err on the side of caution and assume that it was not hit. It doesn’t make sense that such a low dosage would result in a positive hit to somebody I already am in regular contact with. There was also a slap on my arm and an accidental brush against me. It could be either A314, previous game, or both.
As I was almost leaving for home a mother and daughter came in and I thought that the mother was sending me signals. Too much direct eye contact for my personal comfort with an older woman and she kept calling me “honey.” As far as I know, it could just be her personality.
Overall, I’m not going to say that anything was a hit today. There were some IOIs, there is no doubt about that. I’m going to keep starting slow and work my way up.
I tried two drops of A314 today at work and I didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary from others. It’s my understanding that A314 will take up to a month for people you are normally around to start showing affects. I did notice that somebody said something negative to me and I took it more personally than I normally would and it put me in a depressed/aggressive mood for a while. This was around the 3 hour mark.
When I got home I sprayed some IS on the front my neck to see if I could feel anything. I didn’t notice any change in mood or a phero rush, so we will see…
I wore two drops A314 again today. I don’t think there was any difference in how others treated me, but I could be wrong.
I did notice some self-effects, though. When I put the two drops on I felt myself begin to sweat a little more, my body temperature seemed to rise and it felt like the blood pressure in my head went up very slightly for a few seconds. I noticed that my voice seemed a bit lower for an hour or two after application. Within that time span I had grandiose daydreams that I could pretty much do whatever I want in life (including beating out Peyton Manning for the starting QB job).
Tomorrow I head out to a football game. I plan on wearing some A314 and I might add a social like Ammo to see how things go.
I went to the football game today wearing two drops of A314 behind my ears. I haven’t seen most of these people in at least two months and some of them I have never met. A friend of mine who like to rub things in my nose (not really that great of a friend!) didn’t even approach any subjects that I would find objectionable. In addition, whenever I would discuss a similar subject he made an effort to steer the conversation away from any potential landmines that he would normally try to set off. I can’t be sure that it is the A314, but I sure hope it is!
Other than that I didn’t notice anything in particular, but I’m starting to enjoy the subtle effects of A314. One thing that I’ve noticed is that the A314 doesn’t necessarily last that long on me. I don’t know if it lasts longer than 3-5 hours, but it doesn’t seem to. If I get any “hits” after the 5 hour mark it feels like it is because I already have a few people viewing me in a dominant or semi-dominant role.
Unfortunately, I must admit that I am especially shy when I am outside of my comfort zone. Cold-approaching men or women is something that I am not good at and I avoid for the most part. I need to work on this. There is no reason for me to act this way in a friendly environment. A confident hello works for others and it should work for me. Being shy both undermines any congruence and it works against me socially.
I have been wearing 2 drops of A314 and sometimes one or two sprays of IH and/or AMMO depending on the situation.
I didn’t think that the A314 was really doing much with the people I was already in contact with, but I realized that I have been viewing possible results and it just didn’t click. For instance, at work I thought of a more efficient way to complete a process. Instead of asking if we should do things that way and getting turned down like would usually happen, I took it on my own initiative to implement the cost-saving measures and only later told people. A few days later the owner approached me and said that we are going to be doing X my way now. I can’t help but think that this is a combination of self-effects and A314’s effects on others.
I had an opportunity to open with some really gorgeous women at a social event, but I lost my opportunity because I didn’t act fast enough. I need to step things up in this area.
Today I wore two drops of A314, one spray of IS and two sprays of Ammo. I’ve been trying to get a few hot customers to get a nice whiff of Ammo for the past few days, but it hasn’t happened yet. What has happened, however, is that some older customers that I deal with have given me less in tips. I can only assume that my phero signature has impacted me negatively. Without a definite target in mind, I am going to toss Ammo out of my work mix and focus more on A314, IH and IS. I also ordered some IO and MX301 (I think, can’t remember, lol). I might use some IG in place of A314 for a day or two so I can prevent A314 oil buildup.
I have also noticed a little bit of hostility from one of the females that I work with. She has been queen bee for the past 10 years. I am going to assume that her hostility is directed towards my A314 use and she suddenly sees me as a threat. It could also be other things, but she has been giving me dirty glances and the dreaded “stink eye” for a few days now. I guess it is just too bad for her!
As I indicated in another thread, I have been having heartburn issues. I think that it is related to post-nasal drip. Tonight I will start with some herbal teas to try and stop things and I will probably continue tomorrow as well. I am also going to start taking some Vitamin C. If push comes to shove I will even try a Neti pot. I will see how things work out.
