In certain situations… Im just surprised but can the difference between a mix that is uberamazing and dud simply be using 2.5 mcg of -none rather than 7.5mcg…?
I kinda messed up and went to a club, think I od’ed as I had 3 sprays of turn up the heat and uhh, wasnt hugely great… Chatted with girls to begin with in the line, some responded well, one girl I donno, think I made unconfortable slightly… Lol, wasnt my best game after all, infact… I havent really OD’ed on none before but I just felt my presence wasnt there, as good as it could have been. It seems almost like the extra none was counterproductive, what do you guys think?
I know that I am quite young, only 22 years old but I thought I could handle that amount of none if I know what im doing… After all, I was at the same place not long ago, and not long after arriving I had some girl who I think knows me coming up to me buying me a drink! My jaw dropped… Yet this time, the effect seems to be one of negativity almost, at least thats what it seemed. I cant read womens minds but I would assume if the -none would have turned them on, the outward effects would be different, like shyness, or IOIs or whatever as opposed to plain disinterest…
Yep, that’s pretty much like my first OD - that was on 3x TUTH as well. It will make men and women alike uncomfortable if you OD. Well, it’s all relative… you could find someone who digs the high -none, but by and large, it’s too much for most people. And I’m fine with 2x TUTH. Indeed, I have worn 3x TUTH since without ghosting… so the social context is important too.
as far as i can tell turn up the heat gives off the messege that YOU WANT SEX, perhaps you didn’t od but was just giving off this messege too strongly for their liking.
At least for me and a few others I know high amounts of anone can make us aggitated cranky and bitchy. Oddly you still feel horny but its more like the horny bitch from hell feeling.
The first time I used TUTH I used sprays not dabs LOL My stupid mistake they used to sell it in the womens section with the same ad copy as the mens product. My mistake is why they removed it LOL I was a horny lunitic. I cornered my husband in the bed room and well you get the picture… He is a big man, well over 6 ft and muscular. I scared the crap out of him LOL
lol, you women scare the hell outta me sometimes… gotta luv ya though ;)I suppose I have experience using 1, 2 or 3 sprays of none, havent really gone beyond that… Ive tended to come to the conclusion that less is better, but none is probably not so good… Im just trying to understand in my head what exactly its supposed to do in a womans head… Its hard to conceptualise how you can be horny and cranky at the same time… Although if thats the case, that probably does explain the problem I had using 3 sprays of heat in a club with girls ive never met before… Its funny, one girl was nice about it (probably because I was wearing enough nols) whereas the others (3 or 4) were probably more standoffish. Maybe thats the general pattern where 1 in 4 girls will respond positively while 3 in 4 will be standoffish… lol, im getting too technical there anyway, thanks for the insight tisha…
i have found that 1 spray on the chest and half a spray on the elbow joints spread on both of tuth, and 1 spray on the back of the neck and 1 spray spread on both wrists of instant honesty to quite a good mix. not too overpowering.
Its not really cranky like a PMS kind of cranky. Its hard to descibe but I will try. Its probably like a guy would feel if a girl teased and fondled them and then stopped right before the main event and said I dont want to. You try to be nice about it but that pent up aggrivating feeling is still there in the pit of your stomach.
For a women
Your all quaky, hot and bothered and there is only one thing that will cure it but if you not in the environment to do that one thing or you cant because its against your general nature then you get the same pent up aggrivated feeling. Some women can hangle negative feelings well and will ignore , others get snappy. Some like me will stamp there foot and screech “I want it now” then pout if you dont move fast enough LOL
OK… thanks Tisha. I shall continue my large-dose Turn Up The Heat experiments with this in mind
I did feel a bit like the kid who fell off his bike when I got my first OD. I have to get back on the bike knowing that the effects on women might manifest in this way, I guess.
But I did notice with my OD that men and women seemed to react in basically the same way by avoiding eye contact and acting like I wasn’t there. I could have handled a little cranky, bitchy behaviour at that point, it beats being ignored, which is a nightmare!
I’ve been through this many times with a GF and her reaction was extremely consistent: picking a fight followed by wild and urgent sex. But in my experience it doesn’t work that way with most women. Some are just plain horny, others are perfectly controlled although itching underneath while others, mainly really young women, are frightened and timid, at least initially.
I suspect the frightened ones are turned on but are not accustomed to such raw feelings and thus shutdown. However once they get to know you and feel safe, and of course like you, they react like the more experienced women.
Anyway, in my case, I can usually wear high doses of androstenone to good effect. It’s rare to encounter chest beating males or frightened women. However much of this depends on your social skills and body language.
Yep thats why they say TUTH is best for one on one situations or someone who has a comfort level with you already. Its also why some young guys say they get more hits from older women LOL
If your going to use TUTH in a environment where you really dont know the women enough to have a comfort level yet use something that calms and connects like IFM and IH with it.
oh man, spoiled only child syndrome…
some women can’t handle delayed satisfaction…
having applied a large amount of TUTH, (slight spillage, during shipping, wiped to my arms and shirt from the bubble pack)
and gone to a store (hey I wanted to see the stuff work in the real world)
I found varying degrees of reactions, and the aggressiveness of other males was what I found so shocking.
Females were bubbly, happy and very openly aroused, almost left me with the Deer in headlights look.
I haven’t grown a pair big enough to try it again. but I have added a touch to my mix for play.
Tater doesnt have Tishas experience. However, he believes women also feel a bit self-conscious about it, possibly pre-judged, and so the point where it becomes ineffective is different between younger women and older women.
I think we all start off by thinking we can somehow make women want to just fall for us and have sex with us, no questions asks, just spritz a few sprays of none. Dont bother with that, the best way is to use socials (Instant line) and just take your time, work on comfort, attraction and getting things started. Ive found its actually much easier and you tend to get better women anyway. The benefit of socials is that you can meet more women too, as sometimes they even approach you. As much as I like sex, I would avoid making that the focus on your pickup.
i have been using a combo of turn up the heat and instant honesty on a daily basis now for about a week. i haven’t noticed anything significantly sexual, like lets just go straight to dessert from the younger ladies (lots of looks and looking away when i look at them) but am definately getting a rapport with woman in their 30’s to 40’s, they are very friendly and i’m getting the impression, all you need to do is ask, probably because they are more mature and experienced and more confident with their feelings.
i have female magic, openness and shine on order and am going to mix it up a bit when they arrive but at the moment i am pretty happy with the turn up the heat/honesty mix.
