callin all men that used to b shy, plz help me b more sociable

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this is true for most subjects invovling self improvement but it has been extremely useful for me and this along with most other methods require a desire to follow through. the method itself works but not all have the will and desire to change. so i wouldnt doubt it might have a low success rate.

other options can be

anthony robbins
the silva method
david deangelo

and numerous others probably that i havent learned, if u dont want to do an intense training on self improvement then i would suggest -

anthony robbins ultimate edge

and he i know has an enormous success rate.

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ya i’d prolly go the tony robbins route. don’t know what the silva method is.

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I’d just keep in mind that your perception becomes your own reality. If you think you are a shy man with little to offer a woman she will assume the same thing simply by looking at you, and probably wont want to talk. Body language is very important. If you think you are a great guy and keep affirming this it will soon become your reality as you keep doing positive things. Good posture and a confident tone go a long way when talking directly to a woman, as does eye contact.

I’d also try to fully understand why you are insecure or shy or whatever. I’d figure out who I was judging because in my opinion judgements are simply our own projections upon other people. If you think a certain guy is a muscular dbag whose just trying to get into girls pants and is not a good guy, this may be true. But it could additionally be that you are insecure about your own abilities to get girls, have muscles, and talk to women. Hope that helps.

Pheromone wise, you’ve gotten some good suggestions. IS AMMO CTTM2 IO and IH and A314 are all things I’d consider. tuth for clubbing is also an idea.

as for nlp,my understanding is you can use it to reprogram your own thoughts or try to persuade other people. I dont see anything but good things for reprogramming your own thoughts to be better.

If you think the persuasion on others is bad, don’t do it. If you want to learn how before you make that decision, study it for a bit then decide. I think NLP is good for yourself but questionable for interacting with other people. Some seems pretty juvenile to me, here’s the worst I heard. saying to a female “why do you seem so closed off right now, we should take this conversation in a new direction” with emphasis on certain syllables. and closed off = clothes off and new direction equals you can figure it out for yourself. That type of NLP is shady to me, but not what people here seem to be suggesting. Ross Jeffries is the main one I think but I really don’t know much about it. just my 2 cents, good luck man

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wow that was pretty bad lol

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what do you mean bad, the example?

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the majority of people should jsut go with anthony robbins, it requires less study, he has already condenced nlp into a need to know form

but if u listen to tony robbins u are still learning the core principles of nlp and he states this in most of his products

and i completely recommend get the edge by anthony robbins

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You’re taller than I am. I understand exactly what you mean. Still, you need to look around you, find some guys that are significantly taller and ask, “Would I rather be him?” You’ll find a lot of guys who are so pathetic that you would no way want to be him, even if it meant being a half a foot taller.

The other thing to keep in mind is that when someone tells you that height doesn’t matter, they’re full of sh!t. It does matter; it is something to be overcome. Everyone has disadvantages; this is one of yours. You need to play to your strengths. Clubbing is probably not the way to meet a woman. It depends too much on looks and first impressions. Get a good understanding of body language and don’t destroy your confidence by approaching a woman unless she is giving you positive signals. There are definitely women who will be attracted to you (especially with the A314), but you’ve got be be good at recognizing that interest, because approaching a woman cold puts you at an extreme disadvantage.

As far as clothes, you want to enhance your verticallity. You want vertical stripes, never horizontal stripes. In a suit jacket, three buttons is better than two. Lighter colors appear larger than darker colors. Contrasting colors in shirt and pants draw attention to the horizontal belt line and cut your height. Women are obsessed with shoes. You think they don’t notice yours? Here are the shoes for you.

As far as pheromones, A314 will enhance your “stature”. Experiment with it until you find the right dose and balance with IO, IH and IS.

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Hello and welcome HIGH SPEED,

First, thank you for the extraordinary service and profound sacrifice you have rendered for our country and the world.

I know you sign up in the ARMY with the complete understanding of the dangers that could come - that is part of the duty that makes our service members so extraordinary.

If anyone in our forum that deserves support it’s our service members in uniform.

Now, forgive me, if I sound firm, I truly only mean you well.

How long have you been in the military? This will enlighten me some and explain some things. Do you have a few close friends in your area? Those whom you associate with sometimes. Are you going out and not glue to the barracks?

We can both agree that the military is a young people organization and there’s systems in place; such as, special courses and professional development schools.
Thus Confidence is an must attribute in your profession. You hear it everyday. You got to live, and breathe and believe in. Act on those things that tests you. ”You may bend, but don’t break,” I only mean well.:slight_smile: Perform those things that you aren’t comfortable with, it’s to help your confidence, even if you don’t see it immediately; also, if may increase your promotions opportunities.:smiley:

HIGH SPEED, there’s GQ, Esquire, Men’s Vogue, Men’s Health, Best Life, Cargo, Detail, and many, other monthly magazines available and on-line. Please, don’t rule out reading articles in women magazines. It’s worth some of your personal time and money to invest in those things.

You said, “I would prefer a woman answer these fashion questions.”
Brother try the malls and get with female employees,:slight_smile: and also in some of those magazines are special columns that women tell us men what the like or don’t like in men or boyfriends.

3 second rule, you heard of it, right?:confused:

Even though I don’t know you personally, HIGH SPEED, don’t ever use the word “shy” or any negative word(s) to describe yourself. There a reason, and the men and women who covered this issue mentioned it for a good reason and it worth mentioning again.

Who’s that one leader you see on a daily basic that admire and respect - pick up something that positive from him or her, and incorporate in your lifestyle. You’re surrounded by talented people.