Yesterday I went with just two sprays of IH to work. I tend to always have an open personality, but I found myself saying “that reminds me of a story” more than often. I normally say that 3-4 times a night, but this time I must have said it maybe 12 times.
Later in the evening I had a more in depth conversation with another person about what exactly is dysfunctional at work as well as his plans to start a similar business after he gets enough money. For purposes of posterity, it should be noted that he is a homosexual still in the closet (except for a few people at work, of which he has not told me).
I also went to the health food store and bought numerous items including a liquid crystal deodorant, salt baths and a netti pot. I was influenced by a few posts around here talking about salt based deodorants and salt baths and the like so I hope this works well. I told one or two people at work that I’m going to try a different deodorant. I told them that if I start to smell bad they should give me a heads up. I plan on spraying some IS and AMMO under my pits along with the deodorant so I can ask for their opinion!
The Netti pot was used last night, it burns me. It might be the salt that I am using, but I do not find the feeling pleasant at all. I still have a little bit of a headache and now it is mid-morning the next day. Yikes.
I also had a salt-bath in the PM with Eucalyptus scented salt. It was nice, but I can’t think that there is enough salt in the water to kill bacteria that contribute to a BO stench. Hopefully the spray deodorant has a high enough concentration to inhibit/kill the growth of such bacteria.
Well, I went sans deodorant today. Well, I at least went with the plan and wore the salts, plus AMMO and IS in my arm pits. I also wore two drops of A314.
I think I am going to stop using shine at work. There is a coworker that I was not on speaking terms with started to get friendly with me. His personality is grating (he purposefully antagonizes others) and I find it more peaceful when I don’t have to deal with him at all.
It was a good day, however, and some factory workers invited me into their cafeteria while persons from other companies were left waiting at the door (literally). This is the second time this has happened. I can only assume that the mones have something to do with this!
I took a few days off from playing with pheromones. I tried out MX301 with A314 a few days ago and I didn’t notice anything unusual. It was most likely the wrong forum for 301, based on other reviews. I’m not a party guy, so I will have to force myself to go out to a club sometime to see what happens.
Today it was three drops of A314. One under my nose, one on the back of my neck and one on the center top of my chest. I didn’t notice anything much except that I seemed more determined to get work done throughout the course of the day. Additionally, I gave a firm “no” in a situation that I would have normally said yes to. Unfortunately, I felt the need to explain myself to an outside party for validation. I need to stop that. There is also a coworker who I did not get along with for the past year. He is talking to me more and more. It could be time, but I am certain that pheromones play a significant role as well.
I have noticed that I cannot smell any of the scents or pheros after 4 minutes of application. My sense of smell has never been particularly keen, but it makes me curious how perceive my scent both consciously and unconsciously.
Key acquisitions in the past week include:
salt based deodorant
organic protein powder for use in the mornings
flax seed oil for use in the morning drink
maca powder (after reading the threads on maca)
I applied three sprays of Ammo on my chest today. I did notice that I got more in tips than usual, but I also wonder if my concentration was off. I stabbed myself in the thumb down to the bone with a very sharp knife and I’m still in pain. It was a small wound so nothing really had to be done except making sure that I bled enough to cover the wound. I really hope I didn’t hit a tendon.
I personally thought all the smell was done, but when I got home a family member commented on my scent (8 hours later). My nose isn’t as sensitive as others, so I think I might have trouble dosing correctly if I ever reapply. I’m also wondering if this will limit self effects. I previously believed that the VMO was responsible for phero responses, but upon reading some of the threads I was incorrect. My sense of smell may very well limit self-effects.
I have also been having protein shakes every morning. I have noticed that my acid reflux problems are starting up again. It is a disappointment to me. I hope to get that straightened out as well. I think in the next few days I will spray a bunch of stuff on myself and head to a book store or the mall to see what happens.
Also, I accidentally bumped into somebody (physically) today who I know to be homosexual. He made a comment like, “you aren’t trying to kiss me, are you?” in a sarcastic way. If I didn’t know any better he was trying to use game on me. I hope Ammo doesn’t attract other men…
Additionally, I started talking to a receptionist with the “don’t I know you from somewhere… were you my neighbor a few years back,” kind of thing. It’s a bit out of the ordinary for me to just start up some kind of conversation like that. Self-effects or the product of boredom. I’m guessing self-effects, but I don’t know. She was not attractive and too old for me, but I just felt like striking up a conversation.
