Ok, Right now I am taking pills - zinc 50 mg, dhea - 12.5 mg, and tribulus 350 mg. When I start using the magic potions, should I take those pills, cause i know dhea helps produce more -none. and I don’t want to over dose it. Also, In college class, If I decide to use mx103 and ammo. how much should i put it on and where. Also should I use deodrant, and shower everyday with soap.
DHEA is something you might wanta take when you’re pushin’ 50. Won’t do much at 22 as you produce plenty. Probably don’t need any extra androstenone unless you’re going for the caveman vibe. Probably products rich in androsterone and androstenol will be best for your social and romantic life.
Yeah, daily showers with soap is a good idea if you wanta make friends or date…
Yes listen to Gegogi, young folks seem to benefit really really well from -rone.
DHEA has helped me before and 12.5 mg of it is a pretty weak dose. So if DHEA is working for you then more power to you but Gegogi is right about androsterone. It is the first pheromone that got me into the phero scene. I would reccomend trying it out .
You are saying 12.5 mg a weak dose, I don’t y the heck, today after taking the pill, i started to smell a bit monkey funky, even though i had deo on. I even sprayed -> tag ‘wild’ all over my clothes, still i had the light funky smell.
What happen after the class, i talk with this asian girl, she is in 2 of my classes, we were going to a hcsa meeting, and her ride or her cousin showed up in the mid of the way. She said, to her cousin that she needs to wait cause of her meeting. I told her that I will give her ride back home, she thought for a minute, therefore the cousin said she will wait for an hour. On the way she returned thanks to me, and also said that let be regular study partner…hmmm 
. damn there were 40 girls and 10 guys attending the meeting, i knew half the girls cause half of them were in my class. they all came and started talking with me, [this is without potions, damn i am producing lots of -none]. at this point all i smell is the fragnance from the girl, not the funky smell though. in the meeting me and the other friend got separated, and sat at least 6 or 7 feet from each other. but after the meeting, i got food as it was being distributed, and it was completely out of my mind that she was waiting for me outside. I like to eat my sandwich properly, and was also talking to some other people. and suddenly after 15 mins, she popped her head in “Dev, I am still waiting for ya outside” and i am like o shit i didn’t knew you were still here for me.
This is just with 12.5 mg or less of DHEA and 375 mg of tribulus. Since I just ordered potions first time today, no potions what so ever. Now I don’t know thats a hit or not, but heck ya, when i use potions, i am not taking any pill, except the horny goat weed probably.
m3turbo,
Have you tried supplementing DHEA internally to change you pheromone signature - what have you found with what doses of DHEA? I wonder if more -None or -Nol type pheromones are produced through DHEA supplementation.
I do agree though that younger people (we anyone under 40 at least) should be very careful with something like DHEA. Messing around with internal supplementation of hormones to change phero output is not smart IMHO based on the risks of doing this.
-Visionary
I could not tell you what pheromones DHEA produces after you ingest it but it certainly alters your phero signature. I don’t like how it is such an erratic supplement though. It produces testosterone followed by a spike in estrogen and finally it is excreted through the urine so I am not sure it is worth anything with regards to physical activity or pheromone production but for a short while it produces all kinds of natural pheromones. 
On that note though there is a supplement that really does produce results with regards to pheros. I don’t know if it amplifies the pheros I am already wearing or makes pheros of its own but it really really works . Oral Hgh Sprays like HGH Renewel really make a noticeable difference. If you are over 21 and have 19 bucks to spare give it a try , it really does make you feel/look much younger. 
The funk you were smeling was definitely the Tribulus. It comes out in the oils of your skins and smells like hay and horse piss. Cut back on it and see if it goes away.
i think it was tribulus, i didn’t take it today, and i dont smell it.
m3t are you talking about the following two products - which specific HGH product worked for you best for more pheromone production? How long before you saw results (straight away or after a few days of use) in terms of improved pheromone signature? Did you get ‘Androstenone’ or ‘Androstenol-type’ hits?
Thanks for the info man,
Visionary.
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DHEA is considered the “master” hormone…it is used by the body to produce a myriad of other hormones. It’s use can effect sleep patterns, mood and a variety of other things, as well as increasing Testosterone production. Remember that pheromones, including Androstenone, are metabolites of androgenic and estrogenic hormones. This is why MHarris chooses specific molecules as putative pheromones…because of where they fall in the metabolic chain reaction. Everyone’s body produces both androgenic and estrogenic hormones in proportions that are unique to the individual. Therefore, it only stands to reason that merely increasing the production of an androgenic hormone such as Testosterone would merely result in one’s body producing the subsequent metabolites in the same proportions that are dictated by one’s genetic programming. Does it’s use increase Testosterone production? From my experience, I’d have to say yes. Does it increase Androstenone production? Probably so, but it would therefore increase the production of other metabolites in the proportions that are unique to the individual. Also keep in mind that pheromones undergo a continual metamorphosis…a primordial sequence of conversion, retroversion and reduction as they are preyed upon by a variety of coryneform bacteria once they are excreted from our pores onto the skin…even our own population of coryneform bacteria are individual specific to the greater extent.
That being said, applying even a small amount of exogenous Androstenone…or any pheromone for that matter…is immensely greater than any amount that your body could naturally produce.
From my own experience, it seems that I don’t need to supplement w/ nearly as much exogenous Androstenone since I began using DHEA. However, I’m also now one who follows the less is more school of thought…unlike years past when I was a walking pheromone OD…Androstenone or otherwise. I see far better results by giving my targets a little nudge than by beating them over the head w/ my pheromones. Think of it this way…if you hear your favorite song playing in the distance, just at a level that barely registers to your sense of hearing, you are far more likely to move toward the source so you can enjoy it fully. On the other hand, if the same song were blaring in your ear to the point of sensory overload you are far more likely to move away from the source so that you could comfortably enjoy it. The idea is to entice your target…to draw them closer to you. If they experience sensory overload, then you are, in effect, repelling them and that seems contrary to the desired goal. Yes? Even the so-called “feel good” pheromones can cause sensory overload and yield unwanted results. I’ve noticed that high doses of Alpha Androstenol or TAA can cause a “short circuit”. Anyone else have this experience?
Yea I know what you mean Scottie. Regarding high doses of Alpha Androstenol and TAA, I have seen the sensory overload phenomena that you speak of. I guess if you are trying to get somewhere with a woman, wearing lots and lots of Spaceland for example may cause more harm than good. Sure its fun to see these ‘zany’ effects but it can definitely lead to the wrong outcome where conversations go absolutely nowhere and the mood for wild loving is just not there. TAA, as well, while a great, useful mone for sure, I have found too much of can stifle verbal communication, lead to ‘flighty’ conversations, and result in a ‘speedy’ kind of anxiety which may lead to negative outcomes.
I repped you for this thanks for the info! So, for you m3t, taking the Hgh renewel Original Formula for about 2 weeks results in giving off ‘a youthful vigor pheromone’ that females really take notice of. Damn interesting.
How would you rate the effects of this ‘youthful vigor pheromone’ in comparison to artificial mones say from Androtics - surely the effects from the HGH supplementation are weaker? Is the effect of this ‘youthful vigor pheromone’ similar to say TAA/Instant Shine (which seems to signal some kind of a youthful, healthy lustre of its own of course)?
And also are you sure you got pheromone hits from the HGH supplementation or is something else really happening. For example, after 2-hour late afternoon naps, I definitely notice the effects of HGH being secreted - I notice that the skin on my face becomes extremely smooth (even more smooth than if I take powerful antioxidant supplements and a powerful skin care cream together). I notice also after the nap that my eyes look ‘bigger’ and generally temporarily I get people (incl. girls obviously) looking at me (and giving compliments) like I’m a great looking guy. I’m normally slightly above average looking but with some HGH in my system I definitely seem better looking. Now I wonder if your hits are just as a result of this HGH ‘youthful vigor pheromone’ or as a result of simply ‘looking better’ from the HGH supplementation?
Thanks,
Visionary
I am only speculating that the HGH spray is producing its own pheros. It is possible that maybe it makes my posture or facial expressions more welcoming but one thing is for sure and that is the spray makes a difference. The effect is comparable to TAA or a product like IS but it is definitely its own effect it is really unique.
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I wonder what consumption of maca does.. it’s claimed to improve hormone levels after all, even to increase DHEA levels..
So for someone a few years under 40, is there any sense in taking it as a supplement?
Well, you’re the “Walking Aphrodisiac” now!
hehe… actually I’m not taking it every day because I was afraid of -none OD’s when taking it and applying -none.. I did take it some times this week as a health and immune system booster though.