A member of the community recommended “NLP” it’s good, but only if you willing to put in the necessary work to make the changes. Giving up is not a option, HIGH SPEED you know the deal. Soldiers don’t give up. Continue to do the best you can, and be proud of yourself.

Last and finally, your six products are a excellent basic load.:slight_smile: You’re ready for combat.

Respectfully,

MVKBUGATTI
“Bugatti”

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Have you used this program? I’m thinking about buying it but I need to know if its worth it. What does it teach you you as a person?

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yes i have used them all… he has about 10 different audio/video seminars and i have found

get the edge
personal power
and release the giant within

his most influenceful.
get the edge has nothing to do with pickup but how to change ur life to what u really want it to be and why humans dont just do it naturally.

tony robbins is the most powerful speaker u will ever listen 2 and the first seminar i listened to of his brought me to tears at the end because i realized how many things in my life ( 2 years ago ) i was completely unsatified with. he will point them out and show in specific detail how to fix them through repeated small actions creating a rolling snow ball effect.

basically hell get a person to realize what there disatified with, hell explain why we are unwilling to change naturally, then he will give technics on how to create small adjustments to ur daily life that will result in a huge change over a set period of time which u choose.

there are a range of products he has out and there all really 5 for 5 on my list

i would recomend get the edge first though
it kicks a** in my book

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so ultimately, are you performing actions or are you changing self talk. i ask b/c i have no experience with his stuff.

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lol both u have to change the way u talk to yourself to get motivated to perform the action

then pick the right action break them down into small steps making them eay to perform which will make u willing to follow through over a long period of time.

but please dont take this summary as all he speaks abouts its not even close, he is a fanominal teacher.

i just summed up 1 part of what he talks about. and he has several different seminars spanning wealth to happiness to relationships. and there all serioulys 5 for 5 except maybe the relationship 1 baecause im not married.

typed from cellphone excuse typos lol

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just from this forum alone i have learned a lot. i been doin a lot of readin from PUA guru’s and a few forums here and there. but from asking one questiion here i have received so many answers and new directions to help b the me i wanna be. ima definately stick around this forum, not only for the pheros but for the people. hopefully i can help sum1 the way every1 here has attemtped to help me. great info from every1. hell, someone from austin even invited me to go clubbin wit him. guess i shoulda spoke up a long time ago. really got me thinkin about what else i can accomplish now. hmmmmm :roll_eyes:

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yea quality forums like this one are few and far between.

but remember like u said in the beginning ur gonna have to do 90 percent of the work. forum advice is just the beginning to get the changes u want.

but its definately a useful resource

good luck man.. 4real

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You can do it, Playa. :wink:

As for the ultimate edge, this stuff seems legit, Iv been doing some research and I see it has some positive feedback. I don’t have a problem getting women in my social circle but I feel that I can do better with approaching women in public and changing myself into the person I want to be. thanks denigro153 for the suggestion.

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You know one more advice I can give - not related to mones - try using some height increasing shoes - I use the ones called elevator shoes from the Richlee Shoe Company - expensive ($100) shoes but they add 2 to 3 inches to your height easily and one cannot notice what you are wearing.

Hope it helps. I myself am in the mones section to experiment so if you or anyone has advice please help me out too.

My thread is here

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thats not bad advice, but the way i see it that would be like lying to a woman. i mean think about im. im only 5’4 so she meets me and we have a blast. then she ready to have sex and the shoes come off and there i am looking up at her, lmao :open_mouth:. that would be a hell of a time to be caught in a lie like that. i rather just be confident in who i am. i may not be too tall but i am sure i have something a woman would love. hell i been maried five years so i must have been doin something right.

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alright i know this thread is dead and gone. i just wanna thank everyone that open my eyes to fashion sense. all of those that enlightened me how to not look like a “ghetto child” i want to thank u. i slowly pieced together a few non thug outfits. and yesterday and today i tried them. one hell of a difference. for one i felt better cuz my clothes werent hanging all over the place and gettin caught under my sneakers. second i felt good cuz i knew i was takin a step to improve myself. and with the use of is, ih, and io i walked with a smile on my face and my head up high. sometimes i started conversations with strangers. some people even went out of there way just to talk to me ar at least say hi. honestly everyone responded positively except the “ghtto children”. but i dont blame them. just last week it was the opposite, all i coult talk to were the ghtto children.

also those of u that recommended the mones that i now have and those at androtics direct for a free gift with every order. even the order i only paid 2 bux for cuz of the gc. this is a great company and a great forum. its amazing how me actually askin people wtf i should do actually helped. i would love to thank every1 but i can only remeber a few names. so thanx to everyone. even those that gave just a little afvice. i took it all, and came up with my own formula and its working. these mones definately help too. i really cant thank everyone and androtics enough. this is really a new chapter in my life. wtf have i been doin all along?

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I used to very shy in high school. I didn’t date a single girl in high school, lol. Well, I studied my butt off and did get into top schools. Graduating from a top 25 university is somewhat paying off now… I think my confidence sky-rocketed after training in the Army. Hanging out with other alpha or wanna be alphas and trying not to let them push me over got me stronger. Just do about 15 cold approaches per day for a few weeks, and it will come your second nature in no time. Plus, not tying to offend anyone, but Army girls tend to be easier. Stress, loneliness and encouragingng sex within the Army make these girls more open to sex.

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Naah man - believe me - a couple of inches makes a big difference at that height. and when they do come off they are almost never noticeable.
Think of it this way, don’t you comb your hair in a certain way or put deodrant or even the whole mones thing. It is something you add on to make yourself attractive - of course if you wear 5 inches of heels its a different thing but a couple of inches is not a big deal. Believe me - I know people who are 5 10 and want to be 6 and have been wearing this stuff for the past 20 years :slight_smile: