Self effects: sleepy hours after applying pheros and woozy for minutes after IO

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  1. Does anybody feel incredibly sleepy after applying mones ? I usually feel sleepy 5-8 hours after my initial application of mones , even if its during the day. Its particularly worse at night. I’ve read about the “crash” for people, how does it traditionally manifest itself? I’m usually ok after a sleep, no hangover feeling but I’ve been really tired till the point that I’m closing my eyes at red lights. Extreme case was last night while driving back, I realised my eyes were open but I kind of blacked off, but it was wee hours in the morning so luckily traffic wasn’t too bad.

  2. Does anybody feel slightly woozy when applying IO for around the first 10-15 minutes? I realised that when I apply/spray IO while in my car I feel a little disorientated. Like a cross between giddy and drunk but on a much much lesser scale

  3. Does anyone know how to reduce self effects of mones? Ie. I don’t want to talk too much with IO on, I want to give others a chance to talk, and I don’t want to start talking too much about myself

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  1. The crash is most noticeable in the early stages of phero use. Assuming your join date is when you started using pheros, it’s about right that you’re feeling blasted after a round of apps. Your senses and receptors are overloaded and it’s sort of like a shock to your body to process all these goodies at once. It gets better with time and use.

  2. The giddy/drunk feeling is from the a-nols in IO. That’s a good thing; it shows that it’s working. Guided correctly, you can use this to help your targets open up.

  3. Per the above two points, if you’re still relatively new to pheros, self effects will be mildly strong. The easy way to avoid them is to apply away from you. Apply on your hands, hair, back of the neck, anywhere that’s not right in front of you like chin or chest. Also see the legendary “TUTH on a car air vent” test. The hard way is to project your intended effects onto the target. In the case of IO, instead of you talking about yourself, ask questions or bring up topics and guide the conversation. You still might be talking a lot (e.g. saying a lot of words) but it won’t be about yourself; rather, your targets will feed off your energy and the phero effects and start to talk more.

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I’ve not felt a damn thing from wearing mones for 7 or 8 years now. I recall copping a nervous buzz from NPA and TE for the first couple months but it gradually faded to black with regular use. Now I wear the friggen shit and forget about it, only to realize what the frick when reactions jump out and bite me on the arse.

Basically if you use artificial mones regularly your brain learns your funk is not a mone signal from another organism but, instead, is merely your fumes blowing back in your damn face. It adapts by realizing it’s a false alarm and signals for biological reactions to stand down.

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There are a few molecules that have a tired crash effect but its like caffeine. Once your body adjusts to it it returns and stays at baseline.

High amounts of anol which is the primary in IO can make you feel loopy and giddy. Usually 50 mcg or better. IO has something like 7.5 mcgs per spray. The problem is you should not be applying pheromones in a closed environment like the car though. In a closed environment your breathing in a lot of freshly sprayed molecules before they settle.

I really wouldn’t worry about IO making you talk so much others cant get a word in unless thats a natural habit. Your conscious of the pheromones so you have more control over how you react to them. IH can cause you to blab to much but even with that one if you stay mindful you wont talk to much. Remember mones work in the subconscious, your conscious of them.

You can apply to the back of the body if your worried about it though.

Tisha

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Are there any known or purpoted self effects from IG?

I’m thinking of trying out and wearing IG + A314 at the same time, not sure if it’ll create an OD or overbearing feeling of “oldness”

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I dont know why people keep equating old with IG. Its mature not old.

Maturing has little to do with age. I know little kids who are more mature then some adults I know.

IG gives a trusting secure protector vibe. Sort of like knight in shining armor. Some one who has been there done that and can do it again if he wants to. IG reminds me of Sean Connery not because of his age but the vibe he gives off when he plays his roles or like Harry Connick Jr.

Tisha

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I get self effects from androsterone and androstenone products. I don’t get any from IS or androstenol.

With A314 I feel confident, but very serious, but with IG I feel very confident and relaxed.

With 2 sprays and up of AMMO or TUTH I get a bit agitated, full of energy, which lasts maybe 15 to 30 minutes.

I tried 1 spray of IJ twice, and got super aggressive, very tense. I’m pretty sure I could have outran Usain Bolt.

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i got really high after applying IH.

after application of IG i got somewhat sleepy and withdrawn.

I’m new to this as well

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Instant Shine will cause a crash after a few hours for me and I’m an experienced user.

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The instant shine crash is really bad for me. I’m feeling really sleepy. Might stop wearing it to work and just wear A314 alone and IH when I get it.

Gonna be trying out IJ with Ammo. Lets see how it goes