Today I wore two drops of A314 on my jawline, two sprays of IS on the chest and two sprays of Ammo on the chest.
I received an oversized tip from an older woman (50’s, I’m guessing). It was a 60% tip. I’ll take that all day. The regulars who are stingy remained stingy. My boss was agreeing with everything I said today. I had some suggestions on how to do things. I made sure to say things like “We should do X this way…” instead of asking “should we do X this way?” I also changed my suggestion after he already agreed with me to see if he would follow. He did. When I asked for his plans on another project he stated his plans. I then looked at him without saying anything as if I had apprehension of his plan. He then changed his plans to something else. Overall I think the A314 is having some effects at work. It took a little while, but if this is just the beginning of Alpha dominance, I can’t wait to see how things are in a month!
I wore one drop A314 , two sprays of IO and two sprays of IS today. There weren’t any hits except near the end of the work day a customer mistook me for the owner. It must have been how the others were responding to me as well as how I was carrying myself. Tomorrow I have a day off so I plan on taking care of some personal business and hitting the mall.
I wore two sprays of IG to a friendly card game with a bunch of women last night. We all had a good time and quite a few jokes were flying around. Everybody was in a silly mood and the card games had to stop a few times because people were laughing so hard.
I also noticed that the girl sitting across from me had dilated pupils after a little while when she was looking at me.
I haven’t posted here in a week because I have not been wearing pheromones all too often and when I have things have been too busy.
Here is a quick summary of the past few days:
I wore two drops of A314 and one spray of Ammo to a friendly gathering where I was going to be alone with three women. All of them are already in LTR and I am not going to try and get anybody to cheat. They all have at least one hot friend (who doesn’t?) so I wanted to demonstrate some higher value/sexiness which explains my combo. I didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary except that one girl mentioned a friend of hers. I was hoping that she was going to try and set me up with her, but the conversation was steered in another direction.
In retrospect, outside the use of mones, I have conflicting thoughts about the use of “blind dates.” A blind date, to me, really doesn’t demonstrate my value from the get go. What kind of a male am I that I need women to set me up with their friends? Not an alpha male, that is for sure. However, there is a solution. Don’t go on blind dates. Simple enough. If a blind date or “you should meet my friend,” is ever mentioned, all I need to say is something like, “well, I’ve been kind of busy lately and I don’t want to start missing appointments. If her and I end up at the same party, that is great, but otherwise I can’t start making time for people I don’t know.” I’m not sure if this is the exact way to approach things, but I will live and learn. This situation happens often enough to experiment.
Now, yesterday I wore a different mix. I had two drops of A314 and two sprays of IO. One drop and one spray split between the wrists, one drop on my jawline, one spray on my chest. One of the things that I have read about on this message board is about making the pheromones work for you. Typically this is about being congruent with A314 or wearing TUTH/Ammo and going after women (as opposed to expecting them to approach you). I had an experience yesterday/today that illustrates this with Instant Openness. I can’t expect people to just tell me random things on a normal basis, but if I give out a select tidbit of private or seemingly private information then the race is on. I had an intense philosophical discussion with a coworker that included my personal theories about how the world works etc… Of course, at this point I had forgotten that I even had IO on so I was more open that I normally would be. I thought a few times, “should I share this information?..” and almost always settled on “yes, I can trust him to keep things secret.” Oops. Well, I CAN trust him based on previous experience, but I need to be more careful in the future. Thankfully nothing I told him was truly personal in that I would be unwilling to share it with others. However, just getting the ball rolling proved to be easy and he was willing to share things with me that I would never expect. He shared personal and dark secrets of his life that he had only shared with his mother. Wow. IO is instant “love me like a rock.” (I really just wanted a Paul Simon reference somewhere) I just need to get the ball rolling. Sure, most people will share details of their life with you if you open up first, but the magnitude of what was shared went beyond what I have experienced before. This was an important lesson that can probably be transferred to most pheromones once their effects are documented.
I stopped using mones for a brief while because I didn’t feel that I had a proper venue. I’m on the job hunt and interviews are few and far between. Hopefully things will change soon.
About two weeks, I started wearing A314 again. I decided to try 3 and 4 drops instead of just 1 or 2. I have trouble observing others and myself and the interactions. I need to be more observant.
