Chin up von

Ok I’m going to attempt to recall what happened this weekend… Friday I went out wearing
2 a314
2 x tac tuth top up (2.5 mcg enone)
2.5 - 3 shine/ p130 top up
40 mcg p96
1x honesty

Topped up 2 sprays tac/tuth at the venue. We had some middle aged ladies as friends of friends wives and they were great. Got bought an insane amount of drinks, at least 5. I was getting amazing hugs and and even back rubs.. Loadsa respect from the husbands too, they were all quality guys, we talking the 40s crowd.. Wasn’t getting alot of attention from the younger girls, but a little. Starting to think a314 is a bit standoffish with younger girls, I do think they like it but I think it scares them a little and you have to do the aggressiving and all the work. Now older women just love it and are physically drawn in. What can I say , I had an amazing night, up til 9 the next day went to a pub, a club and three other peoples houses. woke up in a friends kids bunk bed at 3pm sprayed some more shine/p130 top up went solo through town. Saw a sisters friend and had a good catch up, she said I looked good and healthy. I went for a pint in some festival tent and bumped into one of the cougers from the other night. I bought her one pint then she bought me some josticts I then met her extended family and got bought 2 more pints. Went down very well with all of them, had to excuse myself to go home have ashower and change clothes. Was a quick pit stop. I then sprayed …
4x ammo
60 mcg p96
Went to pub and met some friends, ex gf from when I was 17 and her friend, and her mum.. Big lol… Seriously long boob pressed hug on arrival, her mum was hitting on me a lot… But to be fair 10mcg of enone on you turns you into mr big balls.. I can’t help but be confident and commanding. People can’t help but be intrigued in you and smile at you,bring out their best stories/ facts and introduce you to their friends.the mum wanted to show me her dance moves dragged me up and just ending up hugging me and doing a slow dance with me… So much fun.. She tried to give me her card, the daughter buts in “why are you giving him your number” she replies “why do you want my number” then I say “I don’t know you were giving me your number”… She was on auto pilot… I can imagine as an older man it would be easy to pick up older women with enone… We then accumulated a good pre drinks party at friends house… Got smashed… Guy was rapping for ages, very entertaining… All was going good think I sprayed a buffer shine top up, was getting pretty good attention from the girls. We then ordered 3 taxis went to a drum and bass night at 1am… I was getting a lot of attention from girls, and for once the young ones! Young girls do love enone when intoxicated and in high dosage. Note lots of p96, no guys were agrressive to me… Lots of smiley fist bumps.. Bouncers liked me.. I pulled a hot blonde at the bar… She invaded my space gradually, we introduced ourselves, she looked game so I said “give us a kiss then” and I got a good French one… Then a sexy dance and another kiss.. I then lost her into the ether. Was getting more attention after that, one of my friends even commented on it… I was pulling great shapes though and grinning ear to ear… Yep I’m that guy, sleep is for the week… Week days lol.. Young girls were smiling at me on the dance floor.. One girl was kinda seeking me and me her but people kept getting in the way. I couldt tell wether the guy was her bf or not. So I pinched her ass when walking by.. Great night, spent an absolute fortune and recovering now.. But the party still hasn’t ended this weekend.. Old best friend just texted me, he’s coming down to smash it up Sunday night with me.. Sigh..

I also tried 20mcg p96 over mx297 and ammo and noticed Hispanic interest jn the day.. I love me some p96 the more the better!

ok i think i’ve been putting too much ingredients in the cake mix..
my theories based on what works for me keeps changing drastically.. lets take enone for example.. in the right setting a large amount 5-20 mcg goes down well.. you will get what you want.. i used to dot about 15-20mcg straight enone on to shirt collar and a little on my chest to great effect on my ex… but really it was a special occasion thing when we were younger and when she got to 27-28 it really started to aggrivate her…. it isn’t like a sliding scale where older women like higher dosages and younger lower doses.. I’m finding its more like girls like high dosages of enone when young, then around 28 they switch to liking erone.. and then even older likes both in high quantities…. now sometimes i am finding lower doses, 1-2 sprays ammo, can aggrivate the age of some of the girls i’m interested in. but then double that dose and you get the response i’m looking for. its like you are either a annoying distraction or the centre of her infatuation… enone is so hit and miss i myself am getting mixed emotions about it. and i’m also finding erone a bit too serious.. i was surprised how 4 sprays of ammo got me good attention from younger girls saturday night..

i think now, as i’m a single lonely guy, it’s all about phero bombing. so when i go out i need something that goes bam, who is this guy i’m not going to leave his presence tell me what to do… like 10-20mcg enone… with complicated mixes with loadsa buffers i am having a great time and everyone is treating good, which is nice, but not essentially what i’m looking for…

like for example last night i dragged myself out wearing
1 a314
2 x ammo
2 x shine
60 mcg p96
10 mcg tac
20 mcg p83

now i did not really get any sexual hits and it was a long night…. i mainly found it easy to make male friends…. sigh… they were really cool etc blah blah. women were nice but there was no real draw going on, if anything a slight repulsion…. well that’s not totally true slovakian girl was kinda jumping all over me, but all in front of her bf (not sure)… got a discount on entry to a club as the girl there was the one who was showing me all that unwanted attention at the house party i crashed a few weeks back with mx297.. i got two of us in for a tenner without saying anything, should have been 8 quid each… she didn’t seek me out at all through the night tho. i was mainly just getting respect hits, from both sexes, great for making friends etc but nothing really sexual going on at all …. even in a burlesque club… which i just walked us all straight in without paying… it was meant to be a tenner each.. i am feeling confused about pheromones and continually speculating..

Wow I always love reading your journal and seeing what happens with your mad scientist mixes. So after reading your journal I ordered some P96 and I haven’t had much luck solo but in mixes I get hits from men and women. I am still in the beginning testing stages but wanted to thank you as this seems like a great putative.

I should just stick with my past successful mixes but I keep wanting to experiment..
2-3 ig
2 x is/p130 top up
I maybe had a few hits but in particular a really bad one. I’ve never really got on that well with ig although it has shown some promise.. My mate was draggin me from pillar to post, bit annoying, managed to break off to a festival style tent with this other dude I just met. I don’t understand why he liked me so much. He was hetero, maybe liked the shine.. Went for a groove in the tent and think I was getting a few stares, wasn’t wearing any lenses,missing the hits like usual. Still grooving about and the dude was like man your in there with that girl. I was like what you going on about. But he was right she really wanted to dance with me. Short blond girl probably a good few years older than me. She started to throw her legs around and kicked my pint out my hand. She was very apologetic and insisted on buying me a pint. We got to the bar and it just shut, then the tent closed and had to leave. My mate turned up and it just fizzled out and he dragged me off.
Cant remember where we went next but we ended up going back to ours with a couple of mates and a couple of random 40 yo women.. In hindsight I dislike these women a lot and should have told em to get the f out my flat.. I took a massive personal attack on my image and persona. Prob went on for about an hr or two. Basically what it boils down to is mustard yellow socks are really uncool and so are polo shirts, especially when you put your collar up.. I played it calm and assured her I didn’t really care for her opinion and accepted I wasn’t very cool asked what her advice would be, being genuinely very interested. Basically I need to get some tee shirts and other designer clothes..she’s especially the kind of woman I try to avoid. Heavilly opinionated and vain. The the other one I won round after awhile, but found out she was seeing two blokes at the same time and then cougered my mate. He was wearing mx474 3 sprays. Woke up feeling quite disheartened, realise maybe i need to go clothes shopping but those women were bitches..

I have also noticed very little solo. I treat it like a buffer.

The p96 effect…
I find p96 gives comfort in the form of the feeling of bonding. This new mate of mine I’ve been hanging around with a bit, guitar solo guy from mx297 house party crash post, said after our first encounter “it feels like I’ve known you all my life”.. That was about10-20 mcg.. When storming around town the other day with 2 a314, 2 shine and 60mcg p96 on a guy came chasing after me. He said he could have sworn I was an old friend of his, my look and demeanour, but when up close obviously not.

Wore that same mix out Thursday night had a great time, starting to just bump into people I’ve met when out. Getting a good local vibe going on.. I attest again a314 is probably not best for trying to pick up on the bar/club scene.. It’s more a one on one thing, day time wear or for fall out.

Sat night went out with ol’ classic..
2x ammo
1x mx297

Good attention and opener from a morroccon lady minding a child in a pub. Good flowing conversation and smiley interest.. Noticed bar man is a bit standoffish, pretty much ignoring me.. Older guy at bar was cool, so was my mate who turned up late. Later in a club got chucked out in world record time, probably took longer to get in than the amount of time in there… Tall over weight 23ish yr old screwed up her face and shook her head at me. I just laughed, wasn’t even contemplating her. Went for a smoke, rolled up, got chatting to two nice Spanish girls and one Spanish guy who was vacating the scene offering us champagne, exaggerating his generosities. The pretty one was getting smiley with me and doing most the talking then yoink I get grabbed by a bouncer. What can I say it was an accident.. there was a blim of weed in my pouch that made it into my ciggie and stank the place out… Bouncer was being unnecessarily aggressive, like usual, trying to belittle me etc I remained calm…

This mix isn’t buffered great for any meat head type but has quick attraction effects on a wide age group of girls.

Went to some house night sun night, was a bit shit not really my crowd.. Had applied 1.5 a314 and 2-3 mx48… Prior in the day… Great preening effect on waitress when mx was in effect. In the club a314 brings a lot of very attractive women within your proximity who have no intention of opening you. Mx would have worn off by then. I’ve noticed this before where suddenly I don’t have to look very far to see a hot girl.. But they’ve always got their back turned or only sneaking glances. I’ve had it before when wearing several drops girls are packed around me dancing sometimes as close a six inches infront of me. I don’t get the protocol.. Is this an invite I question myself… Should I just start grinding her even though I haven,t seen her face… Ammo is much better for bars and clubs I reckon. I think ammo alone is better than both also… A314 is best when you already know the people you are going out with and don’t necessarily want a lot of attention.

Recently learnt that there’s 15mcg of erone in each drop of a314.i realize when I have used a314 with ammo the mix has seemed a bit to much and my best attempts at sexualizing a314 have been when using tuth. Seeing as I get good effects of a drop of a314 it seems silly to add more erone to it by using ammo. I might do some a314 +tuth mixes or just straight ammo.

3x ammo
15mcg tac
2 x shine

The enone in this mix is buffered really well. Got an insane amount of high fives from guys I didn’t know and one of bouncers really liked me. I’m often on the receiving end of enone aggression and there wasn’t a tiny bit in sight last night. I had to tell my mate to stop cock blocking me lol.. On a few occasions he interrupted me talking to women trying to get me to move on. But not as annoying as this cock blocking pua guy. I was talking to a lady and she was generally very interested in what I was saying, similar jobs and interests etc. But this dude comes in like blah blah blah and just wouldn’t shut up, singles her out and just wont stop talking to her. I cant be arsed to compete with this and I think I would look stupid doing so. I guess its a preditors game but he didn’t win her over he just ruined our conversation… Maybe this is a cockblocking mix… Don’t get me wrong I was approaching girls getting good eye contact on the dance floor etc but everyone I was interested in had a drake lurking by… Been working too much this week to do much but next weekend ill be all over the place.

Wow seems like a good mix. That is interesting you are getting high fives but yet at the same time you are competition to these guys at the same time. I usually find either other guys love the mix or they feel threatened and hate me. So this is very interesting.

I think the enone hypes up other guys in your presence and the shine makes them feel good so naturally they up their game with their new found confidence. I guess it would be different with a314 tho. I think if I was wearing 4 sprays ammo the guy would step back and be more in awe of my enone sig. Its hard to say tho as different people have different characters and most my tests are on strangers.

Ideally I want a mix that women love and are sexually stimulated by but men respect..

Gr8 work, would love to hear more, on above quoted lines by experts.
IMO when you try to be in above situation with women, men are bound to get offended, its natural hormonal thing, specially in a social setting and when you are testing on strangers.
wishing u best of luck, if you come across any such mix, let us know. :slight_smile: thanks in advance

I tend to stick with a314 when male friends are going to be around, which will generally be when I’m meeting girls from friends of friends etc so the barrier a314 creates is already broken and large enone sigs are unnecessary/innappropriate..
1.5 drops a314
2 spray mx48…

Roast at pub with extended friends of friends circle. Space for me happened to be next to someone’s new roomie 27yo blonde 7/10.not quite my type but decent enough. The respect was slight but there.. Blonde was preening while I looked away when talking. She didn’t manage to hide it, caught it in my peritherals.. Conversation was good and flowing, no awkward pauses, no rambling.. No harsh words no shit tests. Generally all good, apart from the food. No sledge hammer effect on blonde but mild attraction hugs on departure etc..

I watched a documentary about herbalism in the amazon and in it a shaman mentioned that if you made a tea from the creeper plant women will cling to you like the vine does to a tree. He called it the creeper plant of love or something like that. I can only guess it to be the common vine but it had whispy green flowers/leaves unlike I have never seen before. I cannot find a reference to it anywhere else.. But I did come across this attract rx pill that ramps up you own personal pheromones supposedly. Its been briefly mentioned here on pherotalk with split opinion over wether it works. I am interested in it at the moment but concerned to it increasing testosterone levels and accelerating mpb due to it containing tribulus terrestris.. I like the idea of ramping up your own sig, better that use both.. Anyway still researching not going to splash out it seems expensive, but I like the concept.

I believe 20 mcg p130 was still active 9 hours after application… I consistently recieve the male helper vibe solo when wearing it and once when wearing it with ig and shine I had a guy point out my hits for me… Maybe p130 is a cock blocker stopper… Maybe it has the guys doing the opposite of competing with you and signs them up to your cause. Havn’t paired it with a high enone sig yet so that’s the next test.

Interesting about the attract RX as I looked into also. So the main ingredients in it are ammino acids, tribulis, gaba, colostrum and a few others. So I looked around andi guess the idea is to boost natural hormone production the colostrum boosts immune system gaba is a type of ammino acid that helps with mood and works on neurotransmitters and the other amino acids help with boosting sleep and natural growth hormone production. You could buy all the ingredients for around a third of what it would cost for attract RX. If anything you will be taking better care of your yourself with some supplements

2-3 a314
2 x shine
40 mcg p96
20 mcg p130
6 mcg androstenone soaked in shirt collar( bad diffusion)
The above mix would be great for some type of fall out effect, great for girls you already know. Also you will have no problems with guys.. This weekend I called up the Slovakian, featured in many posts and my first pherobomb target since my ex, hung out with my usual friend group and met some of her friends. Anyway I have been writing off her flirts for a while as I thought she had a bf, but I heard from the guy this Fri that they are not, and she is going a bit crazy with life pressures. Also she never did escalate anything with my mate and she is technically single,although a complete nut job still. Her and the guy who I know have been fighting and I didn’t mention it before but last time I saw them both together she said in front of everybody “when I first saw von phero it was love at first sight.” She has said a bunch of stuff to me but each time I wear a314 she crawls all over me.. She is not so keen on ammo any more unless there’s a loada shine and p96 in there. Anyway Fri night I was wearing 3 x ammo 1 x shine 20 mcg p96 2 x mx 473.. This did a good job of attracting her flat mate and other nostril flaring friend who spoke what was on her mind without realizing, she shocked herself.. I knew it was the nol in ammo and the mx473. Anyway this mix got me stared down by a German tourist with her family like a bit of meat… Its a good fun mix… Managed to kinda fall out with Bulgarian girl with this mix but made up next day by text and was to meet them again the next evening wearing the a314 mix.
Anyway Slovak girl was getting pretty flirty by phone prior to our meet and on arrival she was looking stunning and being wild. Instantly she was grabbing at my head hugging me burying herself in my neck. She was smiling like a Cheshire cat literally crawling all over me. We have a few photos of us together but she is completely buried in my neck in each one grinning.. We went to my mates bar for a couple and I was thinking wahey she’s up for some fun. At which point she was on the phone speaking Slovak getting hysterical. She then went awol leaving me with the Bulgarian. I spent the rest of the night making ammends with Bulgarian girl, she called me cute, but she Is so platonic. She has been harassing me by text since… I texted Slovak the next morning to see wether she was ok… She explained she still didn’t know wether she was going to lose her job and had fought with that guy. She had a little break down. She apologized and has invited me for “tea”. Not sure what to think of it but I’m going to keep wearing this mix around her and watch to see wether she will explode.. We’ve been resisting each other since we’ve met each other but her body language and words are suggestin I’m under her skin… she’s been very physically and verbally expressive of how she feels about me in our last encounters . I know she Is/ has been involved with others i know but i think its twice atleast people have ripped her off me like what she was doing is inappropriate based on how other guys may feel about her.. Other guys aggress upon her but in my absense of aggression on her she is coming to me… anyway i haven’t got my heart set on this girl I’m just playing this one out to see what happens. Although i definitely would…

Seeing as you cant see our faces.. Notice face glued in application points… They forced me to down that wine too.!