I’ve been resisting doing a pheromone journal for a while because yada yada, blah blah blah, but whatever. Let’s do it… maybe this will help force me to get out there and use what pheromones I have more.
Yesterday I wore 2.50 mcg of P75us Maximus. The test subject was a female I have written about before; married has kids, etc. She really likes this phero at this dose and 3.75 mcg and it makes me much more openly flirtatious with her and her much more responsive to my flirtations.
She does a good job of hiding it, but I can tell that if she wasn’t married, I’d have no trouble taking her to he next level or three using this pheromone. I think she and I are compatible enough for that to happen on its own, if she were not married, but when I wear P75 around her, the interest goes right up there and she starts showing signs of both strong attraction (as in LTR type relational) and sexual arousal. The sexual arousal would be easy to take much further if I wasn’t respecting her marriage, but I don’t fan the flames at all when she responds that way.
What fascinates me is how it seems to take the situation from 20% saturation to 80% saturation to use a euphemism from photography. Much more interest, much more obvious interest, much more obvious flirtation much more obvious connection.
I have not had the opportunity to spend as much close contact time with other women while wearing this mone, and I don’t think all women are as compatible with my masculine/attraction style as she is, but P75 definitely produces the right results for taking things much faster with her than they would go otherwise.
Naturally, I don’t touch taken, so nothing happens between us. I only torture her with my P75 once in a while.
YES! I’m the first to reply to what will surely be a great journal.
Catlord I’m quite curious, based off your experiences with P75 would you say that it’s and effective TUTH replacement? I know that with time P75 can really get a girl’s motor running however I still haven’t trained myself to detect this arousal. It must take place after a considerable amount of time, be extremely hard to pinpoint or require very close interactions.
It isn’t a direct replacement for TUTH. It is so different that it is its own thing. It actually seems to me to be a closer analog to Ammunition, really, which is odd because I understand that Ammunition is 3 or more pheromones, including none rone and nol. Ammo has a light happy feel, though, where as P75 is very “Scorpionic” - dark, intense and serious. Although once you get used to it it isn’t really dark and becomes less serious… instead, it’s a sort of baseline confidence and masculine solidity, centered-ness and presence that is so organic as to be noticeable only upon looking back.
I think that is why some people who have tried it think it only lasts for a little while - because the effect becomes too organic to really notice.
P75 is great stuff. I got the chance to test it on my ex today at 2.5 mcg. She’s a natural redhead with freckles. About as redheaded as they come. And she was definitely liking it also. She and the other woman I have tried it on both have something in common: Venus in Aries. That means they find strong men attractive, among other things. I suspect P75 will require a personality that can handle and appreciates a definite strength of masculine presence.
My ex was practically doing tricks on command today. I was playing with her being cocky funny, just for shits and giggles, not expecting anything but a laugh. She borught me a chocolate bunny to apologize for yesterday;s April Fool’s joke, and while I was driving down the road I suddenly took my hands off the wheel and started unboxing the chocolate. “Better steer, wench,” I said. I expected a “Ha ha, very funny asshole!” and a punch on the arm. Instead, she took the wheel and said, “I’m not a wench!”
“Yes you are.” Then, trying to push my luck too far to force the humor I was trying to go for to break out I called her a “slut wench”. Now usually she would do something like punch me, slap me, poke me too hard, tell me to fuck off, call me an arrogant jerk, whatever. Then we would all laugh and on to the next dig. It’s a sort of back and forth between us, getting digs in at each other and poking fun at each other.
So I call her a slut wench expecting a prompt slap across the face and instead she turns bright red and says (with a very guilty look on her face) “Ah! I am not!”
This immediately tells me two things.
She is horny and hot and ready and thinking naughty things and thinks I know she is… and
She is responding to the pheromones and wants to be a “slut wench” for me.
Okay, so I pushed my luck and it worked. No humor is coming from this, but I am starting to wonder just how far I can push this. So I tell her I know she wants me and that she can’t have me because “I don’t feel like doing you”. Now mind you, she’s steering the car obediently while I casually eat my chocolate rabbit and operate the foot pedals. She responds with mock upset because now she wants to “be done” and me telling her I won’t has her protesting.
Now I’m thinking this P75 is magic juice. I’m wondering how much I can get away with, so I eat the rabbit slowly, and keep jibing her about “you might want to stay in the lines… I don’t need to get a ticket because you’re a crappy driver, yanno.” she instead of punching me and smacking me like she normally would, she’s going along with it and trying harder to steer straight!
So I finally finish the chocolate and take the wheel back, saying “I now return to control of my car.” in as arrogant a tone as I can while still being funny, and she says, “Thank God, I was getting tired of that.” Whereupon I immediately take my hands off the wheel, grab the water bottle and start casually drinking, and act as if nothing is wrong. She grabs the wheel again and again obediently starts steering, without complaint. It is at that point that I realize that I can effectively do as I please wearing this stuff!
I pushed it to the limit and when I started sensing I was about to go too far I left her alone at the beach and went off to record some video of the ocean. When I get back, she’s being all lovey dovey and making very obvious advances and suggestive comments. So I untied the side of her bikini by pulling out the knot. “Whoops,” I say flatly as if to mock the “accidental” nature of what I just did. She protests, and re-ties it. I untie it again with a quick pull. “Whoopsie.” She ties it. I pull the knot out again. “Whoops! There it goes again!” and she ties it without complaint. And I do it again… and she re-ties it, protesting that people might see. Not that she’s getting annoyed… she’s protesting because someone might see me being the lascivious bastard I was being, and she wants it, but doesn’t want to do it in front of everyone.
I must have untied it six more times. Her only complaint was that someone might see. Never that it was getting old.
It was like I could do no wrong. She did whatever I told her to do, and even started saying “Jeez, do I have to do everything you say?” To which I said “Yep.” without missing a beat and told her to do something else… which she did.
Eventually I stopped pushing my luck because I was way over the line of cocky funny into selfish bastard in my efforts to see just what I could get away with, and I didn’t want her to start thinking I was an arrogant prick. But wow!
Not every woman would respond that way, I am sure, but P75 has amazing effects on me, and on them too. Me likey.
Good of you to start a journal. Your reports are usually good and the second one here made for an interesting read. Im still getting a grip on p75’s “personality” and this report has given me a clearer picture. Just out of curiosity, what personality type and zodiac star are these two women? Explain the concept of venus in aries to me. Google was useless.
On a side note, one of the women that responded very well to p75 when i was wearing it happened to be an aries.
Subscribing. Good to see you’ve got a journal Cat - I’ve missed the big ‘panty scorcher’ journal.
Have you tried p80? I find that molecule to be incredibly dark. As far as self effects go it feels to be quite similar to p75. How it effects others though is scary - I’ve never seen men shy away, avert their gaze or look so intimidated before. A very dark molecule and I haven’t worn in a while for that very reason. p75 I find to be much more balanced. I’ve likened it to arnold Schwarzenegger before - masculine, muscular, strong presence and confident, yet also smiley, intelligent and approachable.
Astrology is a very useful study for understanding people, communicating with them, understanding how you get along with (and fail to get along with) others, and seduction. It’s a lot more in-depth than I can reasonably explain here, but because you asked, I’ll give you a little information as it pertains. But you’re right, Google isn’t usually very useful. I learned most of what I know by using an ephemeris or a birth chart and correlating what I saw in the person to what I saw in the chart/ephemeris. I have discovered a lot of stuff that’s not in books that way.
Anyway, J has a lot of Aries energy in her chart (4 planets) but this is balanced with a lot of Taurus energy. Aries is the 1st sign of the Zodiac and Taurus is the 2nd. It is a rule that every sign is nearly the reverse in characteristics of the sign preceding it, so whereas Aries is passionate and adventurous and impatient and bold to the point of foolhardy sometimes, doesn’t really think things through and tends to have an aggressive streak and an explosive (but short lived) temper, Taurus is virtually the opposite, being slow, steady, patient, difficult to get riled up, calm, sensual, cautious… mix them together like in J’s chart and you get a woman who is strong and confident, but is not careless about expressing it, and is usually understating what is really there.
My ex, L, is a Pisces by Sun, but has Venus in Aries. Pisces is a mutable Water sign which means that they are primarily focused through the emotions (water) and there tends to be a chaotic unpredictable dualism and diffusion to them. Pisces by itself is very emotionally sensitive, shy, retiring, and tends to insecurity, feelings of guilt and shame for sometimes ridiculous reasons, and self doubt. Other factors in a chart will of course modify the expression of the Sun’s placement.
Venus in all this is the planet that represents, in a woman’s chart, her essential femininity, her feminine style, what she considers beautiful and how she appreciates and responds to beauty, what she is looking for in love, and how she expresses her love.
Remember, Aries is passionate, aggressive, direct bold, forthright, fearless, adventurous, impatient, wants to be first (or at the forefront at least), and is usually argumentative but doesn’t have the staying power to argue very long.
So Venus in Aries has these qualities as the feminine style and love style. These women are strong, aggressive direct, bold, forthright and fearless when it comes to being a woman, and being in love. Venus also rules about half of the sexual expression and temperament, meaning they also very much like sex and want sex, and are none too shy about these facts.
L’s Sun in Pisces mitigates this by focusing the expression through a shy and retiring Pisces Sun placement that forces her to be insecure and second guess herself constantly, always being afraid that whatever went wrong is “her fault”, almost as if she wants to be guilty and suffer for it. (Pisces is the sign ruling martyrdom.) But her core feminine style is still direct and she very much appreciates a man who speaks her language by being direct aggressive and bold.
Furthermore, all Fire signs (Aries, Leo and Sagittarius) are prone to too much self awareness, which in turn can translate to arrogance, egocentricism, cockiness an selfishness if the person dealing with these energies is not taking care to reign them in. Ego clashes with ego, so J (who has Sun in Aries cusping Taurus) notices this more than a little when I jibe her, but she understands it and as long as I can back it up with action, she accepts it as boldness and confidence. L, having her Sun in Pisces, is approaching from a submissive standpoint, so she doesn’t take much issue with it, as she perceives me as dominant and again concludes that because I can back it up with action it is just another display of my dominance.
In essence, a pheromone will be well received by a woman who has a personality that is harmonious to the effects it produces.
Remember I said that P75 is Scorpionic? Scorpio rules sex, secrets, power, and “the dirty hidden underbelly of things”. Dark, dangerous, powerful, sexual and organic - that’s P75 for ya.
Now this pheromone isn’t going to work the same for everyone because not everyone has the personality to pull it off, of course, and because not everyone is dealing with people who already mesh well with them. These two women mesh well with me to begin with, but neither is as interested or aroused by me without P75. I haven’t had much chance to test P75 on strangers yet. The challenge will come from the fact that it requires enough exposure time.
Women who have Venus in Aries strongly tend to be highly sexed and it is usually easy to get them to have sex with you if you approach them properly. Because this is true, they have a tendency to have had many lovers in the past, and may earn themselves a label of “slut”. J is very well balanced between Taurus and Aries, so she has only ever had sex with her husband, and focuses her sexual aggression on him. (Taurus is nothing if not loyal, faithful and steadfast.)
L enjoys being called a slut, but is very sensitive to being called a slut at the same time. She wants me to respect her, but she also wants to be free to enjoy her sexuality. To allow for that, I told her that being a public slut is a bad thing, but men enjoy a woman who is both faithful and sexual with them. Since she is not the type to cheat, ever, but she is a sexual hedonist, I told her that she is a private slut, which is desirable and respectable. Now she has the safety of being able to express herself sexually as she pleases and doesn’t have to worry about her reputation. If she had her Sun in Aries and it wasn’t cusping anything, she would probably be quite brazen about her sexuality and would not care who thought what about her.
Part of how I get such good pheromone results is the fact that I do use astrology to help me understand not just how to communicate with a woman an how she thinks but what her sexual style is, what turns her on, and what she is looking for in a man. If L had Venus in Pisces, for instance I would know that a direct, strong and aggressive pheromone signature would be overbearing to her unless she had Mars (the other planet dealing with sexuality) in a Fire (or possibly Air) sign. Fire and Air are elements of the Positive polarity, while Water and earth are of the Negative polarity. Read positive as “projective” and negative as “receptive” in this case. Pisces is very sensitive emotionally, and is the 12th sign of the Zodiac; this means Aries is the one after it, and you will recall that it is a rule that every sign is almost the opposite of the one after it. Pisces is shy and reserved, dualistic and diffuse sensitive and emotional. Aries is focused and direct, singular and aggressive, bold and outgoing. So a better pheromone for attracting or arousing a Venus in Pisces woman would have the qualities of Pisces. It would be gentle, subtle, diffuse, and produce an emotional warmth and comfort. Sounds like EST and MEO-EST and A1 to me.
A natal chart is a complex thing. Sun placement only tells you a small hint about the whole thing. No single planet will tell you a lot, because it’s not one single planet (personality aspect) we are dealing with in a person. We are dealing with the conglomerate whole. So you must consider everything and know how to mesh them all. However, knowing the location of just the Sun, Moon Mercury Venus and Mars (and sometimes Saturn) in a person’s chart, and understanding what these things mean, can give you a huge advantage in not only knowing how to deal with them, what their thinking style is, how they fall in love, what they want in a partner, and what turns them on sexually, but it will tell you what pheromone or pheromones will tend to mesh best with, and get the best results from, that person.
You can even trigger specific personality aspects with focused pheromones. Let’s take a friend of mine for example. She has Sun in Aquarius, Moon in Aries, Mercury in Aquarius, Venus in Pisces Mars in Sagittarius. If I want her to fall in love with me, I would look at her Venus and Mars placements. Venus is love style and what makes her fall in love. Mars is what she is looking for in a man’s personality. So I would need something that makes her feel on dreamy, safe, warm feelings (Venus in Pisces) while mking me come across as strong direct adventurous and bold (Mars in Sagittarius).
If I want this girl to simply have sex with me, I just use the pheromones that reflect the energy of Mars in Sag and perhaps Mercury in Aquarius and possibly Venus, too if it is compatible with her Mars sign. If I want to be her friend, I focus on her Sun and Mercury (Aquarius rules friendship) and use communicational pheromones (Aquarius is Air the element that rules the mind and communication). And so forth.
Very interesting. I’ll have to see about that. I do have some P80. Sounds interesting… I wonder, at what doses did you use it? Perhaps it is a very sensitive one like P5 and needs a specific dose to show it’s best side. Gonna have to play with it.
That was informational, to say the least. I would nominate the post if privacy wasnt an issue. Thanks alot. Suffice it to say im going to be doing some research on this matter.
Astrology is a subject (science?) that will take you a lifetime to discover and you’ll never learn a fraction of all of it. But it is most defintely worthwhile to study. I suggest you study natal astrology first. That’s the astrology that maps the personality. Synastric astrology (how people inter-relate) is also very useful, but requires a good working knowledge of natal astrology first.
I just took a shower and have applied 10 mcg of P80. This is the dose my calculator suggested would have the most positive results for me. More when I get back from dinner.
P80 has definitely got some interesting effects on me. But it doesn’t seem to be “dark” at 10 mcg. It made me respond with more masculine centeredness, confidence, and I guess the word is “boisterousness”. I found myself feeling very confident and talking too loudly. It was as if I naturally expanded in masculine presence and all attention was on me… the wait staff looked at me while asking other people what they wanted, as if I was going to answer for them. I had to defer several times to those older than me out of courtesy, lest I have been the one the wait staff expected to do all the ordering.
I also found myself “hunting” with my eyes. Noticing people around me more… and especially the female people. Even more especially, their chests and butts. It was unusual because I don’t typically focus on and stare at these body parts like this… I like them, but this was ridiculous. I wasn’t even horny! My waitress at one point noticed me looking at her cleavage while she was bent over trying to speak louder for my grandfather and began covering up, and I began wondering what was with me, staring so blatantly. Beautiful cleavage, sure, but come on… there was no tact there until I realized what I was doing, and only when she covered up did it cross my mind.
Then there was the waitress with the great behind I kept staring at. Whew, what curves. Made me want to go ask her out.
So P80 is definitely masculine, and seems to be sexual, but didn’t make me sexually aroused. It did make me focus on stare at and want to pursue women for their curves. I also got the impression that I should have worn more to get the main effect.
It was me, my grandfather and my mother. The three of us normally have much more conversation than we did today. It was mostly no talking. That also caught my attention.
Awesome journal. Looks like I’ll be buying some Scorpio p75. I have taken in consideration the pheros I wear with the astrology of the person I am most interested in, however I never thought to equate pheros themselves as astrological traits… I have Sun and Moon in Aquarius, Scorpio rising, Mercury in Capricorn, Venus and Mars in Pisces… Perhaps a suggestion or two of what to wear comes to mind? I have a dilemma with approaching pheros, do I wear them in a way that would best enhance my astrological traits, or wear them for what best enhances what my target finds astrologically appealing? I know I should go with what best enhances me, but I love to reaffirm astrological traits and pheromone effects on other people besides within myself…
The best thing to do is understand your own signature style of attraction and seduction. Then, determine what it is that you best attract women with… and then focus on that for both your sake and theirs.
That requires a very good understanding of your own chart and the charts of those you attract and what they all share in common.
Consider this. Aquarius is Air. Air is communicative. Aquarius rules friendship. Suggests Alpha Nol.
Scorpio is Water. Water is emotional. Scorpio rules mysteries, sex and power. Suggests P75.
Capricorn is Earth. Earth is physical. Capricorn rules business and pragmatism. Suggests androsterone or -rone based products.
Pisces is Water. Water is Emotional. Pisces rules illusions and dreams among a lot of other things. Suggests Beta Nol, perhaps P103 and EST/MEO-EST.
I’m not fully versed in all the P’s, so take his as a suggestion for getting started. Astro-pheromon-ology is a study we are inventing right here, right now. I don’t have all the answers. Help me find them.
Awww I want a astrology reading now. I didn’t think I’d ever run across a person or people that were interested in natal charts or astrology in general. Most people I talk to about it think its hocus pocus.
After looking at my natal chart again honestly my stars are aligned very wacky My personality is so contradicting I don’t know what to do with it. Astro-pheromon-ology sounds like a great concept and I’d love to be a part of it.
Sun - Libra
Rising - Cancer
Moon - Capricorn
Venus - Libra
Mercury - Scorpio
Mars - Virgo
Well… I certainly had no intention of inventing a new branch of astrological study when I started this thread, but I suppose that I am being led to something here by the responses I am getting, so okay, I’ll play along.
Olfact Amorous, I’m not planning on “giving readings”. I’m just sharing a tool I use, and a correlation between that tool and pheromones. What pheromones do you think make sense for your planet/placements?
Alphonse, I currently do not do ritual work. Instead, I am focused on study and research. How much have we not found because everyone followed in the footsteps of those before them?
Anyway, let’s start putting together a chart of pheromonal associations starting with polarity. I propose the following:
Positive/Yang/Active:
Androstenone
Alpha Androstenol
TAA
TAC
TAL
P79
P83
Negative/Yin/Passive:
Androsterone
Androstedienone
P74
P75 (If we hold to the Scorpio associations)
P96
Meo-Est
Beta Androstenol
TAC
TAK
TAH
P86
P93
Copulins
And by associated element:
FIRE:/Passionate:
Androstenone
P83
EARTH/Practical:
Androsterone
AIR/Intellectual:
Alpha Androstenol
TAA
WATER/Emotional:
Beta Androstenol
P75 (if we hold to the Scorpio associations)
Androstedienone
This is neither complete nor set in stone. If you have additions, or suggestions, or disagree on something let’s contemplate it further.
I get you I was just kidding about the whole reading thing. I guess the idea is intriguing because it seems like you would pick a pheromone signature to accentuate your strengths.
Libra Sun - P74/TAC to promote a harmonious standing between me and others.
Cancer Rising - A-1, MEO EST, EST, Beta nol help me foster the calm collected protective stance I want to have with people I care about.
Moon in Capricorn - P103, P104, To help me think less and feel more when it comes to emotions and to lessen the harboring of pessimistic undertones in my own personality.
Mercury in Scorpio - TAF to help me in my endless quest to analyze and investigate and P75 to indirectly ground me from emotional outburst due to my imposing presence to subdue wisecrackers and antagonizers.
Venus in Libra - P91 to enhance that suave demeanor. P86 because for a libra life without beauty isn’t life at all.
Hi Catlord! It will be interesting to know more about the function of your calculator. It seems that you sometimes even use it to suggest doses of pheromone molecules that you haven’t tried yet. This is intriguing. Can you shed some light?
Your choices fascinate me. Given its hypnotic tendencies, I would have given P103 to Pisces for instance. Although helping to offset the “dryness” of earth with Water does make sense. And TAF for Scorpio? It seems more earthy to me. But P86 seems perfectly suited in Libra, indeed.
I suspected you had no need of any “reading” from me. lol
Tell me, how would you combine such as you chose for yourself, and why?
My personality is so contradicting I don’t know what to do with it. Astro-pheromon-ology sounds like a great concept and I’d love to be a part of it.