Care to bend the odds in your favor ?

Now, this is SNEAKY…

The concept is you take a cell phone jammer into a club, on a date, to a restaurant… and there is a 20 foot or so radius of “service interruption”… thus, nobody’s cell phones work and those in the establishment can no longer direct their attention elsewhere, nor will your flow of conversation be interrupted… those in the place can only interact with others in the place… If I were back in clubbing, barhopping, chick sweet talking mode, I can see how this would be a major advantage…
Cell Phone Jammer Plus Pheromones ?
*:cool: *?
Fierce combination…

"SAN FRANCISCO, Nov. 2 — One afternoon in early September, an architect boarded his commuter train and became a cellphone vigilante. He sat down next to a 20-something woman who he said was “blabbing away” into her phone.
“She was using the word ‘like’ all the time. She sounded like a Valley Girl,” said the architect, Andrew, who declined to give his last name because what he did next was illegal.
Andrew reached into his shirt pocket and pushed a button on a black device the size of a cigarette pack. It sent out a powerful radio signal that cut off the chatterer’s cellphone transmission — and any others in a 30-foot radius.
“She kept talking into her phone for about 30 seconds before she realized there was no one listening on the other end,” he said. His reaction when he first discovered he could wield such power? “Oh, holy moly! Deliverance.”
As cellphone use has skyrocketed, making it hard to avoid hearing half a conversation in many public places, a small but growing band of rebels is turning to a blunt countermeasure: the cellphone jammer, a gadget that renders nearby mobile devices impotent.
The technology is not new, but overseas exporters of jammers say demand is rising and they are sending hundreds of them a month into the United States — prompting scrutiny from federal regulators and new concern last week from the cellphone industry. The buyers include owners of cafes and hair salons, hoteliers, public speakers, theater operators, bus drivers and, increasingly, commuters on public transportation.
The development is creating a battle for control of the airspace within earshot. And the damage is collateral. Insensitive talkers impose their racket on the defenseless, while jammers punish not just the offender, but also more discreet chatterers.
“If anything characterizes the 21st century, it’s our inability to restrain ourselves for the benefit of other people,” said James Katz, director of the Center for Mobile Communication Studies at Rutgers University. “The cellphone talker thinks his rights go above that of people around him, and the jammer thinks his are the more important rights.”
The jamming technology works by sending out a radio signal so powerful that phones are overwhelmed and cannot communicate with cell towers. The range varies from several feet to several yards, and the devices cost from $50 to several hundred dollars. Larger models can be left on to create a no-call zone.
Using the jammers is illegal in the United States. The radio frequencies used by cellphone carriers are protected, just like those used by television and radio broadcasters.
The Federal Communication Commission says people who use cellphone jammers could be fined up to $11,000 for a first offense. Its enforcement bureau has prosecuted a handful of American companies for distributing the gadgets — and it also pursues their users.
Investigators from the F.C.C. and Verizon Wireless visited an upscale restaurant in Maryland over the last year, the restaurant owner said. The owner, who declined to be named, said he bought a powerful jammer for $1,000 because he was tired of his employees focusing on their phones rather than customers.
“I told them: put away your phones, put away your phones, put away your phones,” he said. They ignored him.
The owner said the F.C.C. investigator hung around for a week, using special equipment designed to detect jammers. But the owner had turned his off.
The Verizon investigator was similarly unsuccessful. “He went to everyone in town and gave them his number and said if they were having trouble, they should call him right away,” the owner said. He said he has since stopped using the jammer.
Of course, it would be harder to detect the use of smaller battery-operated jammers like those used by disgruntled commuters.
An F.C.C. spokesman, Clyde Ensslin, declined to comment on the issue or the case in Maryland.
Cellphone carriers pay tens of billions of dollars to lease frequencies from the government with an understanding that others will not interfere with their signals. And there are other costs on top of that. Verizon Wireless, for example, spends $6.5 billion a year to build and maintain its network.
“It’s counterintuitive that when the demand is clear and strong from wireless consumers for improved cell coverage, that these kinds of devices are finding a market,” said Jeffrey Nelson, a Verizon buttface. The carriers also raise a public safety issue: jammers could be used by criminals to stop people from communicating in an emergency…

In evidence of the intensifying debate over the devices, CTIA, the main cellular phone industry association, asked the F.C.C. on Friday to maintain the illegality of jamming and to continue to pursue violators. It said the move was a response to requests by two companies for permission to use jammers in specific situations, like in jails.
Individuals using jammers express some guilt about their sabotage, but some clearly have a prankster side, along with some mean-spirited cellphone schadenfreude. “Just watching those dumb teens at the mall get their calls dropped is worth it. Can you hear me now? NO! Good,” the purchaser of a jammer wrote last month in a review on a Web site called DealExtreme.
Gary, a therapist in Ohio who also declined to give his last name, citing the illegality of the devices, says jamming is necessary to do his job effectively. He runs group therapy sessions for sufferers of eating disorders. In one session, a woman’s confession was rudely interrupted.
“She was talking about sexual abuse,” Gary said. “Someone’s cellphone went off and they carried on a conversation.”
“There’s no etiquette,” he said. “It’s a pandemic.”
Gary said phone calls interrupted therapy all the time, despite a no-phones policy. Four months ago, he paid $200 for a jammer, which he placed surreptitiously on one side of the room. He tells patients that if they are expecting an emergency call, they should give out the front desk’s number. He has not told them about the jammer.
Gary bought his jammer from a Web site based in London called PhoneJammer.com. Victor McCormack, the site’s operator, says he ships roughly 400 jammers a month into the United States, up from 300 a year ago. Orders for holiday gifts, he said, have exceeded 2,000.
Kumaar Thakkar, who lives in Mumbai, India, and sells jammers online, said he exported 20 a month to the United States, twice as many as a year ago. Clients, he said, include owners of cafes and hair salons, and a New York school bus driver named Dan.
“The kids think they are sneaky by hiding low in the seats and using their phones,” Dan wrote in an e-mail message to Mr. Thakkar thanking him for selling the jammer. “Now the kids can’t figure out why their phones don’t work, but can’t ask because they will get in trouble! It’s fun to watch them try to get a signal.”
Andrew, the San Francisco-area architect, said using his jammer was initially fun, and then became a practical way to get some quiet on the train. Now he uses it more judiciously.
“At this point, just knowing I have the power to cut somebody off is satisfaction enough,” he said.

I had a friend in college that bought a jammer, one of the greatest inventions in the world. He was very active in the theater department and got tired of people rudely interrupting plays with phones no matter how many times people were asked before the play started to turn phones off. Hid the jammer in a old shoe and placed it in the audience seating - problem solved.

The prices sure have come down since I last looked into them. Next time I’m out of the U.S. I am so buying one.

Considering I have a cell phone for use in emergency situations due to my own health and the health of some people I am caregiver for, I would severely hurt anyone I cought using such a device (unless you can convince me otherwise) as it could, in my case, mean a matter of life or death.

I can understand the frustrations though. I do encounter people all over loudly carrying on what should be private conversations in public places. I had to shake my head at one store where an entire family of 5 were walking down the aisle and the only on NOT on a cell phone was the bab-in-arms. And at least 50% of the pople I see walking down the street around town have a phone glued to their ear. Although I suspect, especially with some females, it’s a means of self defense. They are less likely to be approached/bothered by someone with ulterior motives if it appears they are in an active conversation.

the better designs seem to be the low range, thumb switch variety that you send out a temporary pulse with when a phone user is out of control… sadly, I’m seeing such appalling behavior in my office building from those who appear to be pushing the envelope of rudeness almost to see if they can get away with it… far above the call of duty, such as holding an elevator door open WHILE having a five minute conversation so others 1. can’t access the elevator so 2. they can hop on without waiting, while 3. THEY can have an uninterrupted conversation at THEIR leisure ?.. I’d love to terminate that specific form of nastily anti-social conduct while leaving the non-problematic conversations alone… if an antisocial fraction of the populace is determined to act out in fundamentally antisocial ways, a reaction is inevitable… almost a collective immune response to a socially toxic antigen…

There may be good uses for this, but, most likely the majority of the purchasers will be criminals, stalkers and power giddy fools.

I agree with Rbt also, blocking contact between a parent/child or emergency help is not an appealing idea.

If coworkers are using the phone when they shouldn’t be it is up the employer to enforce those rules. If someone at a club is more interested in a phone conversation than one with you, move on to some else it is not within your rights to block their service.

And criminals, stalkers, and power giddy fools aren’t also significant users of cell phone technology itself ? There is one article about how sub-saharan civil terror-wars are being coordinated by thugs using cell phones… John Perkins I think… so what if the zapper is used to disrupt a criminal’s communication ?

That is why I wrote there may be good uses for this. Unfortunately the criminals, stalkers and power giddy fools would be the majority.

You’re hypothesizing a good reason that I can understand. But do you really think that the majority of people using this would be for good?

