Desperate HELP!!!!!!!!!

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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OK guys im still new to the mones, been testing for a week now and im starting to be able compare and recognise difference to pheromone hits and whats just a common nice person talk.

However, I have a very big problem.
Im a nice guy straight 22 and good looking. But i have been judges by people who are curious if im gay etc some ppl i know now say "hey u member when we first met i thought u were gay! So it hurts me to think that people would be like that, and makes me so insecure. Especially if im trying to get women!

What i wanna know is will a134 help me become a masculine tougher person if apply more but without ODing? I need advice so bad i Dont wanna be the “nice guy” that girls keep for friends get my drift…

i Have
a134
instant openess
Ammo
Turn up the heat
to go’s:
IO
IS
IH
TUTH
Ammo
IFM

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Omg Help!!!

Mission: Target pussy, eliminate any gayness :cool:

Subject:22 male white good looking and STRAIGHT

Background: Nice guy, funny, genuine, what you see is what you get

Problem: Some people judging me as to if im gay or not

Analysis; My voice (not high- but not exactly barry white)
The way i dress( always look good, never a messy bogan look)
Being too nice to people, always smiling etc

Future Problems: Effecting my game plan (women thinking im gay)
Losing confidence
Insecurity of approaching women thinking im gay

Ration Pack: a134, IO,TUTH,AMMO- to go’s IO,IS,IH,IFM,AMMO,TUTH

The people who i have met now friends etc have told me “you know when i first met u i thought u were gay” so i cant afford to have any hot babes think that if i go to pick them up!

I need to become or at least be seen as the Masculine material, no one would day think im gay! i hate it nothing agaisnt gays but fuck i dont wanna be known as a nice guy gay femine fairy! I wanna be the machine who picks up girls yet is respectable to them unless its a club fix :wink: lol.

I need advice i dont wanna overdoes on too much a134 yet i dont wanna use to little lol any good mixes, personal advice, whether i should change something about me?

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Either the Ammo or the A314 should send off enough of a signal so people will not think you are gay.

The catch with A314 is that it sends off such a strong vibe you really have to “be” the man in order to carry it off.

The other thing is perhaps ask a couple friends who have made that comment why they thought you were gay. If you see a common thread in their comments then perhps you know which behaviors to modify so that you do not come across as gay.

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sweet thanks lol oops i posted another thread of the same topic cos i didnt think the first one got trough my bad!

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Hello Dantheman,
thank you for this interesting thread. Before strating to type my answer, I’d like to ask you some more information. What products did you use, how much of them and on which scene (club, stripclubs, school, coffee shop, malls, libraries, etc…)?
Your guess about A314 could be good. it’d help you having an alpha status. Of course I don’t know about you and how do you behave with girls and people, and the problem is that 90% of your results would be only from you and probably less than 10% for the Pheros. So, it’s not that you wear A314 and you’ve over an Instant Macho Boy. I don’t know if I explained myself well. You should behave accordingly to the Phero that you’re wearing.
Ok, next suggestions would be also to try AMMO (I’ve seen that you have it) and try, if you buy it both Instant Gentleman or Instant Jerk.

Ok, keep us updated!

See ya

Franz

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  1. Dress more masculine.
  2. Grow facial hair
  3. Change your tonality and vocal projection to be deeper and more masculine – there are programs you can get.
  4. Don’t think out loud.
  5. Watch out for gay buzz words.

Most guys that come off gay, it’s because they act, sound, look, or talk – like gay people do. Sometimes the situation is as easy as making some changes and pulling back on some of the feminine energy and going towards a more masculine energy. Think of the ways you come off feminine and eliminate some of them. Im sure A314 will help too.

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Im very easy going with everyone, i never have any problems with people not liking me etc i think though being to nice ppl must think its a giveaway or some crap.

The only ime ive been confronted is by friends, and drunk women who are to drunk to care what they say.

I have worn a134 and noticed i get so m any looks even when im not that close to the person i dunno what it is! The only problem is, changing to become congruent wth the pheromones as in

A134- what do i do or say to be more alpha? More confidence? talk more?
get my drift? thanks so much for the help guys!

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Sometimes people are just judgemental. Remember also that if it’s only one or two guys who say something like that to you that it could be that they may just be projecting their own insecurities onto you. Pheromonally AMMO, A314, and IG are the ones you want.

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Believe it or not, my own dad’s asked me if I’m gay (due to some very confusing circumstances for him). :smiley: That’s the very same year a girl randomly bitches me out for having too much testosterone..go figure. :roll_eyes:

It’s not like it happens all the time, but there definitely have been a couple times throughout my life. I’m a picky guy, and just cause there are girls there doesn’t mean I’m gonna be hitting on them. If I’m picky enough, some guys and girls might just think I’m not into girls because they haven’t seen my actually go try and pick up girls. When I do meet a girl I’m into, they’re surprised. :slight_smile:

My two biggest suggestions would be, if you’re really annoyed, change your behavior. Maybe some people will see it as macho, ego-defense, behavior though, so you never know. My second suggestion, IMO, a much easier one, is to just ignore them. Why does it hurt you when people think you’re gay? Do you perhaps value gays lower than heteros, and you think other people do as well, hence you feeling hurt when you’re called gay? I dunno, I’m just asking.

