I was recently doing some research on the age old debate about whether copulins are actually pheromones or not and i came across this. Since this is a one-off and its the first time iv heard of it, im gonna disregard it as some crazy lady that fell off the rocker. Its still an interesting read though. It sounds like somethin outta the twilight zone.
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I think this will better serve the community if we place it down in the theory section of the forum. Browsing through the article she does seem a bit off-kilter on some of her points. She keeps saying it’s scientific but does not cite sources or anything else. Sounds like an opinion
Once in a while in life you run across some nutballs. This lady is one of them. They have a club on Yahoo as well claiming mind control with copulins.
Think about it, all women naturally make them and have been having sex forever with men. You may meet a few pussy whipped men here and there but most sexually active men do pretty much what they will with or without the presence of copulins.
All they do is increase make testosterone levels by 150%, increase penile blood flow and arouse. Its also reported that males find females with a higher ratio of copulins prettier then lower ratio. Probably because it signals fertility.
Copulins are not evil and they will not effect your golf game. They do the same thing anone does for men.
Terrifying in the same way that the delusions and fantasies of a psychopath are always terrifying. The “scientific explanation” for this “copulin mind control” is complete BS, it’s just the result of pyschological manipulation over long periods that gives these women the control.
I agree with everyone; this doesn’t seem to be reliable at all. Just some good old-fashioned BS. What I find interesting is that as easy as it is for people to doubt her because “it doesn’t appear scientific” it is just as easy to accept something as true “because it really makes sense and they site studies, talk science, etc”…
I don’t disbelieve her because “it doesn’t appear scientific”, I disbelieve it because the observed effects can just as easily be explained by things that I already know to be true, and Occam’s Razor applies: the simplest explanation is probably the true one.
It’s interesting to be able to peer into the workings of another persons mind, especially if there values, opinions are different from ours. I love reading stuff like that, but only if the person(s) go into reasoning and rationalizations of why their thinking is correct opposed to scientific facts. I get it, she’s whacked, but the real beauty for me is to be able to understand a persons thinking process so if I encounter that type a person I already have an inside track to similar thought processes.
Knowledge is power especially when you are trained in NLP
Actually, she took down her scientific citations sometime after June 06, 2004. I looked into this bizarre notion sometime ago, and found claims to citations. Luckily nothing is ever erased from the internet, and I was interested, I found those citations she had up on her site for some time in an old archive… History of Copulin Research
I did the research into her references almost half a year ago, and can collaborate or discredit her claims in one or two phone calls, but I stopped once I realized, “What if these researchers I talk to actually did the studies? One phone call.”, and I just bookmarked all 20 pages of different pages of research into it’s validity, hoping I could just make the call, eventually… it’s easy to dismiss one as a ‘nut job’, it’s much harder to be objective and as you research it more and more, slowly find it has more merit than one would typically believe, in it’s scientific basis.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m still skeptical, but I could always just contact the parties involved (I already have their numbers) and find I just stepped in it, leaving me dumbfounded.
Anyone want to do it for me?
I have the questions for them in my head already, anyone want to be that voice?
It is easy to dismiss as quack science because science does not back her! Even her own citations seem to dispel her theory and its most likely why she took them down:
What I am saying Domnk is that it is just as easy to accept anything as “science” when most evidence pointedly rejects those claims. The burden of proof lies with the science to prove itself and not the other way around. You cannot say the sky is made of blue cheese without factual proof to back it up.
This also leads me to question why someone would take down their scientific cites? If she is attempting to say her theory is backed by science than surely she would want those cited sources as evidence to back up her claims. In actuality, to delve a bit deeper, none of those are anything but a time line of alleged events and not cites at all. I’d like to see what happens if anyone were to turn in a thesis based on those types of cites. I could easily predict ridicule and failure.
The burden of proof lies with anyone who affirms her theory, not me. So by your very standards it is harder to be objective and not believe because you want to believe. Due the research and find out and then post your research, but until such time it is a baseless position without merit.
