Do you think it really smells BO or just heavy (too) heavy fragrance? I remember the first time I wore MX353, my girlfriend said she could still smell my sillage very strong in the house 10 minutes after I left to get lunch outside, which is insane. It was not in hot weather, but inside a heated home in winter (near 72F). That’s why I’d be hesitant to wear more than 2 sprays. This is a sillage beast for sure, the stronger smelling product I have worn so far. Not bad, just damn strong
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I dont think its the fragrance, I think its the -mones. I can sort of smell -none, but not like some people. This is very strong. It feels like it has a shitload of mones in it. I only get phero rush from really strong pheros and mixes. Thats how I know. Its not a problem, you just need a good cover, and let it dry down.
I just love TAC as it works wonders and if used right I find I can use it at work to in ver low doses like 5 MCG with good luck.
Nice report
Justintime, yes it is one of my favorites. It is probably the easiest pheromone to learn how to use. Plays well with others… Yesterday afternoon I had a networking event at a client’s office. I wore two drops of A314, one drop behind each ear, and about 30 MCG of tac sprayed on Adam’s apple, and side of neck. I got tons of respect hits which is per the usual with A314, but the tac lightened the edge of it, and gave it a little bit of a sexy vibe. Engaging in conversation with multiple females with ease and confidence.
I am thinking of using A314/TAC/P74 for my new job and seeing what I get. TAC just seems to smooth over just about anything.
P75 and Tuth
-10mcg P75
-2 sprays Tuth
Cocktail party-Business thing
I was invited to a corporate thing downtown last week. It was for a friend of mine who joined a new company and they were throwing a welcome cocktail party for him. So I threw the suit on, and decided to wear something a little sexual forward with my mones.
There were about 50 people there when I got there. I grabbed a glass of red wine and started working the room. I saw my friend and went over and talked to him for a while. He introduced me to about five or six people, one of which was a lady about 45 years old, curly brunette, very petite-like 105 pounds petite. She kind of clung onto me for a while. Her eyes were super dilated, almost completely black which was a little weird. She was rapidfire asking me questions about myself, flirting occasionally, and more than once touched me on my arm while she was talking. I eventually excused myself to use the men’s room and when I came back I started talking to some other people. About 10 minutes later I saw her eyeing me from the other side of the room. Eventually she works her way over to me and asked me if I needed another drink, she was heading that way. I said sure, told her red wine would be nice. Then there was a pregnant cause and she had a weird look. I then realized she wanted me to come with her so I quickly recover and said “I’ll come with you”. She smiled and said great.
We ended up talking for another half-hour and she asked me for a business card which I gave her. She asked me if she could call me sometime and continue the conversation. I said sure anytime. Fast forward-she called me the next day and about seven times since. We are going out to dinner this weekend.
In summary, this woman hit hard on this mix from the minute she walked into my cloud. I believe there was some attraction there any way, but the mix really broke the ice.
I find that P75 will work on a wide age group, young and older. To drive it towards older women the tuth seems to work well with this. I will check in later and let you know how it goes with her.
Great hit. I agree with you 100% on P75. It’s great stuff and very versatile.
Glad to see you back.
Wow great hits. I am surprised at 10MCG and some TUTH to with no buffer.
I felt like a weirdo being the only one to be able to pull this off
! I feel much better now (lol).
Yeah I noticed that too. Normally I would buffer that mix with something. I cant remember, but I was probably looking for something that hit hard as there would be a crowd of people, and you can get away with harder hitting mixes in those environments.
I have a Scot businessman coming into town today on business. He is staying downtown at a swanky hotel. Im meeting him there for a late dinner and some Friday night business.
Plan:
2 drops A314
60mcg P83
20mcg TAC
4 spray Instant honesty
After dinner and some successful business talk, maybe a walk 2 blocks away where there is a 3 day Prince Memorial Street Dance party going on outside of First Avenue (Bar where Purple Rain was filmed). Should be a few gals lettin loose on the streets of Minneapolis tonight..![]()
Backup, in my pocket for later:
-togo of Tuth
-bottle of P83/P103 Oil (Yes you heard me correctly!)
Details later…
I’m wondering if you survived the 3 day Prince Memorial Street Dance party… ![]()
He probably partyed like it’s 1999 ![]()
Hi Brasileira,
I did survive. I met my business contact at his hotel and we went down to the restaurant for a late dinner (830pm) He hadnt made a reservation so we had to wait in the bar. This bar is normally very dark with light red lighting. They had changed the bulbs to violet which gave the whole bar a surreal yet very sexy vibe. They have a dance floor in there for later and the ladies were already starting to file in. All dressed in upscale sexy club attire.
They finally got us a table around 915pm and we had a leisurely dinner and quite honestly I lost track of time. That might have been the high dose of P83 I had on. We finished dinner at almost 11pm! I guess I should have noticed the waiters staring at me to finish up and get out so they could go home, but I kind of didnt care. The hell if Im gonna get the bums rush at a place that charges $80 for steak!
Over dinner we discussed business and moved a deal along that we are working on with him. Good discussion, very fluid. Honest. Productive. The waiter came and gave me the check even though the guy I was with asked him for the check. (A314) He insisted that he would pay for it so I let him.
After dinner we needed to walk it off a bit, so I suggested we wander down to First Ave (The Bar) and do some people watching. He wanted to get his picture taken next to the painted star on the side of the bar with Prince’s name on it. (When a band plays First Ave and makes it big they put a star on the outside wall with their name on it.) When we got there there were thousands of people outside the bar, spilling into the street and the line to get in the bar went literally around the bar. That is the most people I think Ive ever seen walking around downtown.
Well he was tired from the long trip and the late dinner and wanted to get to bed so we went back to his hotel. I said goodbye and he went up to his room. I ducked into the bathroom to do my thing before I drive the 15 miles home to the suburbs. I walk in and there are 3 gals in there , drunk, laughing. I thought for a minute I was in the wrong bathroom but I saw the urinals that confirmed I was in the right spot. I just said hello ladies and walked up to the urinals and peed. They struck up a conversation with me and asked me if I was coming back into the bar. I said no I was heading home. They insisted I come back and dance with them, so I did. Next thing it is 2 am and I am beat. One gal took a liking to me and danced me around the whole last hour. She asked me if I would drive her home, so I did…to my home! ![]()
This was an interesting mix. The A314 worked well at the business meeting, and the IH got him spilling the beans. Later, the IH and TAC got the ladies talking and telling me stuff they probably shouldnt have. And the high dose P83 got them pretty uninhibited. I would just consciously ask them personal stuff and they would answer. It was kind of fun. “What color is your underwear?” She says, “Who says Im wearing any?” lol …on and on.
I never got to spraying any tuth on. She was good to go without it.
Pic of memorial:
LMAO good one Conj
I just read threw your whole journal and love your style and testing. This particular post really caught my eye as there are few good ones about IJ so I had to nominate it as I have not nominated a post in a while. I appreciate all your testing and reports.
P83 Oil recipe
So, its starting to get really warm and muggy here in the Twin Towns, which means phero sprays, and spray mixes dont last as long. The added body and environmental heat gets them to fly off your body faster, and the remaining -mones on you body break down, especially -none. What can be done?
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-Wash, rinse, repeat…when they break down and start smelling nasty you can simply go to the bathroom and wash them off and re-apply. In the summer, I try and to only apply mones on my arms, from the elbow down. This makes it easier to wash them off in public. Pulse points for application are less important when its warm out. Diffusion is not a problem in the heat.
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Another solution to mones not lasting as long, is to use oils instead of alcohol based sprays. Currently, to my knowledge, A314 is the only Androtics Oil available on the store currently. So if you want more oil choices, you will have to make your own. I have boned up on how to to this and will share below for those that are so inclined.
I decided to start by making an oil with a phero I use almost everyday with most of my mixes that I sport. P83. I love the effects, and how it ties different mixes together without Ghosting it out. I used a phero calculator that I downloaded from another phero site. If you want the link, just PM me and I will give it to you. Below is the calculation output for a 20mcg P83 oil:
P83 oil @ 20mcg
No. of Components in the mix: 1
Bottle size (ml): 10.0
Bottle ml/drop: 0.018
Available Components
P83:: Delivery: 0.125 ml/spray; Available Dose: 100 mcg/spray; Desired mcg/drop: 20
Alcohol:: Delivery: 0.125 ml/drop
Mix Proportions Required
P83:: Required Quantity: 6.9 ml;
Oil:: Required Quantity: 3.1 ml
Output mcg/dose: 19.872
No. of drops required to get the desired dose: 2
So to summarize, here is how I mixed it up:
-I bought a 30ml bottle of P83 at 100mcg.
-I am using an old empty bottle of A314. (10ml bottle) Cleaned out with Iso alc.
-7ml of 100mcg P83
-3ml of Almond Oil
-3 drops Ambergris Tincture
-3 drops Jasmine (Sambac) EO
-3 drops Jasmine (Grandiflorum) EO
I added the Ambergris as a fixative, and the jasmine for the scent.
Because the original P83 component is mixed with alcohol, and the rest of the mix is oils, it separates when its been sitting a while, so I have to shake it really good a few times before application to mix it up.
I used almond oil because I had some laying around, but you could sub in DPG if that is what you have. Also feel free to use an alternate essential oil to customize the scent to your liking.
Also note that to get close to the 20mcg dose with this mix, you need to use 2 drops.
I am finding that this P83 oil lasts me about 6-7 hours no problem, even in warm weather.
Many thanks to Mobocaster for his help on this, and for checking my math. Cheers mate!
Wow great as I am totally into EO. I never mixed any with pheromones because I worry they might mess with the diffusion if they are heavier then the phero or have anti bacterial properties. I have found the best EO for attracting for be to be ylang, rose, neroli, jasmine, and orange. Especially the ylang oil. I am sure there are a lot more and have found a lot of great info on these.
I will PM you sometime and would like the link. If this works out this would be a huge game changer for me. I live in southern AZ and lately it has been 110 and yes these things don’t last long.
Good to see you! Interesting about essential oils. I have almond oil and right now peppermint and eucalyptus (I had been sick and put the eucalyptus in the bathwater). I have never mixed my own oils but why not, I guess.
You know I’m sensitive to scents, the only one I really like in close quarters is lavender oil. Do you think it matters which oil you mix with? I’m thinking of mixing lavender oil with the P78. Hmmm. ![]()
Hi Light of the Moon,
Lavender should work fine, plus it smells awesome. One of my favorites. You can use pretty much whatever EO you can tolerate wearing. Not sure you want to use Eucalyptus but hey, if thats what you want to smell like, knock yourself out.
The EO will help with diffusion. As far as oils, Almond oil is my favorite, but you can use any oil that you can put on your skin. Thicker oils will extend the release time, lighter oils a little less. I personally like lighter oils. Next I am going to try an oil mix with a bottle of Manoi I have. Might be good for summer use, and will also help getting some color on my lily-white Irish ass! ![]()