For me, it’s not a big deal. I know I like pussy, not dick. End of story. :slight_smile: It’s like someone thinking I’m Chinese instead of Korean or some stupid shit like that. The first time, I’d just go, nah I’m Korean. If they keep at it though, it gets really annoying. Well, if they ask if I’m gay, I’ll just laugh and tell them no. If they keep at it, then I’ll just show them I’m not. (Or if I don’t know them at all, I’ll fuck with them just to get them to go away. :smiley:)

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Androsterone is found in straight males more than gay males.
Contrary to popular it is the true alpha male mone, while androstenone
is simpy sexual or bad ass, I’d reccomend a high dose of Gentleman, low or no alpha androstenol but high beta androstenol combined with a little androstenone.
So 3 sprays IG/m
3 sprays cttm2 or honesty
1-2 sprays of Tuth.
I hope this works out for you. Sorry if you get no results with this mix, but from my 4 year research this might be a killer mix for someone who people think is gay. Definitely stay away from WAGG though, people thought I was gay and got me some gay hits. Before Wagg I was never ever labeled as gay.

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OK this is what you do…

Use a few drops of A314 as a base, Then use some Turn Up The Heat 1 or 2 sprays max, Some AMMO to cover those and just a tiny spray or two of Instant Openness. Instant Gentleman would be good in place of AMMO but you dont have that in your line up so the A314 will cover that. This is good socially. For daily use like at work use less Turn Up The Heat.

Keep in mind as crash mentioned Androsterone signals masculinity while Androstenone signals sexuality.

Learn to use masculine body language and practice it more often. Nothing disgusting LOL. There is a link in my signature to help you there. Look under power body language and aggressive as well as dominant. After you get the body language down some you can pull back a little on the heavy male pheromones and balance it out with the socials.

There you go all fixed :wink:

Tisha

PS I combined your threads

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And to think…I was going to suggest lifting weigths/join a gym …this site is amazing!!! can’t wait until my order comes in… :slight_smile:

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Ummm you keep saying 134, and of course I assume you mean A314. But if you really have MX134, know that it is a women’s mix and that could be your problem right there. If 314 is your poison, try lowering your voice. When I assume a guy is gay it is usually due to the following, in descending order of importance: 1. high stereotypically gay voice (sometimes easily confused with a caring, educated tonality–like John Gray) 2. overly stylish, close fitting clothes 3. clearly not into me (!) :wink:

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  1. change the way you walk
  2. change your tone of voice
  3. speak slowly
  4. don’t use excess body language

pheromones, you wanna use anything with -rone, use that as the main base, and then ON TOP of that, add a little bit -none, don’t use more -none than -rone.

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Bro, girls only say that when :

1.they like you, feel ignored
2. think you are too good for them
3. you’re not interested
4. they have a bf that isn’t as good as you, and are pissed they aren’t with you
5. are man haters, and believe all good looking men are players, usually because they have been hurt

A woman says those things when “it is about her,” It actually has nothing to do with you. It’s a defense mechanism because women want to believe and often do, that they can land any guy on earth because they are a woman. It is a big blow to their ego when they are rejected by a man.

I’ve ignored plenty of girls, and they get so pissed, I’ve heard them say the same things on numerous occasions, sometimes within hearing distance. Every time, the girl had a crush on me or wanted me to get with her. I would just smile and laugh, and continue to ignore her because I don’t play those games, don’t have to. Then I would walk up to another girl, start talking to them, and they would just stare at me with a look of complete anger.

Most women are “PC” Politically correct, so when they say that, they are often flirting (it is a shit test) and often want you to take control and seduce them. It’s crazy out there bro.

Don’t let it eat away at you though, because it will drive you crazy.

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Look, be yourself. Don’t be anyone else but yourself. What ever happened to sticks and stones may break my bones.
So what if someone calls you gay, maybe they don’t have any comebacks so all their ignorant ass knows is the word gay.

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It’s a combo of that and jealousy. Guys say it to other guys out of envy or jealousy because of looks/achievement or status. Girls say it about guys because they feel ignored, are attention whores, like the person and feel he is too good for them or has a significant other that exhibit certain qualities that you have that she wishes he did and hurls insults towards that man called “negging” or knocking that person down a notch, to make themselves feel at ease. It is often a defense mechanism.

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Hmmm, I always assume that if a male asks me if I’m gay, it’s because he’s on the down-lo testing the waters…

Then I simply reply:

“Oh, no.. I’m SOOOORRY.. I totally respect your lifestyle though.. maybe we can find out if there’s a gay bar around you can go to?”

When girls asks me it’s a standard shit test which means they want me to bang their brains out :smiley:

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who brought up a 2008 post? lol

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Me? You mad bro??? The saying “you mad bro” is over rated and def. used by tools but it fits here perfectly.

in b4 rep crew - hate this saying too but again it fits :open_mouth::open_mouth::open_mouth: