I am 35yo male. I bought A314 thinking it would work on Ice Queens and the bitch Shields but it doesnt? It works fantastic on guys though as they treat me with great respect. What can be use to defeat bitch Shields either in combination with A314 or just on it’s own?
Bitch Shield = Is a defense mechanism employed by many females who are accustomed to being approached frequently (e.g. due to their attractiveness).
The way to combat the bitch sheild it to validate it. Validate, validate, validate.
Example…you go into a bar and see 4 hot women…you go up to them ans ask for an opinion …the “alpha” of the group…butts in and says “We’ll give you our opinion but you have to buy us all a drink!”…what do you do next??
VALIDATE HER BEHAVIOR…something like…NO! I’m not getting them a drink I’m getting YOU a drink cause you’re the only one who had the balls to directly ask…take her hand and pull her to the bar."
ALL of her power is taken away. VALIDATE VALIDATE VALIDATE the bitch sheild…it will soon drop.
Cheers
Happytapps
Don’t be too nice when trying to “disarm” the shield so to speak. 
But don’t call her a bitch either because they probably heard this 20 times that night.
What you wanna do is try to find a fault and exploit it sort of, because she’s so used to being complimented, “Your so beautiful”, and what not, that would actually make her want to rectify her “mistake” in your eyes!
Thanks for the replies guys but I was looking more of a phero solution if there is one?
spray oxytocin directly up her nasal passages?
That would encourage bonding after she gets over her initial panic.
Seriously, mones will help but some things you’re going to have to do with your mind and mouth.
Happytappin gave a great example.
This forum has other examples where depending on what you’re wearing, you will be challenged to see if you’re the real deal. If you’re not congruent with the vibe you will get blown out.
You are still going to have come through- the mones will help a lot but you will still have to do some work.
2 pheromones come to mind you should try out on there own and with A314.
A1 which you cant get here. Go down to the drug store and look for Dial Magnetic body wash. It has A1 in it. Its inexpensive and this way you can try it out before investing in a raw bottle.
P74 there has been some reports of decrease in bitchiness with this one. I have noticed it from various females myself when I use it.
Have you tried any of the socials at all ? IO would be good to have as well.
All of these can be used with you A314 .
Of course they are not going to do all the work for you. They can help create a crack in the shield though so whatever method you choose to use will be more productive.
Just one more thing, In most cases the bitch shield has nothing to do with power. Its a protection mechanism. Men just think it has something to do with conceit or feelings of power because of the way the person looks. You will find some conceited women though but a majority of good looking women dont see themselves as guys do.
Since your wearing A314 I assume your going for the alpha male vibe. You want to deactivate her shield by giving her a feeling of unisnterested safety and comfort. Best way to do this is to act like “she is not all that”. Like your not all that interested. But your not threatened or impressed. If you come off as aggressive your validating her reasons for the sheild. For example for the situation Happy used.
This approach is to aggressive and pushy. If some guy said that and took my hand to drag me to the bar I would break his arm. It would send the shield into lock down.
Neg her…
"Wow is that all you think your opinion is worth ? To bad " Dont walk away but appear uninterested. This gives her time to think WTF did he mean by that.
You maintain your alpha and suddenly she has a opinion and she is sharing it and the shield begins to crack.
Tisha
Alternate Opinion on Bitch Shield
A woman puts up her “bitch shield” when she does not want to talk to a guy who approaches her. If a guy makes a great non-verbal first impression, the bitch shield will not go up. If a woman doesn’t want to waste her time or energy interacting with a guy, the bitch shield will go up.
Personally, I don’t believe in attempting to disarm bitch shields. If I approach a woman and the bitch shield goes up, I will just back off and find another woman. I don’t want to go through the extra work of trying to talk to a woman who doesn’t want to talk to me.
My approach to bitch shields in a bar/club setting is to wear a stiff dose of TUTH, NPA, or Instant Jerk. Sure, it will make the bitch shields of many women go up. But your strong male pheromone signature will intrigue a few women and there will be no bitch shield at all with those particular woman.
Remember BITCH means Babe in Total Control of herself… thats what these women think. They dont like to hear different. I used IO, and IH two prays each on each forearm rubbed together to get teh chatty non threatening vibe. If you want to kake it better, shape her. Tell her that you think its cool she is out with her friends and that you like it how she seems to be teh one taking care of friends. It allows you to modify her bahviour by degrees instead of all at once. It workd. If thast doesnt help, tehn a bitch slap is what is called for. or a good russian palm slap. Thats stops any conversation da!
I will second Tisha’s call with Androstadienone recommendation. That stuff simply calms women down. For me, its always been the most consistent performer when it comes to pheromones. Instant female magic was a huge seller here and straight A1 can still be purchased from other reputable sellers. The dose seems much weaker in the Dial body wash. There is a thread on where to find it, A1 is a serious bitch shield.