Yes, that is true, but the studies conducted earlier on were either ambiguous in it’s definition, or did in-fact state they were pheromones, so you can understand the confusion. (it’s quite difficult to find the studies which note the difference between copulins and pheromones. I know they’re out there somewhere, if anyone knows were to find them please let me know)
States copulins as pheromones -
Michael RP, Bonsall RW, Kutner M. Volatile fatty acids, “copulins”, in human vaginal secretions. Psychoneuroendocrinology. 1975;1(2):153–163.
Michael, R.P., Bonsall, R.W. and Warner, P., 1974. Human vaginal secretions: volatile fatty acid content. Science 186, pp. 1217–1219.
Ambiguous classification -
Michael RP, Keverne EB, Bonsal RW (1971) Pheromones: Isolation of male sex attractants from a female primate. Science, 172:964-96631.
Curtis RF, Ballantine JA, Keverne EB, Bonsall RW, Michael RP (1971) Identification of primate sexual pheromones and the properties of synthetic attractants. Nature, 232:396-398.
Indicated that the “C2-C5 aliphatic acids present in the vaginal secretions of estrogen-primed female rhesus monkeys were reported to act as releaser-type pheromones”. These compounds were tagged with the label of “Copulins”.
Hmmm, your right, it’s completely contradictory to typical pheromone-esque interactions (which she does not discuss), and useless to her intravenous administration theory; however, it could easily be a typo. Because, in 1997 a study did in fact pronounce that there “is some evidence that men show an olfactory sexual response to copulins”
Grammer K, Jutte A, 1997. The war of odours: importance of pheromones for human reproduction. Gynaekol-Geburtshilflihe Rundsch 37: 150-153.
Supporting the unintended error theory, but your right, who really knows (not being sarcastic, by the way). She either meant to show that copulins have psychological effects, in general, on the male sex, before going into the intravenous/subcutaneous administration citations, but made a mistake; or not, and she didn’t know what she was talking about.
“The hypothalamus regulates motivated behavior”,
“the CNS has engineered two regulatory processes fast-acting, fast-duration chemical events via neurotransmitters, and slow-acting, long-duration effects via hormones. The hypothalamus controls both processes”
Clinical Neuroscience By Kelly Lambert Craig H. Kinsley
“Thus, the hypothalamus appeared to coordinate and sequence motivated responses, as well as their correlated autonomic responses. Their circuitry is now know to descend from the hypothalamus to the midbrain and to the integrative centers in the brain stem and spinal cord.”
Fundamental neuroscience, By Larry R. Squire
“The hypothalamus is also connected with higher parts of the central nevous system, however, including the cerebral cortex and the amygdala.”
“…the hypothalamus is a superior center for the coordination of emotional reactions.”
"It thus appears that the activity of the hypothalamus is significant not only for emotional reactions but also for the emotions themselves.
Conceivably, this is mediated by feedback connections from the hypothalamus to the limbic structures and the cerebral cortex-structures that are necessary for the experience of emotions (as distinct from emotional reactions)"
The central nervous system: structure and function, By Per Brodal
“The hypothalamus links the endocrine and nervous systems. It has connections with the cerebral cortex, thalamus, retina, posterior part of the pituitary gland and the sympathetic nervous system.”
Science for the health team, By Barry G. Hinwood
“Actions require motivation. Even covert attention shifts depend on emotional interests of the organism; subcortical structures such as the amygdala, hippocampus and the hypothalamus influence voluntary attention mechanisms in the anterior cingulate. Actions imagined but not performed are both activated and inhibited in the frontal lobes and motor cortex; inhibition, controlled in large part by the hypothalamus, allows action images to be consciously experienced (Jeannerod 1998) along with the emotional values associated with the actions.”
Proceedings of the Twenty-second Annual Conference of the Cognitive Science Society, By Lila R. Gleitman, Aravind K. Joshi
True, it was not formatted in a professional way, but that does not invalidate the theory, now does it?
Err, no, I’m stating that based on science, it is possible, I don’t believe it is, or isn’t truth. I operate in terms of theory, not truth, because prejudice belief is nonsense to me, everything is in a state of flux (to coin a phrase) until proven otherwise, and even then, it’s still just a theory (pssst, which is still in flux)!
The fact that subjective burden of a possible disconcerting finding got in the way of the research, does not mean I “want to believe” it, just that I see all it’s possible outcomes.
I’ll go ahead and make the calls then, have put it off for awhile, and I saved everything, because I always intended to complete it.
Hello, I am here to post a comment to agree that YES Copulins are psychoactive, and YES they are present in vaginal secretions ? especially a woman who is orgasmic and releasing her copulins into the air by squirting it. I have a SERIOUS REQUEST. I am looking to CLEANSE, DETOX, RELEASE Copulins OUT OF MY BODY from BREATHING IT DURING SEXUAL INTERCOURSE (no oral). Is there any type of COPULIN CURE / REMEDY to get the Copulins OUT of my system?. Because the Copulins are psychoactive, and link to the MAN?S NERVOUS SYSTEM (brain, cerebral spinal fluid (CSF), polypeptides), you WILL FEEL some things if you have been having sex (protected or unprotected) with the same female consistently, even if you are apart ? like ?her orgasm? with someone else, it will trigger your nervous system like a radio saying “something is not right”. This is how people know when you are cheating, they can literally feel it after being exposed to sexual intercourse with the same person over and over, its natures way of bonding man and woman in a relationship which is good, not so good for people on the fence or uncommitted engaging in sex.This is not some sort of ?emotional? feeling, but rather a PHYSICAL REACTION (at this point) to any nervous-system related activity in your body- whether during sex with her, or after, even if she is nowhere near you, there is a physical sensation that you may feel. I have tested this with much speculation only to find out that this is a true response to the female’s behaviors in another location, almost like a ?sixth sense? - and yes, I caught her in the act!, which is a result of the CHEMICAL REACTION of HER COPULINS from sex (ESPECIALLY Orgasms), and its reaction within my male body [all jokes aside, ladies should keep this in mind - this is how men KNOW when you are cheating, I can even “hear” them speaking and almost feel the thrusts from the dude who was penetrating her - so I popped up and found her cheating in my house]. I have been researching this topic for months after excessive exposure to vaginal spray/mist from one female, and want to find out a natural way to rid myself of all the Copulins from her - to “disconnect” my sense of connection to her nervous system and every little emotion that she has. Are there any natural cures?? There is a brain/blood barrier that they seem to penetrate and I have sourced aromathery oils to experiment upon cleansing the lymph, the hypothalamus and other possible areas of concern. I don’t want to publish my ingredients because I have not 100% resolved these ?reactions? each day that I feel (especially on the left side), but I am taking oils that cleanse the nerves, CSF, and detox the lymph, the quotes about them taking over the polypeptides ? glad to read a science guy who chimed in that there WAS a discrepancy, but we still cannot deny that these chemicals affect you even when you are not around her, even after a month or so. It has reduced, I am still looking for solutions to this issue, which is not emotional necessarily as much as its a chemical reaction within my body that I am looking to break. I am looking at ginger, cloves, anise, apple cider vinegar, white vinegar, cinnamon, peppermint, cedar wood oil, lemon oil, and others in various oil delivery methods to get through the blood/brain barrier (oral, sniffing, ginger/lemon in my water etc). My symptoms have cut in almost half (about 45 days later), but I’m still very concerned about the duration of this ?chemical bond? which creates physical sensations in my body. Thank you.
Oh man, this is a blast from the past. This discussion was from like seven years ago now and was just a teenager during the research project. I’m surprised to see this thread again, as I haven’t done much research in pheromone studies since I was writing a paper to correct my psychology teacher in the existence of documented human pheromones in college, but I digress.
To answer your question, I never did end up making those calls. Given the subject matter it was a rather tumultuous possible outcome, intellectually speaking, and was fine leaving it as an nonvalidated but potential theory… that plus teenage social anxiety
Okay then, sorry to revive the dead thread again, but it was sort of bugging me that I only had my memory to go off when last posting. I looked around and found the old research and will post what I have done. Dead links have been revived when possible, and if not another current source was found. Contact information has been updated for 2017. For further discussion on this topic for background in pherotalk please see the thread:The effect of copulins (woah)
First off, lets review:
The claims of copulin research from ‘Sandra Morrishaun, PhD, (Professor of Hormonology and Human Behavior, University of Chicago)’ as claimed on her website now closed, but the link revived with the Internet Archive. " About Me "
The claimed research that was done, with no direct references.
Jun 6, 2014
"Chronology of Copulin Research and Events
1986: Michael Whalen discovers copulins and classifies them as a pheromone.
1991: First synthetic copulin produced by Love Fragrances as a male attractant.
1997: Copulins proven to not affect a male’s perception of a female’s attractiveness.
1999: Groundbreaking research by Dr. Luis Monti-Bloch of the University of Utah demonstrates pseudo-psychological properties of copulins.
2000: Funding for copulin study denied simultaneously at the Universities of Utah, Colorado and Chicago.
2001 Feb: Dr. Clancy D. McKenzie, Professor of Integrative Medicine at Capital University of Integrative Medicine in Washington DC, proves in his own independent study that copulins take over the male hypothalamus.
2001 Mar: Neeraja Sankaran publishes Dr. McKenzie’s findings in the magazine The Scientist.
2001 May: C. Dominique Toran-Allerand, Columbia University’s Center for Reproductive Sciences in New York, develops model for how copulins control the male hypothalamus.
2002 Jan: Milos Novotny, Professor of Chemistry and director of the Institute for Pheromone Research at Indiana University, opens new branch of study in copulins.
2002 April: Dr. Novotny fired from Indiana University for “breach of protocol”, in that his research was considered a liability (two male subjects attempted to sue the university after the study).
2001 July: Copulin studies at Indiana University are removed from curriculum.
Present: At present, no universities have studies in copulins despite the sudden interest in them after Dr. Monti-Bloch’s discoveries. I will leave it to you to decide why this has happened…"http://web.archive.org/web/20040606150136/www.copulins.freeservers.com/whats_new.html
The systematic review of aforementioned claims -
“1999: Groundbreaking research by Dr. Louis Monti-Bloch of the University of Utah demonstrates pseudo-psychological properties of copulins.”
Contact Research…
“Pherin now plans to develop sprays to treat anxiety disorders, manage body weight, decrease depression and sleep disorders, improve cognitive performance, treat prostate cancer and enhance the libido-all through the out-of-order vomeronasal organ. The vice presidentof the company, Louis Monti-Bloch, has conducted a number of wild-card studies that counter the prevailing notion that the VNO doesn’t work. In the late nineties, he claimed to show nerve pathways that were excited by pheromones routed from the VNO. He supposedly found electrical stimulation in human vomeronasal receptors in the presence of certain volatile chemicals. His baffling results were never confirmed or reproduced by other scientists”]Siri Lefren Steiner. “The Natural History of a Lost Sense” B.A. Integrative Biology. University of California at Berkeley, 2001
“Louis Monti-Bloch, of the University of Utah and Pherin, and colleagues reported that when certain vomeropherins are puffed onto the…”]( Client Challenge )Ben-Ari, Elia T. “Pheromones: What’s in a Name” BioScience, vol. 48, no. 7, 1998, pp. 505?511. JSTOR, JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/1313311.
“Physiologist Louis Monti-Bloch, now at Pherin Pharmaceuticals in Mountain View, California, and his colleagues have documented the location of the vomeronasal organ’s outlet in humans: a tiny pit just a couple of centimeters up the inner wall of the nostril.” “Physical Chemistry” (Discover, July 2003) by Karen Wright http://m.discovermagazine.com/2003/jul/featchem
“Louis Monti, MD, PhD
Executive Vice-President and Secretary
Pherin Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
4962 El Camino Real, Suite 223
Los Altos, CA 94022
Tel (650) 961-2080
email lmonti@pherin.com” http://www.pherin.com/contact.html
These sources confirm that Dr. Louis Monti-Bloch is a pheromone researcher, Physiologist, and a member of Pherin Pharmaceuticals, specifically the Executive Vice-President and Secretary.
Contacting source required to confirm.
Questions
“In 1999, did what was your affiliation with the University of Utah?”
“Have you every conducted any research on copulins?”
“If so, what did those studies demonstrate? Was there any psychological properties observed?”
“And is the research published, if so where?”
“2001 Feb: Dr. Clancy D. McKenzie, Professor of Integrative Medicine at Capital University of Integrative Medicine in Washington DC, proves in his own independent study that copulins take over the male hypothalamus.”
Contact Research…
"Professor and Department Chair Emeritus of Integrative Psychiatry at Capital University of Integrative Medicine in Washington, DC, with a teaching focus on developmental aspects of neurobiological disorders, and the integration of psychological and biological factors as they pertain to serious mental and emotional disorders…
Dr. McKenzie graduated from the University of Michigan School of Medicine in 1962. For the next several years, he focused his attention on studies of the human mind and the complex realm of mental illness, including five years of training in adult psychoanalysis and two years in child psychoanalysis at the Menninger School of Psychiatry and the Philadelphia Psychoanalytic Institute. His dedication to study and scholarship in psychiatry and neurology, and special training in trauma desensitization, led to his receiving the AMA Physician’s Recognition Award with Special Commendation for Self-directed Training. …
Contact: cmckenziemd@alternativeapa.com
“2001 Mar: Neeraja Sankaran publishes Dr. McKenzie’s findings in the magazine The Scientist.”
Contact Research…
While the document in question could not be located in The Scientist magazine archive, it is known that Neeraja Sankaran did in fact write for the magazine on several occasions from 1994-1995 as the Assistant Editor [1], and possibly as a freelance writer after her work as the Assistant Editor [2,3]. Even though she is listed as working at The Scientist starting 1994, she did write an article in 1993 for the magazine on December 13, Vol:7 [4]. This however, is most likely related to an error made on the Linkedin website. Neeraja Sankaran also was aware of, and did research into, pheromones when she wrote an article ?The Science Of Sex: What Is It And Who’s Doing It?? for The Scientist (The Scientist, Vol:8, #6, March 21, 1994) [5]. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that Neeraja Sankaran could have published Dr. McKenzie’s findings in the The Scientist in a March 2001 issue, but to establish this without a doubt, the magazine, in it’s entirety, would have to be examined, rather than archive samples.
It is interesting to note, C. Dominique Toran-Allerand, neuroscientist at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York, who has many studies which involve the hypothalamus, is quoted in the The Science Of Sex: What Is It And Who’s Doing It?? article by Neeraja Sankaran.
[2] -
"About the Author:… Neeraja Sankaran is a freelance writer with training in microbiology and the history of science."Home • ABC-CLIO
(About the Author - The Human Genome Sourcebook, by Tara Acharya, Neeraja Sankaran)
[3] -
"About the Author: NEERAJA SANKARAN is a science writer and a Ph.D. student in the history of medicine and science at Yale University. /e She holds degrees in both microbiology and science writing. Sankaran has contributed articles to a number of scientific publications including The Scientist, The NCRR (National Center for Research Resources) Reporter, Annals of Internal Medicine, and Yale Medicine."Home • ABC-CLIO
(About the Author - Microbes and People: An A-Z of Microorganisms in Our Lives, by Neeraja Sankaran)
“2001 May: C. Dominique Toran-Allerand, Columbia University’s Center for Reproductive Sciences in New York, develops model for how copulins control the male hypothalamus.”
Contact Research…
"C. Dominique Toran Allerand, M.D., Sc.D. h.c.
Professor
E-mail: cdt2@columbia.edu
RESEARCH INTERESTS: Dr. Toran-Allerand studies how the steroid hormone estrogen and the neurotrophin family of growth factors interact in controlling the differentiation and survival of their target neurons in the developing CNS. These investigations test her hypothesis that estrogen is an important neurotrophic factor throughout life and that estrogen action in developing, as well as injured, diseased or aging brain regions, may involve interactions with the neurotrophins and their receptors. Understanding how estrogen influences differentiation and development in the CNS through its interactions with the neurotrophins may help explain recent findings that (i) estrogen can exert effects on higher order cognitive processes and (ii) that estrogen or its deficiency may be risk factors for the development of the sexually dimorphic disorders of cognition, such as (a) learning disabilities, (b) infantile autism, (c) delayed speech acquisition and (d) the attention deficit disorders; (e) neurodevelopmental disorders with cognitive deficits, such as schizophrenia and Turner’s syndrome; and (f) neurodegenerative disorders, such as Alzheimer’s disease."
It is interesting to note, C. Dominique Toran-Allerand, neuroscientist at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York, who has many studies which involve the hypothalamus and estrogens, is quoted in the ?The Science Of Sex: What Is It And Who’s Doing It?? article by Neeraja Sankaran.
“2002 Jan: Milos Novotny, Professor of Chemistry and director of the Institute for Pheromone Research at Indiana University, opens new branch of study in copulins.”
“2002 April: Dr. Novotny fired from Indiana University for “breach of protocol”, in that his research was considered a liability (two male subjects attempted to sue the university after the study).”
"Our laboratory has long been involved with developing new high-resolution and ultra-sensitive bioanalytical separation techniques. Current research focuses on substantial improvement in resolution of complex biological mixtures and identification of the separated compounds through techniques such as electrospray mass spectrometry and matrix-assisted laser desorption/ionization mass spectrometry. …
Biochemically related investigations concern lipid peroxidation and its connection to the molecular mechanisms of aging and certain human diseases. For several years, our laboratory has also been active in the identification of mammalian pheromones and the biochemical aspects of olfaction. Olfactorily receptive proteins have now been isolated from mammalian tissues, and we are currently pursuing their structures, binding sites for pheromones, and the relevant molecular dynamic aspects. The membrane-bound receptor proteins are being probed for their interaction with pheromones and the consequent transmembrane signaling. Our research program gives graduate students opportunities to learn about modern analytical instrumentation and how to apply it to problems of biological significance."
“2001 July: Copulin studies at Indiana University are removed from curriculum.”
Unconfirmed, until an interview with an aforementioned researcher is conducted.
Thus concludes the document written up in 2009, and updated for 2017, into this conspiracy theory.
The characters involved in Sandra Morrishaun’s story is, as you see, possible in their fields of study. However, their work does not demonstrate from their published papers that such studies exist, but as is claimed Dr. Milos Novotny’s work from Indiana University was removed.. But what about C. Dominique Toran-Allerand’s work from Columbia, are we to believe she had her work taken down as well? Where is the claimed research for copulins in the hypothalamus by C. Dominique Toran-Allerand’s in PubChem Did Neeraja Sankaran’s publish Dr. Clancy D. McKenzie findings in the scientist?
These can be answered one of two ways:
Someone contacting these individual to get more information to confirm or deny the claims, or
Others finding the articles that were supposedly published, such as in The Scientist, 2001 by Neeraja Sankaran.
Can anyone find the college she claims to have graduated from? It is fictional.
Secondly the two March editions of the Scientist for 2001 do not have any mention of McKenzie in them. They are available in hard copy at some libraries.
Thirdly Neerja Sankaran has confirmed she knows nothing about the article from McKenzie.
Any comments really appreciated. I really woyld like to put all this to bed once and for all if we can.
Sorry if there has been a delay in my response, but I do not know how I came to be cited about this. At first I thought it might have been a Hot Papers article but the date is all wrong.You are correct in your information about when I worked for and wrote for The Scientist. By 2001 I was a graduate student in the History of Science and was certainly not writing about this topic. In fact I know nothing about it even casually, and so am not able to help at all. I apologize for the confusion, even if it was not of my making. Sincerely Neeraja
I’ve tried searching Whittman College in multiple browsers, looked through the colleges listed in that state from sites like CityTownInfo, searching Whittman and Whitman in yellow pages for Bedford, New Hampshire with no school results. Looking like it is a fictional school, unless it was closed down but there would still be a record of it if it had been closed. Also the National Center for Education Statistics has no accredited schools for Whittman listed in the entire US, and only one Whitman college listed for Walla Walla, Washington. If it’s is a real school it’s not accredited.
I’m glad you were able to find the Scientist editions and look through it as well as contact Neerja Sankara. It looks like the evidence is piling up towards this being a work of fiction.
Update: Also sent an inquiry to the University of Chicago to confirm Sandra Morrishaun’s claims of employment from 1992-2000 as a professor of “Hormonology and Human Behavior”, will post more when I get a response.
Did you get answers from your further research.. Want to put this to bed once and for all.
I’ve tried searching Whittman College in multiple browsers, looked through the colleges listed in that state from sites like CityTownInfo, searching Whittman and Whitman in yellow pages for Bedford, New Hampshire with no school results. Looking like it is a fictional school, unless it was closed down but there would still be a record of it if it had been closed. Also the National Center for Education Statistics has no accredited schools for Whittman listed in the entire US, and only one Whitman college listed for Walla Walla, Washington. If it’s is a real school it’s not accredited.
I’m glad you were able to find the Scientist editions and look through it as well as contact Neerja Sankara. It looks like the evidence is piling up towards this being a work of fiction.
Update: Also sent an inquiry to the University of Chicago to confirm Sandra Morrishaun’s claims of employment from 1992-2000 as a professor of “Hormonology and Human Behavior”, will post more when I get a response.
Some people in several boards do post that men behave more cooperatively with copulins, so I guess either they are wanting to please their woman since they could be turned on, or it could still be worth looking into as to whether there is some additional brain effect where it makes you more cooperative. I have the real scientific studies that show alpha androstenol, hedione, and androstadienone do increase cooperation or reciprocity from others.
Changes in Mens Salivary Testosterone and Cortisol Levels, and in Sexual Desire after Smelling Female Axillary and Vulvar Scents
This study was only posted I believe once around 5 years ago elsewhere, and showed that copulins raise mens T levels. Seems to work as a GnRH release which causes the hypothalamus to release Luteinizing Hormone and that affects the testicular tissue in men to produce more testosterone. My bloodwork levels of LH increased after testing another product of copulins for self effects. It also increases T in women thus increasing their libido as well. Alpha Androstenol also I found does this (GNRH and LH increase), probably why the Drive Him Crazy product for women is known as a woody maker since it has alpha androstenol and copulins, plus apparently some steering mones. Several studies demonstrate that nitric oxide (NO) is involved in the release of GnRH so things that raise Nitric Oxide also lead to LH increase as well such as using L-Arginine 1000 2x a day and Pine Bark Extract or Pycnogenol 100mg 1x a day.
Men exposed to copulins exhibit an increase in testosterone, are inhibited in discriminating the attractiveness of women’s faces, and behave LESS cooperatively. We utilized a randomized placebo-controlled design and as predicted, results indicated men exposed to copulins were more likely to rate themselves as sexually desirable to women and, on average, the copulin group rated women’s faces as more attractive than controls. There were no significant findings with mate guarding.