Chin up von

Indeed. A royal twat. :slight_smile:

Ok I take I back 😉 tbh I don’t even use ammo anymore, had some luck with it but more luck without enone based mixes.. Look forward to the reports!

some people have said great things about ammo. i did want to mention that i’m asian… so i should have low none to begin with right? if that was the case then i think heavy none based products should work well for me. according to what i’m reading, ammo has 2.5mcg of none per spray. since i’m a complete noob, i really don’t know if that’s a lot or not… however it sounds like it isn’t too high?

I’ve experimented with very high amounts of enone from a young age.. I have received its best attributes as well as its worse.. Enone has the a ability to go wrong, catastrophicly, as well cause extraordinary great responses. Its hit or miss. I moved away from it as i saw its negatives rearing its head too often and moved to attraction mixes which would not cause aggression. I have found enone works best with audacious moves, but a lot of people react badly to its aggression. If your intention is to meet some one new you may have better luck without it. At least I find it to be the case.. Even products like a314, which is gold, I would not use for pick up. I find its better with people you already know. Sayin all that I’m tempted to use some enone soon with my new date as I know how much fun it can be…

To put things into perspective. If you were to work out for half an hour you may produce about 0.5 mcg enone, correct me if I’m wrong, so one spray would be 5 times what people would usually tolerate. A lot of your experimenting will be finding out what works great for others may not for you.

Thank you mx48…!

Friday I went out wth an only just recovered member not planning to try and pick up any girls so I tested above mix at 2.5-3 sprays wearing my lucky hat.. I was actively avoiding pretty girls but being my usual social self… The mix was giving the happy nice cool dude effect.. Not energetic like mx297 it was more laid back. Anyway after a bunch of effortless meet and greets I clock a pretty girl beaming at me on the dance floor… That’s when I realized it was my crazy Austrian bird of the night featured in a few of my earlier night out posts. She was ecstatic to see me and very beautiful.. I knew I would bump into her eventually.. Well anyway my mates were making a move on to a party and the Austrian told me her friends were about to leave her there so we were like that’s us for the night then.. Things escalated pretty quick on the dance floor. I was undoubtedly taking her home but told her she wasn’t getting any 😉 she did tell me i smelt nice, kinda smells like lynx Africa lol, and she bit me on the application points.. And yes I did get slapped and my drink thrown over me but I wouldn’t expect any less from her… She gets very wild and is a lot of fun!
At one point I was like fk this and walked off but she came running back after me. I rode her back to mine on the back of her push bike.. And she was all over me like a rash when we got back. She admitted she had been stalking me since new years and was giving me compliments like crazy.. Was a very enjoyable experience to finally have this phantom figure in my bed showering me with affection.. We only got 2 hours sleep. I eventually give in to fking but due to me being very drunk etc I was struggling to keep it up.. I assure we’ll do it again some time, but properly..
We spend most of the next day hair of the dogging it. Didn’t wash and didn’t reapply any pheromones and she was still all over me.. In fact i got a really good hit from a barmaid 24hrs after applying the mx and not washing with whatever natural copulins i had on me. She was insisting she knew me from somewhere, i asked her her name where’s she from her friends etc… I couldn’t find any connection.. So i gave her the i see you symbol and left with my pints.

This time I have the Austrians name and number so the next time we see each other it will be premeditated for the first time..

Funny drunken quotes from her were;
“I’m going to steal you from that girl” “I’m going to wrap you around my little finger” “I’m very manipulative” " you could be a movie star" “your face is so symmetrical”
Maybe I should let her contact me first but quite want it tonight before I leave town for the week.. We’ll see maybe ill text her later.

Lol she’s texted me already. Heading to hers in a bit.. Gonna hit her with the ol’ classic
A314 2 drops
2 x shine
20-30mcg p96
10 mcg tac to the pubes

Well above mix did as expected.. Added a 5mcg smear of p130 to the wrists. This girl is a stunner with a super tight body showing it off in well fitted fancy dresses. Very healthy doesn’t do drugs so has a great sense of smell and huffs up the pheros exactly where applied. She’ll sniff out the a314 behind my ears.. At one point she didn’t hear what I said and replied “you smell good too.”

P96 was hitting well on the beautifying effects.. Compliments were thick and fast even though she clearly is a right catch herself. Went out for food and drinks and spent the night at hers.. She was a bit nervous and jittery at times but when she is given a few compliments and made to feel accepted she really loosens up beaming manically at me. Outbreaks of hysterical laughter at mediocre jokes etc.. She was in a joyous mood throughout, guess the shine helps here too.. There was also no physical barrier between us, any embrace was natural.. I believe the p130 helps with this, as well as the tac but that doesn’t get exposure until clothes come off.. We ended up f**king in a pub basement cinema, surprised we got away with it.

Had an absolute floorless weekend assisted by pheros, but was doing pretty well without them too.. Felt like an absolute prince at times, in fact that’s what she called me. Was happy to receive an incredible long back rub from her. She made me pay for dinner though but to be fair it was a good hours worth so she earned it. I just need to let my body recover from all this fun I’m having.. Sigh

I know I said a few Posts back that I take back trying to transition into being a true casanova.. Well I think I take that back.. Seeing as I’m not officially anyone’s I think I’ll fool around a bit more.. Bdsm bird is buying up my time but i really like Austrian bird. Austrian bird says she doesn’t do bfs. I told her about bdsm bird and seems to want to steel me. I’m not sure what to do really… Might just go shopping this weekend and maybe give the Austrian a call… Its great to think about a year ago I was horribly heart broken with no game atall and now I have options and am losing count of the hits… I have to point out I have been gettin subtle hits anyway without pheromones on and I think this is to do with confidence.. Exuding confidence is attractive in itself.. Pheromones can train you to be that way.. I’ve done it before, lost it. Then did it again..

2.5 sprays mx297
3 sprays aqua di gio (hedione?)

new threads, lucky hat and literally peeling the women off me last night. I’m not even exaggerating. Again not looking for birds but them finding me.. This reverse psychology seems to be working for me. Acting like you’ve already got it with a casual browse on. Could have pulled two birds but only gave one the pleasure. Was spanking arses again last night which I always seem to get away with, people always advise me against it but its how It is done and they mostly seem to appreciate it. I felt slightly hunted by two separate women last night. Ended up trying to shrug the one I pulled off.. Probably could have taken her home, couldn’t be arsed as was having a good night with friends and feeling pretty tired this weekend from work.

Also I think I have been getting natural hits from a stick of celery a day. They are akin to subtle androstenone hits.. It seems that you wont get a od effect with your natural pheromones. Which is nice because I don’t like androstenone ods.

Oh and apparently I have a lady wink. My friend did an impression of me its kinda like a chest puff smiley wink I do when looking for trouble. She said " I’m just telling my mates I found a really hot guy on the dance floor" .. I then sly off… Just sitting in bed refraining from contacting the austrian at the mo.. I realized our level of attraction for each other is very high when comparing it to my interactions with other women.. Might just leave it till next weekend and build the suspense..

I think I gotta get better with my covers and get a better story ready. Austrians sense of smell is very sharp and she is lapping them up to great effect. Couldn’t resist calling her on Sunday night and arranging to meet her.
3 drops a314
20-30 mcg p96
6mcg p130
1.3 sprays shine
5mcg tac to the pubes

The a314 + p96 combo is absolute killer for fall out. It works literally right away and the longer you can have them close in your presence the more of an effect you will have.. I’m finding one or two long exposures and these women cannot get enough. She said late at night, we only got 2 hours sleep, curled into my chest. " I feel I incredibly emotionally connected to you right now." We have had two dates .. This mix is working scarily well and I am Thinking of dropping it when I see bdsm bird as I want to keep things casual with her. I might switch to some ammo tac mixes again with her to keep things raw and instinctual.

Anyway Austrian bird is a real keeper. She is showing some signs of jealousy and expressing some desire for me to see only her. But its way too early to be thinking about that again. The 3 drops of a314 really take it to another level. I must have had a serious musk on. She commented on my smell at least twice.. I think I need to get some new covers or hone it down to 1 drop, 10mcg p96 and 1 spray shine.. When we finally got down to it she was really wet and she didn’t need much to be satisfied.. I was just starting to get into it and she needed me to stop as she had had enough and it was late. Good job I didnt finish as I wasn’t wearing protection. I Think I’m using too much pheromones on her, she is very susceptible and I need her to have more stamina in the sack.. Although she really does try to seduce me and dominate me some times. Complete opposite to bdsm bird where its my job to be aggressive. Anyway I should be seeing her again on Saturday and I’m really looking forward to spending some time with her when I’m well rested before. She’s going to be getting a314 again as her body deserves it.

On another note I have sent a friend off with mx 49… To test so wondering what he is going to report back to me.

Oh a314 you make me sooo smug…!

A314 4 drops 1 drop above each arm pit near similar smelling deodorant, 1 drop in side burns, 1 drop in moustache…
1 spray is/p130 wrists
10 mcg p96 throat

She was straight to my pits telling me I smell of incense, I said it was musk. 10mcg of p96 is enough to reap its beautifying effects. Went to hers last night and we went out late to a few bars. 3 blonde bar maids were putty in my hands, it was so hilarious and obvious how taken these girls were with the a314… Outstanding service. My girl was noticing my royal treatment and just was getting ignored at the bar when it was her round. Everytime I had to go up to get the beers instead of her as they would only seem to notice me. In the end I was ordering the pints while she sat down and swooped in with the card at the end to pay.. She described the bar maids as “wax in my hands” and she said she was too.. She noticed that everyone kept staring at us.. We reasoned it because we had just had sex and people like like the smell. She said its because women are attracted to men who have just had sex and she must be attracted to me because I am on a winning streak atm, touch wood.. Maybe I should tell her about the pheros… Great interesting sex later on including ice cream. She is almost too wet to have sex with. Again makes me stop a couple of times for rests.. No tac in this time which I feel isn’t needed at all with her. Just a little erone, the rest is just thrills..

2 drops a314
10 mcg p130
1 spray shine
12.5mcg p83

Saw her again and didn’t get any comments on scent this time. Was getting goodish service out and about, down to a less noticeable level but still there. But I don’t like the addition of p83 and have had bad reactions with it in the past. Just finishing my first Togo and I wont be getting it again.. Very late at night on the way back from a club she turned on me. We had a fight and almost said our goodbyes to each other. I have no clue what it was about or what was really said and nor does she. But I had to go back to hers to get my keys and ended up sleeping the night. Up until that point we had had a brilliant weekend.. Got up next day got dressed to leave but ended up making up. I then had a shower and spent the day phero free with her. Still had her charmed without pheros and again far too wet. Thought I’d let us see how we’d do without pheros and we still did fine.still a bit worried about her nut job qualities in the early hours she actually had me quite upset with the way she spoke to me last night. I hope it was something to do with the p83 but she is a bit of a princess with a crazy streak.. Things are exciting but I’m a bit worried about her volatility. Anyway wont see her for a while so it can all brew.. I might calm it down with the a314 a bit as that stuff is some powerful shit and I’m getting far too smug for my own good. Hit of the night by far and I swear this guy was out of range as I was walking down the street with her on my arm and this guy clocks us at a good 15feet walks straight up to us and says to me " man you are a one lucky man as this woman is looking fine tonight".. I was like thank you very much. Wont see her for a while which is fine as I’m not sure what I want from her.. Lesson of the weekend is p83 is getting chucked. A314 p96 shine will hook any woman. It is simply cheating.. Wouldn’t go fishing with it tho.I am exhausted..

Nice that your trying celery man. Im not getting hits anymore from it, although im eating the whole bundle. Will probably take a week off from it.

seems you dont have any trouble meeting women von, where do you meet them?Social circle? Im done with PUA and I know PUA aint your thing.

Maybe you got a celery enone od lol! I’ve been supplementing ginseng, saw palmetto and schissandra which I feel healthier for and I think people pick up on a healthier aura. My piss stinks of androstenone! Have you tried dropping androstenone yet? as that was when things changed for me, being a high enone producer anyway myself.

I meet girls mainly at party’s, festivals, clubs, pubs and rarely at other situations.I don’t do pua like I’ve said before women approach me. Just dress good and hold composure, Invite them in with a smile, a wink or just your eyes.. If your feeling lucky time a perfect ass slap. I’ve been using the back of my hand recently.

Try doing a mix with no enone in it or use mx297.. go out find some music you like get drunk, dance and have a good time.. The ladies will find you. I find that wearing p130 is great as other guys will be constantly hooking you up with reps and invites etc.. Women recognize your recognition and are attracted to that too.. More often than not they will introduce you to their female friends and blow your horns for you.

Im going to do the mix you you recommended to me in the past. 2 sprays Tac to my wrist+2 sprays Instant Shine to my hair. I looked at getting P130 but its out :frowning: Ive been hitting up strait bars with my buddy lately. What do you think?

I still have MX297. I guess its worth another try. I have not had any results from it, although i wasnt partying or being excessively social haha sounds like it can work if am having a good time along with getting a good buzz from the brewskies.

edit: Just saw P130 is not out, will buy when I get the chance lol. but is tac+Instant shine okay for now?

Just use mx297 mate, solo.. I cant see how it cant work for you but I guess it may be the case. Maybe some added cologne. TAC shine is also a good mix. I don’t bother spraying to my hair, although will try it some time but don’t want to contribute to my ever receeding hair line… Remember my tac shine p130 mcgs are all very low… Give mx297 another try at 2-3 sprays between neck and wrists, now crack a beer!

ok will do, Mx297 it is. Thanks Von.

2 x mx297
10 mcg p130
2 sprays aqua di gio

Seems like a really good mix. Went out for casual pints at a bar Friday with a few friends. Got a slight head turn from a pretty girl who was with someone.. I sat down between Latvian girl and her bf.. Both were fighting for my attention.. Her bf was full of praise wanted to help me with work etc. (male helper vibe mhv).. When talking to Latvian Girl alone she accidently put her hand on my crutch and in her own roundabout way told me that she wanted to marry me.. I don’t know what to Think about her anymore but it is getting quite awkward with her acting in this way with me in front of her bf.. I knew she always loved mx297 but with the addition of p130 she said there was something new about me.. I said must be my cologne. Got a free shot at the bar by saying is one of those for me? Pointing at someone’s round at the bar. Mac was a ledge watched him fall out the pub…

Next day
10mcg tac
2 x shine
Bdsm bird came down to see me… Felt the p130 missing… Wanted to stop using a314 with her and make sure our relationship was of casual sex… Things felt a lot less romantic without the p96. Needless to say we found a great time drank too much, managed to get chucked out a pub and had plenty of bad thang.. I also spent a day or two with her without pheromones on and I felt a lot of the attraction was lost. Unlike what happened with Austrian bird where we both were still attracted. Still success though we’re in Agreement that we are fwb.. So it’ll be safe to use a314 around her in the future.

May need to stick an order in soon, almost out of TAC! May reorder at 7.5mcg per spray as I reckon that is my sweet spot. Mx297 is all gone too. Gonna need a bit more of that. Also my mate said that the neroli scent really reminded him of Armani code and he said that ladies seem to love that and he knew nothing of pheros before I brought it up. So I ordered a sample of that as the ingredients sound like a perfect cover scent. Feeling a bit stressed with work at the mo because hammering it so hard at the weekends so am using p130 for self effects.

Mx47… 2-3 sprays
If I remember correctly this is from the ladies range? Guys in shop seem flustered. They both were slightly pink reddish when serving me. Alas very helpful, maybe a little coy… I don’t think I’m going to wear the mx47… Range as I don’t think that is what I’m looking for… The mx48… - 49… Range though seems pretty good.