Hi everyone
I’ve just noticed today that in the women customization section you can add copulin to your products while cops aren’t included in the men’s section.
Because Turn Up the Heat is included in the women customization section I’d like to create my own mix. This mix would be: TUTH UNSCENTED + copulins.
My questions are:
Should I choose the 5X or 20X copulins add ?
Will the fact that this mix is unscented affect the effectiveness of cops ? - - What will be the smell of the mix (I’d like this mix to be as unscented as possible) ?
Will this mix be different than a product like Instant Jerk ?
I’m asking all of this because a few years ago my gf discovered my “phero stash” and she believed that I was trying to cheat on her (she has trust issues). She now thinks that I’ve stopped using pheros (I haven’t of course but I mainly use pheros at work). She also gets VERY suspicious whenever she smells something on me (like a new shampoo or a new deodorant). So now I’m trying to use only unscented products, but I’m aware that it affects the efeciveness of the product.
Unscented does not mean no scent it means no cover scent. The combo you suggest will smell very bad and is hard to cover. Search posts on the product Dirty. This is the same mix and it smells pretty bad and it comes with a cover scent. Instant Jerk has much less copulins in it. There is no such thing as unscented copulins.
Your girl dosnt have to smell the pheromones to react to them. Its not the smell of the pheromones that causes the effect thats secondary. Its the molecules diffusing off you body and entering the nasal cavity to the brain. They wil do that whether they can be smelt or not.
You mentioned that she has trust issues. I would not use copulins then. Even if she cant consciously smell them because you are using a familar cover scent, in her subconscious where pheromones do there work she will detect other women. Cops are vaginal fluids and she will know they are not here own.
Cops work differently when worn by a man as men do not make them at all. Ladies however do make a small amount of Androstenone which is why you find Turn Up The Heat in the ladies section. Laides use the Androstenone cop mix to intensify sexual encounters for themselves. Men use it to give a aura of a player or ladies man.
Not sure why your feeling desperate, Is it because she can detect when your wearing a new scent. I suggest that you straighten her out on this trust issue thing if you plan on having a long term relationship with her. I can see her getting upset if she caught you flirting with someone or something like that but not over your scent choice. Maybe you should start telling her what to wear and what makeup to use and see how she likes it.
Thanks Tisha for your answers.
I forgot to tell that we live together and usually when I put pheros it’s because I want to have sex in the coming hours. Because she lives with me she knows perfectly what my natural scent is, what shampoo, soap, toothpaste… I use so she knows what range of smells I have and she’s able to immediatly detect any new smell.
The trust issues on copulins doesn’t bother me. Because of my heavy work schedule if I had to have an affair it could only be at workplace and my workplace is 90% men. She’s perfectly aware that I can’t technically have an affair.
So does everyone think that copulins are really IMPOSSIBLE to use in my case, or could I put them and wait for the scent to fade (but how efficient will that be).
With all due respect, I think this is a silly dilemma. The real issue you have is telling your live-in girlfriend that she needs to deal with your use of pheromones. If she can’t handle you trying to improve yourself, then she needs to get over her own issues. Besides, it’s not like all pheromones are sexual anyway. Convince her that the pheromones you’re using are for business or calming effects or something. Put on the pants in your relationship!
Oh, yeah, and copulins are going to stink, my man. There is no getting around it. If she can smell what kind of toothpaste you’re using, she’ll be able to smell artificial pussy juice. It reeks (and will likely stink up your bathroom).
Scent wise no there is no way around this situation with copulins. As I mentioned there is no such thing as a unscented pheromone. Without the cover they smell pretty nasty and cops are the worst of the bunch. The smell of cops never fades until you remove it.
This is what I suggest if you have your heart set on using cops, 5X or 20X cops is a very high amount of cops. Buy which ever product you want to try cops in, in a to-go size bottle from here. Then go over to Love scent and get a bottle of Essense of Women for 20 bucks. It comes with a handy little dropper built right in. Either put a drop or 2 into your unscented mix or split one drop on a hot spot on your body and let it dry down for a bit then cover. This will give you the correct amount of cops for a man to wear and she will be less likely to detect it.
Another option is get her into pheromones with you and buy her some. She may be more open to it if its something you can do together.
Definetly take Tisha’s advice above or just choose an androtics products that will give you the same desired response. You may not even need copulins in that case. What response are you looking for? Perhaps the forum members could point you in the direction of a better item…Maybe EST or just plain Turn up the Heat… Hope we can help figure this out!
On the subject of the suspicious GF, if you have no interest in attracting/engaging with anyone else, just tell her outright that any pheros you use are either for work, or are for the benefit of your relationship with her alone. That might work.
Hi curiouschic and thanks for your answer.
First of all I’m looking for a sexual response. Sex is really the only issue in our relationship (as for quality and quantity). We barely have sex more than 5 times a month (and I remind everyone that we live together ) and 95% of the time I have to take the initiative.
I have already tried many sexual products from Androtics: Raw and Turn Up The Heat unscented, Dirty and Instant Jerk scented. I know these products and the dosage works as i’ve noticed some obvious hits (the most obvious being a 35 years old married mother of 3 flirting with me in front of her 3 children . Unfortunately I haven’t noticed particular reaction from my gf with any of the unscented ones and whenever I’ve tried the scented products she kept asking where was the scent from.
Could you tell me more about EST ? This is the first time I read about this one.
BTW I’ve followed Tisha’s advice and ordered EW from Love Scent. Let’s hope it will work.
This mix you are talking about, in your situation, should be called “Instant Infidelity” because thats the kind of reaction it will get from her. That mix sounds like the pheromonal equivalent of coming home from the strip club with the smell of pussy juice and women’s perfume all over your and covered in “stripper dust” (glitter). I can’t see any possible use for it unless you are pheromonally trying to bring about the end of your relationship with her. Artificial copulins in a committed relationship is a no-no. As for your other problems, you need to check her on the pheromone thing. Allowing a significant other to continue on with trust issues is a sure-fire way to end up having an affair down the line. Its hard to trust or respect somebody that refuses to trust or respect you, therefor, you will eventually try to find those qualities elsewhere. Rectify this before minor problems become major. Peace.
I think he is looking for a sex enhancer, something that will affect him (copulins) as well as her (Turn Up The Heat) and make sex more enjoyable for both. Is that right bidon?
I experimented with copulins in EoW and Cleo and didn’t see any bad reactions from my gf suggesting that she suspected me of cheating. Other people have reported that, but I believe most women in trusting relationship won’t suddenly start doubting their bf/husband based on a subconscious feeling (generated by pheromone) unless they see/hear some validating proof.
However with Cleo I was getting involuntary erections even when sitting in a lecture which was distracting…didn’t see much in terms of self effects with EoE or effects on any women with either of those…so found them to be pretty useless. Now I think I should have experimented with Cleo as a sex enhancer…too bad I got rid of it.
I can see the idea of TUTH with copulins might work well, but if you are looking for a sex enhancer for you I suggest you also look into MEO-EST (personal recommendation), P79 (search for earlier posts, not the recent ones which keep trying to force it into enhancer category), P83 (search for posts by Tacitus and look at his sex combos), P86 (Tacitus’ tactile activator and other forum reports) and P75. You can also add lots of androstenol (trusted base) and a small amount of Androstenone (to put sex thoughts in both male and female mind). Buy these unscented and your problem might be solved.
Also during sex, diffusion is not a big issue as your bodies are hot and the noses are close to the bodies so unscented should be fine.
Couple of suggestions… (you seem to be getting a lot of them so you will need to decide which sounds best for your situation )
First off the scent issue…do you never wear cologne? You may tell your gf, or better yet, if the 2 of you are in the mall stop by the mens cologne counter, and tell your gf that you want to try some new colognes. If you have never worn cologne, tell her you feel like starting. A girl cant get mad at her boy for wanting to smell good. Besides, as we get older our sense of smells change and we like diffenerent scents.
Once you have the scent issue out of the way, your options are more open.
Second, you need to figure out why your girl isnt into sex that often. It could be something deeper then just “not in the mood”. She may not be feeling good about herself, maybe her view of herself and her body shape is not positive. Maybe she isnt feeling her needs are being met elsewhere…I’d say figure the root out, to find the best solution.
NOW TO THE PHEROS
I would say take a look at some of the ladies experiences (specifially self-effects) so you can know how the different products will effect her. Different girls are more effected by certain products. I was thinking some P83 may be an interesting additive as it has had some good sexual side effects (add it to some TUTH and see what happens). Also like someone else mentioned, you may want to stay away from copulins (as long as you can get yourself aroused by your gf without any phero help). Adding copulins may cause your gf to become more untrusting. Although (this may sound odd) but I myself tend to become aroused and start having some good daydreams with EoW, so your gf may as well… (EoW has an interesting smell, so you may need to work on covering it).
EST as I mentioned this is a good product as it opens people up and makes them more touchy and cuddly. This could be a good step in the sexual direction. You may want to try EST mixed with TUTH.
Take a look over at the womens stickies and check out what the women products do and different peoples responses (2 threads particularly Tisha’s and Justonce’s).
Hope this gives you some good ideas of where to go. Good luck hun!
. Unfortunately I haven’t noticed particular reaction from my gf with any of the unscented ones and whenever I’ve tried the scented products she kept asking where was the scent from.
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