I can think of a few instances where the high doses of A314 came into play. One instance I was inside of a convenience store and I thought I dropped my change (a quarter). I saw the guy behind me pick it up and pocket it. I was unnerved and I stuck my open hand out. He just looked at me, so I stuck it out further. I couldn’t believe the gall of this guy to do such a thing! As the interaction unfolded he ended up emptying his pocket to show me that he picked up a dime and he had no other change in his pocket. I don’t want to go so far as to say that he was shaking, but he was fearful. I can’t pinpoint the exact mannerisms that displayed this to me, but I could feel it. It turns out that I was completely wrong, however, and I didn’t drop any change on the floor; the quarter stayed on the counter while he simultaneously dropped a dime. I apologized and left, but he offered me the dime anyway. I refused.
In another instance, a very attractive female acquaintance of mine approached me when I was at a bar solo. I wasn’t wearing anything at the time, but I was wearing a few drops of A314 the last few times I had interacted with her. Previous to this year we would only make small talk, but since I have worn A314 around her she seems more interested in what I have to say. She is a model and only slightly crazy in comparison to other models I’ve known.
At my interim job, I’ve been experimenting with a few of the people. I recently purchased a large assortment of knockoff colognes. I like wearing one as a base and wearing it throughout the week while changing the pheromones that I wear. I already told the people that I have some knockoff colognes and I was going to be switching them up and asking for their opinions. So far here are my results:
Fake Armani Code + A314 = A manly scent that is enjoyed.
Fake Armani Code + IS = Good or better
Fake Armani Code + IJ = “That smells like my grandma’s couch,” and “I don’t like that at all, it’s too much… I don’t know… I can’t describe it. You know what I really like, though? Armani Code. You should get that.”
The same girl who said I smell like her grandma’s couch (sofa, not cooch you pervs) had her hands on my back a few times that day. One time I bent over and she came up from behind and put her hands on my back like she was going to leap frog me, but she never did. She just stood there with her hands on my back. Good stuff.
Today I’m feeling under the weather still, but I’ll be heading out to a local sporting event. I’m planning on two sprays of IO. After today, I think I’m going to put numbered labels on my 30ml bottles. I have p83, IS, IH, IO, and Ammo in 30ml. I’ll skip putting anything on Ammo just because the scent is obvious to me. I also have some togos that were either purchased or given as freebies (thanks AD!) and I will probably cover those in numbered labels too. Of those I have A314A, TUTH, IJ, IS and IG. I’ve been reading P51Mustang’s journal on testing and I think that the blind method of testing will help me in several respects:
I have had a difficult time observing the effects of pheromones because I’m not used to observing people. I have read that others have had this obstacle as well. Without knowing what I am testing I am forced to observe everything in order to try and figure out what is going on. I’m even considering buying a bottle of just neroli scented fragrance so I can have baseline observations down. Of course, I will label and mark the neroli as well so I don’t know that I’m using just neroli.
It will make me a better person when I can observe the entirety of others, not just trying to pick up on little things that I have a preselected bias towards based on a product name or the suggestions of others. Remember that scene in Pulp Fiction when the woman asks John Travolta if he listens to other people when they talk or if he just waits to talk? I’m waiting to talk. Not all the time, but generally speaking I’m waiting for my turn in the interactions that I have with others. Time to change that.
It will help me to find my sweet spots better if I’m not trying to copy exact mix of another person. They are great for ideas, but I just don’t have the basics down yet, so I want to make sure everything else is in place before I get crazy.
How could I not take the advice of Mustang?
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In addition to all of this, my mother, the only person who knows about my mones, asked me if they really work. I told her a couple examples of when I felt they were working but also explained that pheromones have a tendency to affect people’s mental perceptions/emotions and those mental perceptions/emotions are not always translated into physical or spoken expressions because of the constraints of cultural politeness. I had already placed an order late Friday when she asked about this, so I called AD on Monday to try and add things before things were sent out and they were kind enough to allow me to do so. My mother now has togos of IS and IO. I don’t know if she will be as observant as me, but I made her promise me that she will use them. Who knows how that will turn out, but I’m hoping it will be interesting…
Well, the IO seemed to make the married woman sitting next to me want to talk. In fact, she spent most of the game talking or texting. I felt even more under the weather by the time I got there, so I ignored her for the duration of the game. I was too busy feeling sick to even enjoy most of the game. I’ll have to wear IO when I’m feeling much better and willing to enjoy the interactions.
I hope to get that straightened out as well. I think in the next few days I will spray a bunch of stuff on myself and head to a book store or the mall to see what happens.