Well my cell phone is important to me so I can keep in touch with my son when he needs me since I am on the road all day and he cant just call my office. My parents are elderly and so are my husbands and I use it to keep tabs on there needs as well. I would be pissed if I missed a important call from one of them. Here in CT where alot of big executives from NYC live there was a case of a diner owner having a jammer and a guy who missed a important business call because of it. He sued and won. The diner had to pay a fine and damages as well as post a sign that stated they have Jammers so cell phones would not work inside.

It would be harder for people just walking around with one to get caught.

I do however think it is rude to have conversations on your cell in places that it will disturb others. If you are in one of those places excuse yourself and tend to the call or turn your ringer off and your voice mail on.

Just my 2 cents

Tisha

I don’t think it’s a good thing to use these jammers either.

A mobile may need to be used for an important reason as others said.

People should put their mobile on silent in a place like a theatre.
I was in a restaurant today and some foreigners were there, talking loudly, rudely shouting, disturbing everyone…
I guess you can disturb others even without a mobile…

Whoah, where can I get one? I have a colleague in my office and she’s constantly (!) on her mobile - noone in the office can concentrate on their work when she’s constantly blabbering with some friends of her. I have hinted her a hundred times that her phone usage is way over the top and annoying the others - but she just won’t stop. I wouldn’t want to cut her off completely, but when she’s been blabbering with some friend of her about nonsense for half an hour it would be great to be able to just cut her connection so everyone else is able to concentrate again…

I can see that this is a hot issue… maybe rising to the level of a political action point…

For example… I’ve been in the back of cabs all too often, easily 50+ in the USA and UK both, where the driver is on a cell phone and driving on the brink of dangerously, putting me, himself, pedestrians, and other drivers at risk of grave harm…

Question: should I be able to surreptitiously interrupt his phone activities when I am a paying customer and his behavior is unacceptably self indulgent, potentially landing me in a 2 year physical rehabilitation program if I happen to be injured ? Who has the dominant right of way in this scenario ?

Question 2: I love to go over to Barnes and Noble and spend time browsing… B&N is supposed to be a bookstore. Many go there for on other reason than to get off the street (because it is quieter!) and then LOUDLY stand in the middle of an aislee and talk aimless trash. Should I be able to assert my interests over theirs ? Do they have a natural right to use any venue for their own purposes ?

Question #3. A lulu. Terrorists have rather wickedly and ingeniously learned that cell phones make excellent bomb detonators, especially when you want to co-ordinate explosions in widespread patters. Assume you were on a train in Madrid
(a series of coordinated bombings against the Cercanías (commuter train) system of Madrid, Spain on the morning of 11 March 2004 (three days before Spain’s general elections), killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.)

And a questionable passenger leaves a large backpack at the other end of the car. It’s a new, high quality backpack, large and obviously stuffed with something. The passenger left the car in a rush and made no attempt to look for the backpack before exiting. You have a cell jammer on your person. Should you activate it ? :confused: :confused: :confused:

It’s not a black or white issue, that’s clear..

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If we take the technology out of the equation, and use the theater example:

Someone in the audience has a small child who begins to talk so loudly that the entire performance is disturbed. The parents should take control here, but if they don’t then the management should intervene. Other audience members with well-behaved children are not affected.

If someone were to place bags filled with feathers over the heads of all children to prevent this, I’m sure it would not be appreciated and that person would likely be arrested.

Your personal freedom ends when it affects someone else, regardless of what the other person is doing. The guy with the jammer is no better than the person he’s jamming. There are legitimate uses for this device, but vigilantism is not one of them. Jam a doctor’s cell phone when he’s on emergency call and you’ve just possibly cost someone’s life.

Its easy to say the solution is people just need to be more considerate with their phone usage; doesn’t really accomplish anything. It’s never going to happen. If anything it will only continue to get worse. It should also be pointed out that numerous places like Japan (mentioned because they are even more cellphone gadget obsessed) it is entirely legal to use jammers. Just put up a sign informing people and they can jam all they want. Every theater in America should be able to put up a sign and jam cell phones.

Putting up signs asking people to cool it with their phones didn’t stop theater interruptions. Asking people before the play and during intermission did not stop interruptions. After a while they were so angry that they would stop the play and publicly shame the interruptor. That actually worked, but only for that night. The next night would have interruptions, and then the next and the next. Point is very simple, if you think common human decency will solve the problem, you are wrong. Technology created the problem, technology offers a way to fight back.