Today i received my first pheros. I opened the box, nicely packaged, opened the box and i was checking whats in the box. I did not open nor tried anything yet, there was no leakage, pheros were all wrapped nicely.
2 minutes later i was very dizzy, dizziness lasted about 1 hour. I started laughing and couldn’t stop myself, people around looked at me “thinking whats he laughing for”, so i took my phone and pretended messaging with someone. After an hour i felt drunk and very confident. At some stage i also felt like a spoilt child and did some childish jokes with my customers which is very unusual.
After few hours i felt like just woke up from sleep, i was so tired and sleepy, and there was hangover from last night.
I am super sensitive on the brain, if i drink a cup of coffee early in the morning that means i cannot sleep that night until its so late. All these effects were without spraying anything, just checked my box.. Should i just forget about using these?
I wouldn’t say go forget about them. It’s possible you felt self effects, but to that extent it doesn’t sound probable.
I too am very sensitive and 1 cup of coffee/tea in the morning also won’t allow me to sleep at night. With that being said I’ve never felt anything close to what you’re explaining.
It could be that it was something different entirely. I’d say take another whiff of the box opened to see if I tried happens again.
I had a coffee yesterday, coffees anxiety effect also was mixed with the pheros effect, that might be the reason. I also tried smelling the lid of IS and ammo. But i really think these are extremely strong and effective.
Today i tried 1 spray IS 2.5mcg on one arm and 1 spray ammo 2.5mcg on the other arm. I got similar dizziness effect and some fun and some drunk feeling. i feel so sleepy wearing them. I really wish there was a way to stop self effects completely. If i blocked my both nose and breathe with just mouth? Would that work? Yes i like the self effects sometimes its fun, but its not good while im working. Im also so scared to have panick attacks
If this is your first time, that reaction is natural, based on beginner’s feedback. Some compare it to what one feels when they suck their first cigarette smoke.
To control the self effects, try applying the mones on spots far from your nose or snifing zones. Some spray on the back of their palms, on their elbows, back of necks, even on hair.
Dee A thanks for your advice, yes its my first time and i applied to my wrist and i have the habbit of sniffing my wrist because of my interest on essential oils ) anyway the weird thing was that only by one sniff, or only by opening the box being drunk ) i just thought this was like a chemical bomb ))
But yes i loved the possitive effects too. I had so much fun with my friend who also applied it from my products to test.
Anyway, one thing i want to know is does the pheromone go into my system through my skin? If i applied on my hair do i still get effected? Or is it just effecting through the nose (olfactory) ?
There’s no solid study yet about it coming inside your system by applying on your skin although some theories were being floated about it. The solid fact is that it affects one through the nose.
Up to this juncture, the basics about skin applications is that our natural heat helps diffuse the mix, enough for it to reach one’s nose and thus the effect.
IME the first few exposures to pheros do tend to produce the strongest/most obvious self effects but you will get used to them very quickly.
Social products like Instant Shine and IO IME tend to be the fastest adapted, whilst sexuals like TUTh and Ammo may take a bit longer and status mixes like A314 take the longest of all - which in its case is usually a good thing!
Self effects from socials and more social putatives also tend to be at the lighter/brighter/giddier end of the scale, whereas sexuals can me more aggressive/forward/assertive, whilst states mones have the more cool/collected/in-control feel.
Absolutely nothing to be frightened-of in any way, although we would suggest you didn’t apply them just before driving or performing micro surgery until you were certain you had a good handle in them.
Mobocaster thank you so much, its so relaxing. I will continue to try them. Could it be that i am sniffing the lid and receiving a lot of mcg at once? After that first sniff im getting drunk and scared to spray it. For example today i sniffed the lid of mx597 and i was so calm, it was like an anti-deprecant. After about 3 hours i was very aggressive person ) im gonna try IS tomorrow without sniffing.
By sniffing them directly, yes you are getting a much higher/more direct dose than a normal exposure would give anyone. Also, the SD40 alcohol used as a solvent can give people a little bit of a rush - again you get used to this.
Another thing to do if you find self effects too strong is to apply at the periphery - your wrists, back of hands, forearms if your clothing is appropriate are all useful places to minimise self-exposure. Diffusion isn’t so good as around the neck/throat of course but it is still viable.
Be careful using pheros around your hair/head. Molecules that contain or break down to Androstenone can bind strongly to hair, making them difficult to remove or lead to build-up/smelly problems. FTM, Instant Shine seems to be the product most suitable to use on hair - however longer hair won’t promote diffusion from body heat, keaving you entirely at the mercy of environmental factors to help diffusion and some hair products/styling gels etc can complicate matters further, so short/clean hair is the best/safest to use.
Similarly, don’t be tempted to spray “down there” unless you are very close to getting busy. Groinal sweat/bacteria are fuckers for speeding-up breakdown and the last thing you want is a “what died down there moment” in the heat of passion!
Mobocaster thank you for your message, very helpful suggestions. Other day i decided to pack them up and put in my garrage instead of sitting them in my room. Just by touching them i got 3-4 hours of headache with very little dizziness. I am sure i am one of those very rare people who are very sensitive on these type of things. For example when i drink 2 beers i can get drunk easily.
When i feel good i will try using a314. Jdub you might be right, is the oil based without alcohol? Is there any way to get samples for oil based?
Just received mine . I ordered stealth version by mistake and didn’t modify the order to not delay it. But holly crap it smells soo bad… like old sweat… Sorry but I can’t wear it, its like wearing someone else dirty well worn clothes…
Do you guy only ordermones with fragrance ?
Scent sensitivity is a difficult one - Some people barely get any phero smells at all, whilst others get them very strongly like you do - but remember that not everyone will smell them as badly as you do, so they are still usable.
Stealth does help keep the smell in check to an extent but yes I would still tend to use a cover scent with it and in most cases I would order my pheros in at least a light (6%) scent like Neroli as this will cover things reliably.
