I’m trying to understand why Coplins work. What is so attractive to a woman about a man who smells like he just got laid?
Wouldn’t a woman not be interested in the man knowing that he was just with a woman.
I’m really trying to understand why coplins work. I’m also trying to figure out if they would enhance a mix or derail it.
Not all women prefer a man that smells like he just had sex. Some women like it when a man gets around others despise it. It’s got to do more with what she likes or dislikes (which pheros have no control over…)
Therefore, get prepared to get chased (in a good way) or avoided.
I personally don’t like it when a guy smells like he got laid with a girl and gives off this confident vibe. I will misunderstand his confidence… get repulsed and I may get judgmental and assume that he is just picking up women so I will avoid this person. Or cut it short, get cold… Basically b***hy.
However, they are other girls who love it when a man is pretty busy if you get my drift. It has something to do with him being “desirable”… like “wow, if he gets all those girls, he must be good”, kind of thing me thinks.
Other guys may notice you (not in a weird way, but in a “hmm, this guy looks interesting” and may find you cool)
They could enhance or destroy. It’s a hit or a miss.
Think of it this way. Do all girls like bad boys? Nope. Some girls dig them, others like the gentleman. Depends on what kind of girl you’re trying to attract.
For long term relationships - I’m not sure if it’s a good idea if you’re SO doesn’t know that you’re wearing synthetic molecules that are supposed to smell like a fertile woman’s secretion (from the place that must not be named). Maybe another member can chime in and help you out here.
But it seems more suitable for going out to clubs, partying… etc. From some of the men’s reports that I’ve read.
Hi paradox. 
You’re not the first guy to pose this question. Selva’s right, it’s a crap shoot, lol.
Here’s my take on it.
Bella
Mostly I think its “social proof” but really I don’t see a necessity if the same affect can be had without dealing with the stench and corrosiveness.
We’re looking into possibly making this part of our “VS” experiment.
Thanks Msselva and Bella. I was not sure whether to use Coplins or not. Coplins came up in a discussion on the weekly webcast here: Episode 6 - August 9, 2011 (Feat. Steve-o) l
I suspected that some women would like Coplins and some would not but I was not sure.
It is good social proof but not necessary if it will be a turn off to some women. It seems to me that using Coplins in a mix would narrow my selection of women. Even when combined with A314 I would probably appear as a sort of man-slut.
Sorry for the redundant question but sometimes I pour through pages and pages and pages and pages of comments just to find an answer to a simple question.
I feel like I am getting my Masters in Pheromixology. I feel also that I am getting closer to making a fantastic mix. Thanks again for the help
I would really like a product without the copulin smell, no matter how small an amount I use it just stinks, and when I mix it into other products even in the smallest amount the smell just makes me feel sick, even though men seem to like it, I cant stand the smell. 
it ruins the other scents in it for me, although my husband really likes it. I hope you do the experiment, I am certain women would like a product that smells good as well as has the effectiveness of copulins. Even if a product is attractive to men, I avoid wearing it often simply because I hate the smell of it. I also wonder if the smell of it causes other women to be repulsed. My last thought is that a healthy woman simply does not smell this way if she is clean, even after sex, so I think that the artificial copulins simply do not have the right chemistry-they are not as good as the real thiing and have a nasty scent, no matter what amount is used. I am sure that you could look at the real chemestry and find a better substitute for copulins that are effective, natural and also smell nice-or at least not awful.
I want to be clear that this wouldn’t be a replacement for copulins this would emulate the effects as its own formula completely. Copulins aren’t pheromones and this would be pheromone based. Its a thought, anyway.
To answer the question, yes, copulins really do “help”! Carol, some people are just very sensitive to the smell of EoW. I completely understand not wanting to wear a scent that you don’t enjoy smelling on yourself. I’m the same way, although I’ve managed to tolerated a few of them that have given me fabulous results.
While we wait for John to concoct this pheromone non-“replacement for copulins” (Good luck with that! 
) …in the meantime…if you want to use EoW, without the agony, I suggest that you try one of the many perfumed copulins products that are available. I use and love both Passion Perfume and Tropical Vanilla Solid Perfume. They both contain copulins and I swear on my mother, (sorry mom!), they smell GOOD and I cannot smell any copulins in them! I know there are plenty of cops in there because they both work very well for attraction. 
As far as what they smell like, you’ll just have to try them to find out. Go for it! Google them and you’ll find the scent descriptions as well. 
Bella
Not sure if the “good luck” part is sarcastic but we’ll take all of the luck we can get
The idea is to find something that works for women like -none does for men, without any of the issues. Copulin products eat rubber/are corrosive and smell stinky - and adding any “cover scent” doesn’t change either of those facts. Can call it “Cool summer rain” but that doesn’t change much.
The good luck part was sincere, John. I hope you can/do come up with something as effective as copulins using a strictly pheromone formulation. I’m looking forward to the possibility…someday. Although that’s not really what this discussion is/was about.
The question was, “Do Copulins really help?”. John, you don’t miss much so I know you’ve read the myriad of never ending posts asking all sorts of questions about EoW from new members. They’ve read countless reports by those who have gone before them, who have had great success using copulins, and they want the same success.
AD has clearly taken a stand against EoW/copulins. Would we like to have a “natural” copulins product that works as well and smells better than EoW? You bet your hat we do! But there isn’t one. So far the only person I know who has had any success with producing a “natural” copulins product is Diane and she’s not doing it anymore. It’s too bad because she was onto something. So for now the only option we really have is EoW and EoW in whatever formulations we can get it in.
I might also add that Androstenone doesn’t smell like roses either. Cat piss definitely does not smell like roses, lol. It has it’s own type of “corrosive” effect in the way that anger, aggression and irritability can manifest in the user and also can inspire the very same reaction in those exposed to it. One drop/spray too much and you’re in OD territory. I’ve never heard of nor experienced an OD from using copulins. The fact is, Androstenone can be as repulsive as it is attractive. There are a plethora of reports on the forum to substantiate how that pendulum swings.
There are formulators who no longer use Androstenone in their products because it’s a pig pheromone that has absolutely nothing to do with pheromones produced by the human body. There is also data that eludes to Androstenone irritating nerve pathways. It’s up to them as to which molecules they choose to use, or not to use, in their products. So, despite reading all the “horror” stories and “facts”, if you still want to use Androstenone, there are plenty of other vendors, including AD, who sell it.
You’re right, it doesn’t matter what you call EoW. Say what you will. AD has taken a stand against copulins, for specific reasons, and therefore is no longer adding them to their products… and also to making deliberate disparaging statements like the one you made above to deter interest in/use of copulins. (And, no, I’m not going to wish you luck with that! ).
The bottom line is, after careful consideration, I choose what products I use and which ones I don’t for my own reasons as well, and I choose to use copulins because EoW does exactly what it claims to do. I took the time to research it, experiment with it, and figured out how to make it work to my advantage and have been doing so successfully for years. It works extremely well for attracting men or I sure as hell wouldn’t be wasting my hard earned money on it.
Copulins are not going anywhere and neither are the questions/discussions about them. Women who enjoy the benefits of copulins are not going to give them up while waiting, hoping, praying for an equally effective less smelly alternative. You can take that and deposit it right in your 401K.
Now I’m off to get ready for work before I get socked with a forum load of testosteroni… 
Bella
Thank you so much Bella, I will look for both!
Thank you for your insight Bella Good to have you around
And you better believe I am totally figuring out an MX to code name “testosteroni”
You’re welcome Carol! Good luck, I hope you like them!
Bella
Thank you for saying that, John. And thank you for being a gentleman. I appreciate that more than you know.
And may we please have some biscotti go with the testosteroni MX?
Bella
I just wanted to clear something up for the newbie women.
Copulins are corrosive to rubber thats why they stopped making condoms out of rubber and switched to latex and lambs skin. Condom failure due to the acidic nature of copulins was frequant. They are not corrosive to your skin in any way. They will not burn the skin, cause rashes etc etc unless of course your allergic which is highly unlikely.
Synthetic copulins are made from the same lipids and acids that your natural copulins are made from. Granted they are concentrated in the bottle but I have industrial strength which is 10X stronger then most and it still doesnt harm the skin. If they were harmful women would be burning guys dicks off all over the world.
Yes they are stinky because they are concentrated. Much like lavender. It smells lovely but in the concentrated EO form its nasty as hell. EOW doesnt smell half as bad as it used to either. Stone made some adjustments a while back to soften the scent.
Yes they really help. More so for 30 and up women or women on the pill. Younger women who are not on the pill see benefits as well usually not as noticable as women whose natural copulin production is slowing down.
I to hope AD can find a alternative that works even half as well as copulins. Right now out of all the mixes and molecules I have used and tested nothing compares. This is not to say that the mixes here are not good, they are wonderful they just dont do the same thing as copulins and thats fine because you dont always want that effect.
Tisha
And rice! Rice-a-testosteroni!