Heard that line before, sad thing is a strong independent woman that actually IS in control of herself is one that doesn’t expect men to buy her drinks based on the pure luck of being blessed with genes that gave her a nice figure or pretty face, they’re also not the type of women that consider eye contact and a smile as being forward, they actually take control and responsibility for their own emotions and relationships and have no problem telling a man that they find him interesting, asking him out and even paying for the first date. The ones that like to use acronyms are usually just plain rude and have listened to one too many “grrrl power” songs to be worth bothering with. Sadly however the Babe In Total Control of Herself can usually only be seen in fleeting moments, sometimes caught on film next to hairy individuals in the Pacific Northwest or riding Giant Lizards that swim in Scottish lakes.
lol someone has been watching Kasia on youtube 
Hmm. would you? You’d break my arm if I validated your good behavior? hmmm
Yes, I have and I’ve read her bookd and used her stuff in real life and frankly, I;ve had better results using a women’s perspective on pickup than any man’s …Keiza knows what she’s talking about.
yeah but she cant speak for every woman, shes only giving her view on it, and i know you wouldn’t be grabbing her by the hand and dragging her away from her mates… some women might even act even more hostile if you used that on her.. every situation is different. validation wont always work, if you validate, then the “bitch” in question might even see you as weak, and will attempt to crush you anyway, she might even respond with “erm, no, buy my mates a drink or you can get lost”
i suggest you get on over to the paragon project website right now, im reading their material, and trust me, if you don’t know what it is, u need to read their stuff, im not kidding, you tube has some really great pick up videos, but paragon has some really interesting stuff you should read about what woman really want.
I disagree whole heartedly! You;re saying “she might” …I’m talking about my real world experiences"…yes “anything could happen”…but in my experience “THE WAY YOU VALIDATE” matters…Yes I 1st read it from Keiza,then I tried it over and over again and it fits perfectly with the Alpha…The Alpha calls the shots. …t’s been my experience she will “internally” and externally thank you.
I didn’t say aything about dragging in a bad way…writing this and actually doing it are different.
I met what I would consider to be a smart rich older alpha lawyer lady @ Pianos in NYC with her friends…I did exactly as I described above and not only did it take the sting outta her bite…but a few moments later she told me she was glad to meet a man who “knows how to treat a lady!” …ok I was SHOCKED 
…according to Keiza its a sit test or a way to see if you’ll back down…and what did we all learn in middle school & high school??? When someone calls you a name…??? not only accept it…laugh with it if it true and all there power is gone…ofcourse if it’s not true the you just call it out…but…in the prior case when a women puts up the sheild…thats a good thing…better than all those meek and wild weak women…reward her and she will thank you.
I know Kasia is right, after all shes the type we all want to be with and shes the ultimate bitch, i was just saying its not gonna work on every girl.
anyway.. dont quote kaisa.. tell us YOUR experince.. tell us how this lawyer woman was a bitch and how you validated her and how far you got with her.. im interested
Yes, Tisha, this approch is better than Kasia’s easily, i’d much rather use this one, that way i dont have to buy them a drink got any more negs? lol
It was exactly that…I went up to them to ask for an opinion …typical opener…and she barged up cut me off and said we’ll give you our opinion if you buy us all a drink…I furled my brow and said No. …I’m not buying your frineds and a drink I’m buying you a drink, cause you had the balls to ask for it…and I took her by the hand and brought her to the bar and ordered her a Slutty Shirley Temple... Textbook. She still looked at me confused and shit test me a few more times…saying id this your line you use to all women?..I said? Yup. I give credit when credit is due…after that it was all the…What do you do for a living questions…I admit, i was shaking my balls off inside,but it worked!..and frankly after a while I blew my self outta the set cause I was too drunk …a mistake…but still…I even use that principle in sales…
I’m on the street and a meet a group of women and the one women is a real bitch…puts up the sheild says…NO we;re not gonna but your tickets…I don’t trust you…what do you thinkg I do right then!?..I VALIDATE THAT!!!..I say, ofcourse…I wouldn’t trust some guy I never met on the streets of NYC, you guys have a smart girl here with you!..and then I’ll yell…HEY COPS come get me I’m selling fake tickets…ofcourse they all laugh and the problem is always solved…it works every single time!..how could it ever be bad?? you’re REWARDING THEM…it’s human nature.
Whatever this is all here in words…yes I neg women too, and yes that does work sometimes depending…but this bitch shelid thing I’ve come across…this “defense mechinisim” is a test…a neg might work… validate might work…no one can say either or…BUT I’ve tired both …and in street sales I DO IT DAILY and I’m the top salesman…Validate then neg …I guess would be a more accurate way of saying it…works every single time and I do bet my monthly rent on it…because If it didn’t work I woldn’t eat…as I work on commision only.
I challenge anyone on the forum to come to NYC and I’ll show them…when a women meets a stranger and puts up the defense mechinsim …validating it is THE BEST way to break it down.
Probably not break it but twist it a little… yes LOL Frankly I dont see the behavior of giving you a ultimatum to talk to me as good behavior.
I dont see the action of pulling gently or dragging to the bar as Alpha. That’s not what leading means. That’s pushing. Pushy men are beta men. Your Alpha comes way before any physical contact occurs. Your not validating her your supplicating her.
Her comment was designed to seek approval and you validated it by supplicating her and showing lower value. Her comment was the shit test and you didnt react as a alpha would but validated the fact that her response mattered to you enough to pull her to the bar (which I would see as weak) and buy her a drink. She got exactly what she wanted. Your playing into her game and she is winning. She will let you buy her a drink or two and blow you off.
Validation always comes after you displayed higher value or she is playing you.
The Cougar knows what she is doing. She didnt shit test you. She was sweet talking you. She’s older… Your a young stud. Competition is fierce. She fed you a line to stroke your ego and draw you in.
By the way I live in CT and hang in the city frequently so I am familiar with the turf.
Tisha