Big collection, no results yet: which products give self-effects?

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Hi guys and girls, I’m a newcomer in this community (sorry for my english, I’m french).

I did a lot of research about mones in this forum but I have a lot of questions.

List of mones I have:

_from androtics: IG, IH, IS, IJ, A314b, TUTH, Ammo, Ammo-SE, P83(20mu), p75(2.5mu), p74(5mu), p102(5mu), p130(5mu).

_from others(if you know): Holy Grail, Wingman Black Label.

  1. I note, there is more product in one spray of bottle than in one spray in ToGo size (And the hose(pipe?) in the bottle is the double of the hose in the ToGo size), I think it cans change the dosage of mu, isn’t it?
    _Or maybe the concentration is not the same in a Bottle and in a ToGo size so in one spray we have the same concentration of mones in both (If it’s that, i have a problem: I decant some TUTH from a bottle to a ToGo size.)

2.I precise I have a coach, I practice Street Pick Up, and Night Pick Up, I use mones in different sweet spots with a weather beetween 13-23?C
I know the effects can change between people, and I’m looking for somes self-effects to improve my Game, and ther is a list of my self-effects with mones:

A314b: Little effects on others but nothing on me.

Instant Shine: Nothing on me, I’m disappointed, I tried differents quantity and I feel nothing. It must be better test.

Instant Openness: good, I feel more free and the effects can be improve by good music.

Instant Honesty: it must be better test, I just tried it in combos and I think it cans be good in my futur test.

Instant Jerk: It works a little (just one spray tests), it’s not a very big feeling, it is not enough strong to say if it’s a placebo or if it’s the mones.
Just one time, I used several sprays and I got OD’s from girls in my clasroom: they gave me a lot of shit tests without reason; thank you Copulins --'.

Instant Gentleman: I feel nothing. It must be better test.

Turn Up The Heat: I feel nothing. It must be better test.

Ammo/Ammo SE: I feel nothing. It must be better test.

P75(2.5 mu): no self-effects but good effects on others. It must be better test.

P83(20mu): First time I used it, I feel disinhibited a little like “Don’t care” effect, and an other day, in a pick up session, I tried it alone (20mu) and I wanted to cry I don’t know why.

P102(15mu): Just tried one time, Give me a little headache, and I was feeling a little dizzy like if i was a little drunk, not good effects on me.

P130(10-15mu): I feel nothing. It must be better test.

About me and my personnality:

I’m 21.

I’m French but not a white skinned guy, I live in Paris but I’m from french West Indies (french Islands near Cuba). So I’m a mix beetween White/Black/Indian, if you want to know what I look like, a lot of people arrest me in the streets because I looks like a lot of Bruno Mars.

I use mones to improve my life and my Game, but I’m a little special, my IQ is more than 130 so, I’m gifted with a hypersensibility. I think it cans be an impact about mones (maybe?).
I’m a little introverted, so mones to be Alpha aren’t good for me because i don’t speak a lot and Alpha effects make me feel closed (with a good Body Language but I seem inaccessible).

I’m looking for bests mones to “great energy”(best self-effects) (The best at this day for me are IO and IH), and the question is: do you know good MX/Putatives/Combos to improve to this way?

Thank you for reading, I could have others questions in the future!

(Sorry fo double-posts.)

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I have personally found that for self-effects:

IS> Has been very helpful. Basically, one spray is good enough. It is great to take if you are depressed. I take it if I’m feeling very sad, or depressed and after one or two sprays the sadness goes away and I start smiling.

I have been using this product this year since I broke-up with my ex last year and I’ve been hit this year with a gut-wrenching lonliness. This made me purchase a big bottle of this stuff and I just spray it on and I feel amazing when it’s sprayed.

This helps me stay focused on the now, and not get introspective about the past or get hung up on stuff. Like cogntive behavioural therapy.

A314> This teaches me to respect myself and set boundaries with other people. It also teaches people to respect me as well and keep their boundaries away from me.

I know people will say these are meant to effect other people and not yourself. I would differ and say that it’s odd a product will make other people feel happy or in a good mood around you while you are depressed like crazy. Obviously, if it has that effect with other people, you are probably not going to be depressed yourself.

Same thing with A314. Its hard to imagine a product that commands respect and trust from other people will not have some sort of effect with you to respect yourself. (i.e. how do you expect other people to respect you if you don’t know how to respect yourself – this product will teach you to do that).

So obviously they all have self-effects. There are rumours though they can wear out if you use them too much since you can get used to them and you would have to reset by staying away from them for a while.

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Nobody can help me?

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You bought the store man.:smiley: Ok, let’s start somewhere fresh and make sense of this. I think your testing plan may be a little off. You say you’re not seeing results. You should calibrate your perceptions. Let’s try two tests for you:

  1. P75, by itself, 4 sprays to the neck. In some public place.

  2. IJ, 1 spray by itself to the neck. Better it should be a cafe or something. It could get a little crazy, so be ready to bolt the scene if people get hostile while you are wearing The Jerk. If you see nothing at two sprays, something is very amiss. OD is something, and it is all too common with 10 mcg -eNone and no buffers.

You’ve got a ton of product. There needs to be some method to the madness. At the same time, you’ll need to see results and proof mones work, if you are going to make this part of your lifestyle. The two tests I’ve given you are the most powerful mones out there. If you see nothing, then there’s something wrong here.

You are going to need to test several male products and several buffers to find dosing. I think you may be missing effects or hits.

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1 - The spray volume of togos is approx. 80% of the spray from a 30ml bottle. I can’t remember the exact spray quantity but it can be found if you have a search in this forum. The spray volumes of other common commercial atomisers is also discussed.

There is no difference in the strength of any equivalent product between togos and 30ml bottles - any difference is all in the spray volumes.

2 - Mones are far less effective outdoors. So if you are out and about, you will need to bear this in mind. The range and impact is much less due to the greater air volume and movement. I’d also say that complex mixes are less effective outdoors - Keeping them more simple and direct is by far the most effective. Especially where you have limited time/opportunity to make your mark. Save the more nuanced mixes for when you are spending quality time with someone.

However you are right that your sweet spot will vary depending on your situation and a mix that is good in daytime/polite social situations will often be very different to one that performs well in a club, party or more uninhibited and raunchy environment. Again, a bit of time spent finding what suits you best and at what doses will help you a lot.

Lastly, self effects can be vary variable - some people get them a lot, others not at all. Also, whatever self effect you get from a phero can diminish as you get used to them. I’ve found that for me, the effects from the likes of IS, TAA and nols diminished a lot faster than those of Androstenone and Androsterone with use and A314 oil has had the most prolonged run of self effects of any phero.

So to that end, I would strongly advise against choosing mones solely on their potential for self effect - instead, look to make the required changes by other means. The mones will then support these changes far better and more reliably and the results will be permanent. :slight_smile: