Lonely men ought to flaunt their copies of New Scientist. Women looking for both one-night stands and long-term relationships go for geniuses over dumb jocks, according to a new study of hundreds of university students.
ABC News: Nerds rejoice: Braininess boosts likelihood of sex
I am still trying to figure out where these women are at.
A coworker suggested women lie on surveys and polls.
If I couldn’t hold an intelligent conversation with a guy for more than 5 minutes…I’d say NO THANKS!!!
As far as brains VS brawn, I prefer brains, but there does have to be some sexual attraction there!
I prefer the in-between kind of guy: one that can pick me up, sling me over his shoulder, slap me on the ass, and proceed to explain the theory of relativity on the way to the bedroom!
but that’s just me…
I would agree… the problem with our perception that jocks tend to do better with women IN GENERAL is because in Highschool the jocks always won out against the nerds - WHY, essentially because jocks have early success and therefore develop early confidence. In highschool “Nerds” tend to have lower confidence because academic success is EXPECTED of them. Jocks get the WOW man you were awesome because sports success is not expected of anyone - nerds are smart… we are expected to do well academically so noone besides our parents are impressed.
NERDS start to develop confidence once they enter college because their academic success there is directly associated with eventual professional success - I.E. People are 'WOW’ed by academic success in college… that means NERDS start to develop confidence in College and due to the fact that they are more likely to then get a good job and be “successful” (another confidence boosteR) start to become more attractive.
Jocks on the other hand tend to do a downwards dive… past Highschool (disregarding professional level - which most jocks do not achieve) Sports excellence is no longer regarded as impressive - they stop receiving the same degree of positive feedback for their successes - combined with A TENDENCY to be less proud with what they are doing to make a living (Then Nerds) means that Jocks either experience a reduction in confidence or a stagnation - These are the people who talk about Highschool being the best days of their lives -
In the end Nerds end up with more confidence at a period in their lives where women are more likely to be willing to have a ONS simply because Nerds peak in their lives at later times than jocks (in general).
me too! It seems they’re mostly on the interwebs…
River, we know that you are a class act who digs the cerebral 
! Indeed, all the ladies on the forum are, but I think the sample is skewed with regards to the population as a whole. The sort of girl to be posting on a pheromone discussion forum is going to be predisposed to being adventurous, neophilic and cutting-edge by virtue of the very fact that they are investigating and working with pheromones. Especially the posters that stick around. It’s like there is probably a greater concentration of the Meyers-Briggs “INTPs”, “ENTPs” and what have you on this forum than in the population at large.
But in my day-to-day life… well, I have the same feeling, as a guy, myself. Given a certain level of physical attractiveness, I value brains over additional looks much much more. This was part of my epiphany after a week of phero-wearing culminating in my big party combo. I always knew I would be dissatisfied if there was no intellectual compatibility with the women I was checking out, but I realised just how much that was important to me one Sunday afternoon wearing 7.5 mcg of P79, just hanging out.
I think most people who think smart guys don’t get the girl are comparing handsome dumb men to homely geniuses.
If a man is reasonably attractive, genius will only make him sexier and more fun.
Where have you been looking? I’m not sure that strip clubs and Hooters are the best places to look, Woofie! (This does not apply, however, to any of you forum women that work at strip clubs or Hooters, 'cause as ntk says, you’re adventurous, neophilic and cutting-edge by virtue of the very fact that you are investigating and working with pheromones! 
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This was really noticable at my last HS reunion that I went to. Seems that people who only had their “jock” status to fall back on were the ones struggling in the “real world” while the nerds and “nerdy jocks” (some people are over-achievers 
) seemed to be having the most success in life.
(((blush)))(((blush)))(((blush))) Awww, thanks ntk!
I’ve seen the thread…I’ve gotta check it out!
It’s not just about ONS anymore, is it?
ewwwww, the strip clubs around here are full of redneck toothless women and it’s 100 miles to the closest hooters.
bars are full of college girls, most of which are under 21 and only looking for a one night fling.
Have you tried the library…I’ve heard stories about librarian nymphomaniacs 
Never judge a book by its cover
I think you are correct in a sense… but only when you apply it to the jocks that make it through highschool BECAUSE of their sports status. If you play sports while in school - regardless of the level - you need to maintain a passing grade point average. Now - you certainly don’t need to be a genious to get a 70% in class… but you certainly aren’t dumb either. I beleive your correct with those who only pass their classes because the teachers (who are also the coaches) give them lienency so they will pass. IT DOES HAPPEN! My wife went to school with a STAR football player… he was All-State. Poor kid couldn’t read… HOW THE HELL DO YOU GET THROUGH HIGHSCHOOL WHEN YOU CAN’T READ??? He also out performed all of the olympians for the U.S. team in his event… however he didn’t produce results at his qualifying meet. I don’t want to reveal too much about him - but he was also a track and field star.
In the end… i think i would rather be a good looking smart guy - than a not so good looking genious. I certainly don’t want to be labled dumber than a box of rocks LOL
~Haz~
shudder the librarian is like 90, she can hardly see.
LOL! No wonder you’re feeling so hopeless…
The grocery store???
but I am still trying,
I am in the one meetup group in the area,
and I have a profile on yahoo and plenty of fish.
I think I fall in the Nerd/Jock category, but I am no overachiever. 
I had shitty grades in high school (classic ‘I’ll only work on what I care about’ phase) but I did pass. The sports side of the equation, I was pretty successful in, enough to be considered and elected team captain before the next season started (lol, I dunno how they went about that, but I was happy. )
Either way, definitely though, being a jock helped boost my confidence. I mean, hell, when you’re on academic probation and not allowed to play, but your coach who needs you, puts you in for the whole game anyways and just tells you not to get caught, how can you not get a big of an ego boost?
Being a jock definitely helped out my social situation as well, how many friends did I make just by being on a team? All of a sudden you and your team eat together, work out together, practice together, then go and party together. It’s nice and easy, you don’t have to try hard at all. You get there, the girls are already there, no one has to make calls, everyone’s expecting you to show up to the party anyways.
I don’t think I made it through high school because of my sports status, but it certainly made the experience much more enjoyable, certainly more enjoyable than some of my friends that were just nerds and not nerd jocks…I would say, sports made the difference between me finding parties and me stepping onto the red carpet at parties.
I can definitely see what Wrlprchnx is talking about, now that I’m in college myself. There are definitely some people who cling to the high school way of life and it sucks to have to be around them, but fuck it I’ll graduate, be successful and they can eat shit for all I care. The people who believe that any time of their life is the ‘BEST’ time of their life..has too narrow scope of vision, IMO. Rather than trying to better their current situation, they’ll just mope on about how much better it used to be.
In fact, another example is drug dealers. Anyone that sells drugs in high school is guaranteed to have a lot of ‘friends’. They’ll hang with plenty of girls, and have plenty of fun. My friend is a perfect example of this. Now that he’s in college and that people don’t glorify slangers like they did in high school, he finds that he’s shit outta luck. No one cares about a slanger, and he doesn’t have anything else to back himself up with, cause that’s all he knows. He’s always reminiscing about high school.