Day Game Phero combination

The buzz with people doing pickup at nighttime seems to be the “rockstar” combination of Ammo + IS. I admit to getting some noticeable hits from it myself, but nothing extraordinary. In fact, I’ve had SIGNIFICANTLY noticeable hits in nighttime venues when I added A314 to the mix, which most people say isn’t good for clubs/bars- yet I’ve had the opposite experience.

Basically, my conclusion overall is that pheromone combinations in general can be RADICALLY different from person to person- because there’s so many factors to consider- age, ethnicity, age range of people you’ll be around, environment, how humid the air is in your town, etc. With that said, I’d like to ask for what some of you might think would be effective while doing some day game- literally approaching women on a busy street (in my case, Union Square San Francisco, California)

The pheromones I own currently are:

A314, Ammo, IJ, IO (although there’s almost none left, because it bloody leaked everywhere during shipping) and IS.

I’m 23.

A314 I wear at work everyday. (3 or 4 drops usually) It is brilliant for me- I have so much command presence there, that it should be illegal. It has equally as strong self-effects, and has changed how I talk to people even when I’m not wearing it! (I’m gonna ask about work in another thread)

When I get off work, I usually go out, which is usually 10-11 hours after I applied it. I realize it’s mostly worn off by then, but I still get similar hits from both men and women at bars. When I get off work, I apply two sprays of Ammo to the neck. This seems to get good female attention, and it’s more noticeable after adding IS.

But what about during the day? If I want to approach women on the street (haven’t done it yet) should I stick with the rockstar combination of Ammo and IS? I feel like I need A314 in there so I can stay cool and calm and confident (which I typically am NOT when I approach women- I’m usually very nervous, over-analyze everything, and miss cues) but people have been saying A314 isn’t good for talking to younger women (early/mid twenties).

So I have a dilemma because I’m told that 1 drop of A314 with a couple sprays of ammo is a good mix for younger women, and that larger amounts of A314 (3-5 drops- which is what I normally wear) is better for cougars. The problem is, the self-effects I get from A314 kick in at about 3 drops.

I’m going to experiment on my own anyway, but what do you think is a good day game attraction pheromone combination for someone who is generally NOT alpha-esque, but very socially aware/sharp, and had good experiences with the above combinations? I’m just tired of the bar/club scene, no one is in their proper mind, everything is incredibly fake and superficial, and I am so freaking tired of one night stands.

Thanks!

When people say A314 is not necessarily meant for clubs, you might be reading that but not really comprehending what is being said. That under certain “conditions” or dosages it may not be the best choice…what does that mean?
Well let me just give you my favorite mix.

Business: A314 2-4 drops + Ammo1x 1-2 sprays + IS 1x 4-8 sprays + IH 2-4 sprays.
To me that makes me a charismatic leader who can be trusted.

Club / Pick Up: A314 1-2 drops + Ammo 1x 2-4 sprays + Is 4-8 sprays + IH 1-2sprays.
That makes me attractive, charismatic and alpha with a hint of sensitivity.

I love A314 for pick up / dating. I just tone it down so I don’t come off as over powering, stodgy etc.

Use A314 and an ammo mix just switch the ratios for the venue. More A314 and less ammo for biz…more ammo and less A314 for fun. Sound good?

Edited to add: I’m 45 and have no trouble attracting women from 18-40+ with my fun mix.

Excellent clarification, my friend, I will give that a try. Sounds like I should re-stock up on some IH too! I’m of course going to experiment around a bit with different combinations, but what you’ve said seems to make excellent sense. I’m going to give it a go- perhaps later this afternoon!

Just so you’re aware, if you have leakages in shipping you can contact customer service (I did via e-mail) and they will refund you part/full. Provided they will ask you to take pictures and e-mail it to them of the bottles to show how much is missing. Yes, taking a picture through the dark purple bottle to show how much is missing is difficult.

Also good to know! Although, as much free stuff as I get with my orders, I’d feel like a bit of a little whiner if I asked for a refund for a leaked TOGO :stuck_out_tongue: I think I’ll just buy another one.

Okay, first things first; Androsterone is far better than androstenone for most younger girls. So that’s what you’re seeing with a314 most likely. Androstenone can even scare away many girls. This partly comes down to your intentions, however. -none is going to scare away those girls who aren’t interested in having sex with you, so if you’re looking to get laid only (I’m not looking to get laid or pick up girls. I’m married. I just want to be charismatic and understand how people work.) it may be a decent screening mechanism.

You may consider replacing the Ammo entirely with other mones.

  1. If you’re looking to meet people cold in broad daylight, go with socials (alpha and beta androstenol… it’s harder to overdose on this stuff)
    some androstadienone for physical comfort, Instant Shine for positive re-enforcement, some form of AndrostAnol for visual interest. The stuff is sticky and stays forever and you don’t need much, so if you’re going to be doing multiple sprays use androstAnol lightly (1 or 2 mcg/spray) to prevent overdose.

  2. AndrostAnone is a lot safer in terms of negative hits than androstenone. You should definitely add it to your mix. It’s worth playing with a mix that relies entirely on rone and Anone
    for your alpha signature and leaves enone behind. That’s not ideal for all situations, but it will make you less threatening.

  3. DHEA can make you seem less threatening but can also remove your alpha edge so don’t overdo it. It’s cheap. You can make a basically unlimited amount from one bottle of supplements. Personally I prefer to buffer enone with androstadienone. People have said that a DHEA overdose has had people treating them like a child.

  4. A little bit of Est gives a nice “help me” vibe. It’s not dominant, but does help with a sort of “florence nightengale” effect if your opening on a street is something along time lines of “can you help me with…” It re-enforces the social proof that you’re someone who SHOULD be helped and taken care of.

I myself produce very little rone, and come off as pleasant when I talk. So when I wear a314 I don’t like to tell people what to do. I end up asking questions, and talking about myself to but rarely the fatherly tell me what to do vibe is present.

I find I need 2 sprays along with shine to get the confident effect. 1 spray and I don’t feel much confidence from the mix that is.

With ammo/is I come across as a soft spoken gentleman who has confidence and sensuality… but nothing happens because the mix itself doesn’t give me real confidence. I know confidence comes from inside but I’m talking about mones self effects here.

You mention you want attract young girls but many don’t respond to high a314 drops. So the secret is WOLF. have you tried it, young girls love it … It gives you high value like a314 without the intimidation factor.

For me plain ol ammo/is works great for church, bingo, social parties with friends etc and maybe some smiles and charima but ruins the vibe to make anything happen. It’s just too mild for my personality. A314/IS works best for me but you need to be around confident women when you wear it. I find the dosage which gives me the best results is 2 sprays with 8 sprays of shine. Funny thing is this dosage gives me balls of steel and I attract 25 year old beauties even though I’m over 40 now.

It also forces me to take the lead. And that is good habit as a man.

But I really think you should look into WOLF…

dsouza