I have noticed a lack of sound sleep since being on some of these products. Most noticeably A314; possibly because oil based and hard to get rid of. I mean i fall asleep and wake up, over and over…throughout the night.
Yesterday is four drops of A314, Ammo, Instant Honesty and Instant Shine, for a long day noon till 8pm fell asleep…2hrs later up, every 2hrs…
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I think this needs to be moved to the men’s section.
This is mens section material,
But I have not experienced that, it put me to sleep if anything… I have not tried 4 drops, only three, 2 on neck jaw trace, 1 under nose for me.
Yes. When I wear MX305, the woman laying next to me, absolutely will not allow me to sleep. Starting to become a problem.
They are all out
I use A314 and have never–not once–had problems sleeping with a fresh application or new one. Probably the OP is a new user and is experiencing self-medication effects. Realize self-medication effects gradually fade with regular use. I haven’t felt a damn thing from most mones for many years. However I recall being very excited–sorta of a caffeine like nervous high during the first month or so.
It could be the Instant Shine that is keeping you awake. I know from my own experiences that when I put on Instant Shine it makes it more difficult for me to sleep. Especially when I put it on my wrists as I have my hands near my face when I am sleeping. Just my 2 cents. 
I often put A314 on right before bed. Makes me sleep like an alpha baby. Deep delta and epsilon brainwaves, sometimes some nice theta (the stuff lucid dreams are made of – literally.)
Heavy androstenone products, and sometimes TAA or Instant Shine type products are ones that personally disturb my sleep.
Yeah, my theory is that IS actually raises the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain leading to elevated moods, decreased sensitivity to pain, and most notably an increase of energy. You might want to consider laying off IS for awhile, just to see if thats the issue.
What kind of typical metabolic type experiences increased energy with a brain or body level increase of serotonin?
They’re out there, but they seem to be the exceptions. Sort of like the folks smoke marijuana, and find themselves running more, eating less, and losing weight. It happens, but it’s quite an atypical response. It’s all about the routes, and what happens along those routes, but most people do not have pathways that process these chemicals like this.
I think most of these ideas about serotonin seem to cover from the pharmaceutical industry pushing their Prozacs and their modern anlogues, and from cannabis heads, who feel that the general public will accept them better if they come up with a good sounding explanation that pot doesn’t actually make them lazy…
“With the pure THC being deposited into my lungs, man, I’m actually more alert and high functioning that I’ve ever been. You should’ve seen me earlier, when I was addicted only to breathing, water and eating. I was a shadow of a dude, dude. Pot, especially in delicious, high carb brownies, set me free to be a high energy individuall” Yeah, that’s the ticket.
Dopamine and norepinephrine seem much more typical for an increase in energy in most typical humans.
You can test this yourself quite easily. Get some good quality neuropeptide precusors, perhaps l-tryptophan (precusor to serotonin --i.e., the stuff serotonin is made of) and l-tyrosine (precursor to dopamine and norephrine, the brains’ version of andreline). Get 'em from a good supplier, like Anjinomoto in Japan. Jarrow might be a good common market supplier.
Try 1g each on an empty stomach with appropriate cofactors (1g ascorbic acid, 2mg copper, 30mg pyrodoxine) on 3 separate days each. Note carefully both physical and mental activity during each 3-set of days.
No doubt you’ll be calmer and perhaps even sleeping more on the serotonin days, and more active, even “wired” on the dopamine/norephephrine precursor days.
I’m not trying to pick on you or anything, btw, or take the thread too off course… but it just knocks me out when I see people talking about serotonin or certain serotonin releasers being the key to solving depression, increasing happiness, energy, fitness, and world peace through increased harmony and enhanced productivity.
From what I can see with my own eyes (and experience first hand w/simple experimens), is that NTs like this make people sleepy, give many folks the munchies, and eventually makes them even sleepier as an ever increasing amounts of adipose tissue starts changing the very hormone balance of the body.
Sure, it makes lots of folks numb to reality, which can provide a temporary hallucination of increased happiness and productivity, but that doesn’t mean reality still doesn’t exist and won’t catch up with them.
Look at how serotonin depletion actually enhanced subject’s ability to deal with external realities of unfairness:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&artid=2504725
Lowering serotonin levels seems to be increasing sensory acuity and confront of situational realities.
Often times I see folks coming off of SSRIs or marijuana more depressed when they come off it and look at what it did to their lives, their minds and their bodies, than they were when they went on these substances.
Whole populations are marginalized in certain regions by making sure the bulk of “subjects” eats serotonin promoting diets.
I really do suspect that the idea that serotonin gives you energy is just a faulty meme created and perpetuated by certain vested industries that do not see the big picture. (not that serotonin isn’t a necessary part of a neurochemical bigger picture, btw; if there’s a substantial serotonin deficit, you may actually need some for proper motivation and subsequent “energy” – I’m talking about higher than normal levels of serotonin here, which do not seem to be the panacea they are of promoted as. I see many depressed and lethargic serotonin junkies. Asleep even when “awake”, zombie-like)
Beneficially, increasing serotonin temporarily does seem to work wonders for people who are grieving. People who do need a cushion against reality to make it through. Many younger incest, rape or other trauama survivors who self-medicated with marijuana and serotonin increasing diets seem to provide themselves with a meaningful psychological respite from a reality that may have caused self-termination, had these options not been available. There’s a time and place for everything, but ultimately, it is dealing with and improving reality that seems to count in the long haul.
Interesting, dopamine and noradrenaline do seem to be likely candidates for explaining the affects of IS. I was basing my theory on personal experiences when using 5-Hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP) which is just a metabolized version of tryptophan. I may have had an atypical response to it, but that was my response to every medication which increased serotonin such as Nortriptyline, Xifixan, etc. Mind you my theory does not deny the fact that other neurotransmitters could be at play here or that serotonin is merely a footnote in the bigger picture; with over 100 identified so far it is difficult to reject such possibilities.
I apprectiate the input 