hmmm…in that case you have some open-minded friends. well thanks, I don’t know why you would rep for that, but okay cool.
You made a good post 
and my friends are as you speculated, not the most open of individuals.
That post was butchered in grammer. Note to self, don’t drink and type 
I have never gotten tired of getting laid. You can look at the most primitive of animals and see that their number one concern is to get laid. That is the whole reason behind alpha-males. Who gets the first lay. Even in our own “advanced society” we see the alpha males getting laid first. Of course, Bill Gates, may be the nerdy anomaly, but all other variables remain true…Basketball players, football players, even baseball players get more women than even we could ever imagine laying. Wilt Chamberlain has boasted of laying over 10,000 women. We see famous NBA players laying strippers, whores, and even regular lay-women (E.G. Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant). Like I said, Animals even have their reason for Alpha-types. It was once said that even when we as men are not trying to impress women, we are still on a subconcious level trying to gain the favor of said women. It is who we are at a most primitive level, to evolutionize and advance the race as a whole. So I have to disagree with you when you say that it (getting laid) becomes a novelty. It is simply a function of survival, not something to be trivialized.
HH 
Actually, the number one concern for most organisms is getting fed. And, judging from the huge amounts of fat people I saw at Costco today, eating still appears to be modern man’s number one priority. Dare I say obesity is projected to become the USA’s most serious health issue. And you don’t get fat by fuckin’ all day.
Nevertheless you misunderstood my post. I certainly enjoy getting honey on ma stinger as much as the next guy. However the endless pursuit of women for mere sex lost its shine for me years ago. I prefer relationships, friends-with-benefits, normal girlfriends or even marriage. Bedding as many women as possible is empty for me and most guys past their teenage or early 20s. Nevertheless, my number one priority is the creation of music. And I can do that with or without sex. In fact, too much sex regular is distractingfrom the artform. I find sex better at well spaced intervals.
Incidentally, by definition an alpha male is a respected and revered leader. Think prominent politian or businessman. Yes, he certainly has the power to bed women, but bedding women does not an alpha man make. These traits do not make you a leader or gain you respect in the community. Bedding lots of women merely demonstrates a lack of character and morals. Think pimp or promiscuous man. A true alpha males’s first priority is to protect those under his charge–family, community, firm or nation–not his dickhead.
Evening, Smooth!
I’m just curious what made you think about the upperhand business.. It didn’t even occur to me.
I actually wouldn’t say that he has the upper hand (as in calling the shots, sexually or otherwise).. I’d say we are even in communication, and he was always into me attraction-wise from day one.. I guess I am more into exploring things, and he’s always led a sort of a simple sheltered life and hasn’t been very curious about this (self-improvement, pheromones, etc.)
That’s why I said that if I actually found out that he has been learning about anything new, I’d be impressed. See what I mean? So I give all of you guys credit for trying to spice up your lives..
Having said all of that, I have not explicitly told him that I am using the products, HOWEVER, if he found out, I don’t think it would be that big a deal (plus, they are pretty much all over my night stand, he just doesn’t pry too much). And also, I just ordered A-314 and Ammo for him. I’d imagine if he truly had the upper hand in the relationship, I’d be terrified of his reaction to finding out about my use of pheromones, no? I wouldn’t know, 'cause I’ve never been in a relationship like that 
One question that I do have for anyone who’s still into this thread (or maybe I will post this separately) is this:
Does it affect the other person differently if they KNOW that pheromones are used?
Yomama
Sorry Gegogi,
I assumed a certain level of understanding…The primary reason people post on the men’s forum is to further their understanding of men’s pheromones. To
What I meant was, that on a purely physiological level, One of man’s main concerns it to procreate. It is one of our most critical levels of functioning next to sleep, eating, drinking, homeostasis, and excretion. It is of my opinion that some of these functions operate in conjunction with pheromones, E.G., eating and sleeping, to my knowledge create pheromonal reactions. An Alpha male does not typify a male who has the moral character or judgement such that a moral or typical male may express. Simply, an alpha male is a male who exerts his will over the group of males as a whole. He need not possess the characteristics of “quality of leadership” or “quality of character”, as is seen by the different governorships of different alphamale-canines within their own packs. Even within our own society this is apparent. Take for instance Reagan, or even Clinton. Just because they had the support of the people doesn’t presuppose their strength of leadership. HH
I’m sorry but modern man’s most pressing issue is cancer, and yes you can get fat by fucking all day…take a look at Ron Jeremy…J/kHH
Rofl…lol, All who knows about my usage is those at this board, I don’t see nothing wrong with using pheromones at all concerning myself or others that I know.
My dear Heinz you make far too many assumptions. Not everybody is the same as you:
I have never posted to further my knowledge. There are far better avenues for study. I enjoy posting in this forum for the disscusion and ensuing debates on topics unmentionable in my social circles. I dare say many post here to shoot the breeze and rattle their cage.
I assume you personalized your definition of alpha male as it is has wandered from the scientific definition a wee bit.
Actually, he is a bit broader in scope. Outside of slave traders, it is rare for an alpha male to actually exert his will over a group of males. Guide is nearer to what happens in a human community. If he gets too pushy he’s outta there. Incidentally a normal community/group is made up of both male and female. This is nearer to the real deal:
Perhaps your personal fear? I’m afraid obesity passed cancer, drugs and alcohol as a major health issue long ago. Admit it. Over half of America is eating itself to death.
I am sorry for your lack of knowledge Gegogi, and if you think neg repping me will curtail my freedom of speech, then you are mistaken. Statistics are meant to be misinterpreted. That is their nature. I can say that Oahuans (Sp?) are the fattest people on earth. Or whatever…My staticsics could be right on and support my claims. Therefore your claim, as well as mine, are subject to opinion. I support both as long as they are valid. But it seems that you have taken a stand against me as a person. For that, I am sorry. Perhaps you can forgive me for being who I am, at least one day, and start attacking my beliefs, not me as a person. HH
You’re welcome Herr Heinz. I did not attack you as a person. I do not know you therefore I am able unable to identify weaknesses for an effective attack. I did debate your ideas and, if that hurt your feelings, I’m sorry. However, you were not exactly subtle in insulting my “lack of knowledge” or “understanding” (knowlege of what? Your secret database of factoids). Nevertheless forums are for discussion and debate.
I realize now you might be overweight–I had no clue–and apologize if I hit a raw nerve. I have nothing against weight challenged folks. It’s an extremely unfortunate situation I wouldn’t wish on anyone.
Incidentally, I did not negative rep you. I pled a lack of knowledge on that point. I’ve never figured out how to use the rep system (haven’t even tried). Well, I’m feeling a primeval urge. Maybe I’ll don a little androstenone and procreate with a little filly…
i think society’s male gender role is complicated with the idea that more sex = alpha.
how many young men today feel the necessity to create a number just to feel normal.
i mean normal , like its normal to breathe or sleep.
most of the gals i know (all ages mind you,im in that atmosphere) are a little grossed-out and NOT impressed with the number she over-hears in conversation.
makes her think he is not capable of finding anyone special,and thus is no real catch to be had.
alot of guys think we think the other way around-
he’s had alot, alot must like him.
no, we think alot are naive or decieved
NEVER lucky.
the above quote is closer to the truth. i would only add that discipline (in refraining from the numbers game) is extremely impressive. the idea-
“i can have that, but when i find it appropriate,i’ll let her know”
is magnetism.
No I’ve never told anyone. Except for my step dad. Cos he is recently divorced for the third time; 63 years old, so I gave him 5ml of Primal Instinct. The only thing I had on me at the time. Apart from that I tell no one, ever and don’t intend to. I made him promise me he would not either.
As for the numbers game - I think asking how many times someone has had sex TOTAL; not with how many people, is perhaps a slightly better question. But, who counts? I was with my most serious girlfriend for 1 year and 7 months and although some of my friends might have had sex with more girls than me; I guarantee I’ve had at least twice the amount of sex they have, in total. But 90% of it was in the context of two serious long term relationships with girls I really loved.
Matt
is a number relevant at all?
i mean past doing it enough to know how
I agree. Just meant, slightly better. Perhaps should have emphasised that more.
Was meaning that who cares if a 24 year old has slept with 25 girls; if he’s only had sex 30 times in total. That hardly makes him “experienced”.
Sex without love is pretty empty and meaningless at the best of times anyway. And it takes time to fall in love, then really love someone. So I don’t know how many times you can feel true love in a lifetime. Romantically I mean. I was lucky enough to have it once.
Matt
I’d have to say,
What’s quantity over quality?
I mean, you could have sex with a Kama sutra master 100 times, and experience stuff you would normally not experience having sex with someone less enlightened 2000 times..
Theoretically speaking, of course..
I mean, most people just assume that they do not need to study to become better lovers, as if somehow they are just “supposed” to know how to do it well..
I think all these numbers are irrelevant.. I’d say, if one wants to become more experiences, they need to check out some books/methods, and find someone willing to try various techniques with..
That is all..
HM
That’s all very true. Also, I think if you have sex with the same person more than say 8 times; by the time you get up to 50 your synergy will have improved. I’ll admit that my reading in those tender years was limited to Men’s Health; but I got some good tips that seemed to work.
Do you have any links you’d suggest? I want to be a Karma Sutra goddess too.
Matt
im more likely to think an open mind like matthew1982ct has it goin’ on than someone who claims to have had many with the numbers in rise everyday.
like, id wait for someone like Matt.
there is something extraordinary about someone who wants to learn the fun stuff with you,as opposed to someone who wants to teach you a thing or two.
Hahahaha
Kama Sutra goddess I ain’t:D
But if you are interested, a good place to start is Mantak Chia’s “Multi-Orgasmic Man”, you can get it on Amazon, also, you can read the reviews and check out other books as well. It is an eye-opening book.
I also agree with Lor,
If you have an open mind, you will ALWAYS be on the frontier.. and ahead of your peers by several light years,
and you’ll always be sexxay, as she would say
The more a person knows, the more he realizes that he knows nothing..
People who throw numbers around, or otherwise feel the need to assert certain things about themselves are searching for validation from their peers. A truly alpha type personality IMO, is one that commands the respect of his peers without having to dig for validation…someone who is not only comfortable, but confident in his own skin as he is.