posting in this forum because i do understand this is something geared for the ladies…however,
i’ve read about the apparent boost in mens testosterone levels and my curiousity is peaked, do you have any here?
They’re useful for men, too.
They’re simple fragrance components that mimic vaginal odors. We have some, but haven’t necessarily made great strides with them or anything. I outsource the formulation since some of the components are quite noxious in quantity.
i’ve read some of the reports of the original EW beta tests and how some women were diluting one drop EW to one gallon of water. lol.
i was thinking about using copulins in a massage lotion mix for my gurrrls 
Yeah, massive quantities of pheromones I can stand, even though several really do one’s head in in quantity. But a couple of the copulin ingredients? No thank you.
In fact, I fear the person who can “noseball” (like eyeballing, only with your nose 
) fragrance components to a scent like natural vaginal musk. That job would not be for the faint of heart. I’m sure the typical perfumer would fail outright. Better to do it completely by chemical analysis.
What do you put in your massage lotion now?
You know, depending on where you massage, you could always, uhhh… drag some natural copulins into the mix.
actually i just keep about a dozen different off the shelf massage/aromatherapy oils around, because i have quite a few friends and each one has her own particular tastes in scent, some like lavender or vanilla, almost all like jasmine but think it is very strong, etc.
yes, but i prefer to prolong her erotically charged mental state as long as possible. hands are always headed towards the right area to make her thoughts evident through her body, but diverting my hands at the last possible second keeps them aroused, alive, and always wondering if the next pass will be the one. 
You evil Temptress (er, Tempter?) you!
lol. divorce might be expensive but it didn’t cost me my balls.
That’s always a good thing to escape with in the settlement. Heh.
As an aside, I wonder if any woman has ever won their ex-husband’s testicles in a divorce settlement (maybe somewhere other than the US). Anyone?
i don’t know of any that got his balls via divorce but it seems to be a common occurence now to hear about women that get so enraged that they attack and mutilate the guy while he is sleeping. yikes. i’m not sure if it is because the guy will say and do anything to get laid or that the woman ended up being a sucker to it. all i know is that if every guy out there put as much effort into succeeding at business as they put effort into bullshitting women in order to get into their pants, well, this would be a much more prosperous world we live in.
Ha! I like that last line there. Very good point.
Then again, I can see the counterpoint… BSing isn’t really the way to conduct business.
There are guys out there who go over the top to offer value, though… those guys who become rich JUST TO influence women. I see that in many a rich man… they seem “hungry” for the attention of women, so they do what they gotta do to buy the Lamborghini, to procure their own jet, etc. Many do enhance the overall market along the way.
I can’t help but think that Bill Gate’s own fiscial crusade occured, at least in part, so he could “get laid”. Which, he did, eventually, and he married her. Now he’s happy, and just spills money everywhere, as the largest contributor to charity this planet has ever seen. People give good things out freely and often when they’re happy.
i think i read somewhere that all great achievments the world has ever seen were due in large part to a man trying to influence/persuade a woman. probably a lot of truth in it. while all the wealth and fast cars and flash lifestyle will get female attention, so do all the lights in vegas and anyone that’s been there even a fraction of the number of times that i have OD’s on the place after a couple of days.
ultimately i believe we are all social creatures and hope for a real connection with someone, all the money in the world can only provide you with more opportunities, but if you imagine that each woman you come into contact with is only after you for the money, that is a very high price to pay.
Nope, I disagree. I think that guys that are driven enough to become rich do it for the feeling of “power” it gives them. Power over everything. Power to buy anything they like, power over other people who admire them for their achievements, power over women is just part of the entire package. It’s the “trophy wife” thingie.
Then there are also those who just “have a vision”. They just plain have fun with whatever their business venture is, and their enthusiasm and commitment translates into success.
There probably are other categories of very successful, wealthy people, but it’s Saturday night and my brain is begging for reprieve! 
So the thing with copulins is that they are just “fragrances that mimic vaginal odors”??? That’s all there is to it? Hence an unscented copulin would not work? And if you take a copulin product and cover it up to the extent that it is unrecognizable, it would not work?
This would be in contrast to the other pheromones, that do not need conscious detection in order to be effective?
Wow, my mind is reeling!
Yeah, Vegas is a like a sensory deprivation tank in reverse. I fear for the visiting photic sensitive epileptics!
Some of the rich men I know have tried “playing it poor” in order to find love.
It doesn’t necessarily work out well, depending on how serious they are about it.
I don’t know if you disagree so much as you’ve added.
Indeed, there’s probably a variety of motivations.
I have known some “accidental rich”, though, including some ex-Microsofties. Some were more concerned about being loved or stopping their parents from interfering in their lives, than they ever were about “power”.
I was financially successful in former life, and “power” never entered into my equation. Especially not power over people, I hate that. I don’t even like having a waiter or a waitress at a restaurant, as I figured they must have something better to do than “serve” me!
In my case, well… I was a workaholic. Probably as addicted to work and innovation as much as a heroine addict is addicting to jabbing evil into their arm. Occasionally being a workaholic earns you some success, but not always. Depends on the playing field and who you work for.
Richard Branson is no doubt the visionary type. If he’s after power at all, it’s the power to show stodgy old institutions how crusty and ineffective they are. The “power of mischief”
So it does indeed take all types.
What I’ve failed to run into are rich people who’ve earned their own money who are truly “bad people”. I’ve run into more never-do-wells (and on the rich side, trust fund babies) that qualify as poisonous people than the self-made successful. Scrooges are few and far between. (* Okay, I guess lawyers would be an exception here, but not always - there’s a couple of nice ones there, too)
So…?
Is it your conviction that copulins work to the extent that they are being recognised as “what they are supposed to mimic”?
In other words, differently from other pheromones that are picked up and create a reaction regardless of whether they are covered up by another scent or not?
I think this is a crucial issue for copulins!
That’s all there is to it.
It’s like “unscented pheromones”. It would simply means copulins + no additional scent, much like there are pheromone products + no additional scent.
But copulins themselves ARE scent molecules straight out of a perfumers “organ”.
I’m sure it’d still work, as the scent of sex is mostly unconscious to us even though they’re there if you really tune into them.
You really can’t “cover up” an odor. You can’t use Glade or another air freshener at a crime scene! (you must use o3 to break down the odor molecules)
In the same way, you can’t cover up copulins. You can either try to hide them amonst other scents, or convert them to other chemicals completely by using highly reactive oxygen.
They don’t need conscious detection, either, but there’s no such thing as unsmellable copulins. Not all people will pick up on the odor of a pheromone like alpha androstenol, unless it’s in large quantity, but you can always smell copulins.
Several of the components are very smelly indeed, and even if they weren’t, some odor components we can pick up at 1 part per two trillion. The nose is very sensitive.
I’ve seen older men and women react to copulins with disgust, as if they consciously knew what they were. This could still be an unconscious reaction.
But, no, I don’t think you need to consciously recognize them. Most of our perceptions are unconscious, and consciously we detect these unconscious deductions as nothing more than “feelings” and “intuitions”.
Are there unscented copulins out there somewhere? I mean, ones that literally don’t smell, even up close?
No, of course not. You’ll never find that.
Even if a formula has a faint odor up close it can still affect others.
You need a fairly high concentration of alpha androstenol to “smell it”, but relatively low concentrations to “feel” it.
Copulin use can still be very clandestine. It’s a natural human odor, after all, we smell women’s copulins all the time… to varying degrees. Maybe not the kind of thing you’d like to think about, but true, nonetheless.
not the kind of thing you’d like to think about? it’s why i get up in the morning
Hehehe. Well, I was talking to Aurelie, and she’s a woman.
The idea that there’s at least faint traces of the scent people’s genitals in the air may be disturbing to some.
I think the idea is probably more pleasing to men, depending upon from whom the scent emmanates, of course.