Beware: Line of scent pheromone misses!

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Twice now, I have seen this happen. I’m sitting next to someone. I’m wearing pheromones. And the woman next to the guy/gal sitting next to me starts hitting on the guy/gal next to me because of MY pheromones!

Directly between me and the responding person is the person who is benefitting from my signature, but not wearing pheromones.

The first time this happened, my distractant and I were sitting at a bar and next to her was a fairly good looking woman, obviously single and drunk. Within 30 seconds, this woman is hitting on the distractant. I’d have never known it was me, except that when I left to hit the bathroom, this drunk woman stopped being interested in the distractant. When I came back, the interest returned.

The second time it happened was today. I was standing in line at the post office. Our post office is way too small and woefully understaffed, with workers who think they’re snails. There was a line out the door, and they had four people working.

Anyway, back on topic, I was standing behind this woman who must have been in her mid fifties. She wasn’t unattractive, but she certainly wasn’t going to turn the average guy’s head either. In front of her was a guy about her age, who was a professional painter who had just gotten off work and was dressed in dirty/ratty clothes. No spring chicken, he looked as if he’d lived hard, and wasn’t much to look at either. Not ugly… just had a strange vibe.

So I’m standing there waiting, and this guy turns to her after ignoring her for several minutes and says, “You can go ahead of me in line, if you like.” But she declined, and he turned around again. Then a minute later, he turns around and repeats the performance, exactly. So does she. He attempts small talk, and she shuts down his attempt. Then she turns to me and starts talking as if I asked her the question!

I was polite and friendly, didn’t have much to say. So she stopped talking and turned around.

And again, this wierd vibe painter guy asks her if she’d like to skip ahead. Again she tells him no. Again she turns to me and starts talking about how the way they’re handling the lines are odd, but fair. Again I smile, tell her I agree, and stop talking.

Then the painter guy turns around and starts talking to her as if they’re in the middle of a conversation. She looks at him as if he’s nuts, turns around, and starts talking to me about our Air Force! Wha?

Today, I had on an OD of Seduction Mix 2. Interesting results with these two strangers.

The point is… if Person A is between you and person B, person B may think they are responding to the signature of Person A instead of the signature of you.

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Ever heard of the Social Hook Up Theory? Third party hits are very common, especially in OD situations. I’m surprised that you’ve only encountered this twice.

You noticed that in scenario one, the hits stopped when you removed yourself, right. I’ve found the need to do this several times. If the target can’t pinpoint the source, then s/he may tag the nearest person or the one who most closely matches their image of someone s/he would ususally find to be her/his type. This is one of the reasons for proper dosing. An OD can not only weird everyone out, it can cause confusion in your target or if it’s a massive OD, the whole room is one huge phero cloud that everyone basks in.

If I would find myself in this type of situation, I would do the same thing you did…I would remove myself. You can use this kind of strategy to your advantage, even if you are wearing a proper phero dose. Let your target get a feel of your mones and build some rapport, then leave for a bit. Give her a chance to miss that feeling, then come back to chat some more. I kinda like it if other dudes try to hit on her after she’s already marked me. The point is to give her that feeling and then take it away. This helps to anchor those feelings to you, she gets a reminder of how lame the AFCs are, should someone else try hitting on her, and you can establish yourself as a confident (i.e. attractive) person because you didn’t just sit there acting all clingy/needy or freak out because some other dude talked to her.

In the second scenario, I would imagine that the woman got the same vibe from that guy as you did and when he tried to engage her in conversation she turned to you to “rescue” her. This isn’t uncommon. Hell, I’ve hooked up at clubs many times simply due to dumb luck. I happened to be nearby when some creep was bugging a girl and she would look to me to bail her out, next thing you know we’re having a good time and things just progress naturally…I’m referring to experiences unrelated to the use of mones here.

Perhaps the ladies can help me out here. It seems that when a girl detects/responds physiologically to your mones, she runs all available info (e.g., appearance/grooming/dress/personality/demeanor) thru her “data base” to determine if there’s an acceptable match. If there is, then she may proceed further w/ you. If you simply don’t mesh w/ your phero sig, then you won’t match her criteria and she may look for someone who does. She would probably have a response much like Lor described recently. An “eeeewwwwwww, why am I feeling attracted to that guy ?” type of thing.

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Great comments Scottie2Hottie.

This is one reason I like to go the “minimalist” route. Keep things literally “close to the vest” and “aimable.” (Not that I’m having tremendous success…, but that’s my opinion.)

If you are in a party situation and ODing on IO or the like, that’s one thing (a human version of an Oust diffuser!). But I would think that if you are trying for some one-on-one you’d want to keep things closer.

On some of my lunch get-togethers where people have a tendency to default to a set seating pattern, I have even started to apply certain products to only one side or part of the body toward my primary target(s). (eg my left wrist). No certain proof that this works, but…

DeAngelo’s “gift of missing you” makes a bit of sense to me too. “Don’t know what you got till it’s gone” etc. Anything you can do to reinforce the connection between “feeling good” and your personal presence should be a great thing in my mind. I’ve even tried “doping” giftwrap (or the gift itself) to a “target” with a colonge/product that they will associate only (or at least primarily) with me. Finding a unique colonge/fragarence you can use as a “signature” can come in handy. If you’re the only one using Pheros when everyone else is wearing Axe… well…

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stolen hits

There were a few posts on this topic in the heyday of another forum, but I don’t think there was much more to be learnt from what has been summarised here.

Stolen hits for men seem to be a particular problem with 'none - I have never experienced them with other pheromones, though it’s possible they are just more nuanced and harder to spot. It would make perfect sense that high 'rone as muzak, for example. might activate certain neural circuits in her that make her more likely to find the chap she is talking to attractive even if it is hard for an outside observer to figure out what is going on.

It surely gets more confusing once one starts bringing female mones into the mix. (See my post in the women’s forum - I have twice inadvertently helped two girls to get together).

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lol I also have inadvertently helped two girls get together on more than one occasion, but I got to play too so it’s all good.:smiley:

The thing about “stolen” or “overflow” hits is it’s not merely a matter of a high -none dose, it would seem. I think that some women seem to seek out “the most appropriate” match to what they’re chemosensing. Imagine that a David Spade type walks into a club wearing a -none heavy phero mix and inside finds guys like Vin Diesel, Arnold and/or The Rock. Women begin to detect the presence of some dude oozing testosterone and start looking around. Who do you think they’re gonna tag? It ain’t gonna be David Spade? On the other hand, it could begin w/ a vague sense that someone attractive is nearby and if you’re close to her type then you would likely get the hit. If she’s into brainy/geeky guys and you’re a pretty boy, then she’s probably more likely to tag the dork…or vice versa.

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The reason I have only had this happen to me twice is simple. First, I almost never overdose. Yesterday was a rare exception. :slight_smile: Second, I amusually careful to be near the person I want to affect in a manner that rules out other potential competitors.

I cannot wear high 'none. One spray of TE is my max… and that’s what, 12 mcg of none? I think that’s what it is. Anyway, the mix I had on yesterday was low in none… even at overdose levels for the whole thing, I must have had on around 1-2 mcg of none. The mix I wore the first time had no none at all. It was a combination of SOE and Pherlure.

That aside, I think the remove yourself/restate your position later tactic is a great one. It works beautifully, especially with a woman who has “become too comfortable”.

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hehe I have worn up to 50mcg of none, course I dress like a rugby player when I do, or a mechanic…

50mcg none dressed like a mechanic coupled with rone higher mcg amount and TAK about 12.5mcg… HOLY HELL… hits hits hits… some P83 … just damn.

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I was actually walking behind this girl on campus while having TAL on. Now I’m not the greatest observer all the time but I’m pretty aware of my surroundings.
Me and this girl were being intruded on from traffic coming the other way but I saw the most peculiar thing. This tall light skinned black guy walked in the opposite direction of us and hell he gave the girl like a completely viral DIHL with his eyes so carnivorous that it looks like he was eyeing his dinner.

It was the funniest thing because his eyes and demeanor totally reminded me of Wiley Coyote with that devilish stare at his prey the Road Runner.

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I’ve seen this several times first hand, the most interesting was at my local bar. I was wearing mx302 x3, I was sitting next to a guy mid 40’s that was hitting on every girl that walked past. He would simply reach out put his arm around them and start his game. None of the girls seemed to be offended by his advances. Later I was talking to one of the waitresses and he kept trying to pull her away. After a few minutes she finally started talking to him. The next thing I hear is this guy talking shit about me. I get up and move about 10 feet away, slowly but surely the waitresses all end up lingering in my area. All the girls are suddenly put off by his agressiveness. Some of the girls avoid his area, others push him away as he runs his game. Then to return the favor, I cockblock the hell out of him. I ask the girls all types of weird questions “Is that your Dad”, “**Did that old dude just hit on you”, “Did grampa just ask for your number”, “**how much you want to bet that guy’s a sex offender”. 10 minutes later all the girls are saying he’s a “weirdo” and “creepy”.

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For the person who gave me the comment I wasn’t wearing TAL by itself. In these sort of cases I’m made a lot of guys around me seem more attractive due to the cloud I was emitting but along with regular masculine signature I had on TAL that day and I believed it rubbed off on the girl walking 2-3 feet in front of me.

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A friend of mine, that almost always joins me when I go to the bar/club, commented a couple days ago that he just realized that he only pulls girls when I’m around haha. We both laughed at this and I reminded him that 99% of the time it’s because I find a group of girls and bring them over to us and our friends. I think that plus my mones lingering all around us have been contributing to his increased success around me.