Does it work or is it a placebo effect?

I posted this question 2 days ago and it got deleted. I don’t know if this was a glitch or someone is trying to hide something, whatever the case it is I want answers. I bought A314 and apply it, and when I used it at work it did show a few effects but I did notice I was confident and more aware, something that usually doesn’t happen to me when I’m at work. And since I notice this effects I was thinking, what if some of the positive effects were caused by me rather than the A314? What if I made myself to believe that this product has some “magic” or scientific things to get me to attract people and make me positive. What if this product has absolutely nothing chemically to make people attracted to me and it was just something I made it believe in my head?

People I need an answer. Are these pheromones a placebo effect? Or are do they really contain molecules/pheromones that do work?

By the way I have A314, Ammo, TUTH, and P109.

By the way, I have A314, Ammo, TUTH, and P109

A314’s onset can be quite subtle when you start working with it - esp in the workplace where people already used to you can take a while to come-round to your new signature. It took around a month of workday use and puzzling over it being worth it or not before I began to sort of notice things were happening a bit differently.

The improvement continued from there and as I got more adept in using it in other ways.

Stick with it - If the very worst happens and A314 doesn’t work out for you, they will honour the warranty right down to the bottom of the bottle. :slight_smile:

Yeah guy they work. They don’t just have an impact on others either. They will have small changes in yourself. When I wear it I stay in constant get shit done mode. I’ve laid off of it this week to play with a bunch of sexual mixes. Most heavy in tac. My work has suffered since tac seems to make me want to play :slight_smile:. So it’s back to a314 Monday.

Oh! Hold your horses dude! No one’s deleting your thread. You posted it in the A314 forums that’s why you are not seeing that thread in here.

Does it work or is it a placebo effect?

Come on dude, what’s the problem? Don’t do this. Everyone’s been helpful to you and if your first hand experience leads you into believing that it’s placebo then so be it. We are not even contesting your placebo theory. We are confident with A314 so much that we treat placebo feedbacks as simply part of our data gathering works, and most of the placebo feedbacks are normal feedbacks from phero-beginners such as you.

Don’t worry, we won’t hate you if you think its placebo. Just don’t make a scene out of it, because that’s exactly how the past trolls have been doing to create confusion on the boards. I know you are not a troll, so please treat this as a friendly advice/reminder. :slight_smile:

Holding the horses would be wise, indeed. Remember you are talking to a forum full of satisfied customers enjoying the products of a respectable company that’s delivering real research-quality pheromones. However, it wouldn’t be a big loss if this thread was eventually deleted, because it’s just so redundant. There is a thread in the forum called something like "Does it work or is it just snake oil’’ which contains a long long discussion on the subject.

Here is the link: Do pheromone products really work, or is it just the wearer? A skeptic asks [link not found]

Ok, I bought 200$ worth of Androtics pheromones and ofcourse it is in the right mind to make a scene about it. I’m not implying that I’m making a scene, I’m just looking for answers. The reason why I thought that my other thread was deleted was because it somehow disappeared on my number of posts. Anyways, I wasn’t sure if this whole pheromone thing was true or simply some placebo effect, I had to be sure so I ask. Do I think it’s a placebo effect? I haven’t give the products that I bought a proper testing so I can’t really say that if I think its a placebo effect, so I ask for a proper answer for someone who actually has experience and has used one of the products. I’m just a simple guy looking for some boost and finding ways to make others see me as someone they can look up to, a good looking guy with good scent. :cool:

I feel you. :slight_smile:

And since I am a moderator, I will quietly observe your progress.

Creating your own journal would be a very good way to monitor your own progress. Check the journal’s of conjurator and justintime to at least get an idea on how to run your own. Visitors will surely check in and drop their recommendations as you progress.

And your $200… we are confident the mones do work that’s why you are assured ofr a refund if you think, after thoroughly testing it, that it’s not working for you. :slight_smile:

Look for your sweetspot first. Sweetspot hunting is the very first assignment for all pheromone enthusiasts wanting to take their pheromone journey seriously. I think discussions about sweetspot hunting are aplenty on these boards, and the blue Search button would certainly lead you to those if you’ll give it some work-out. :slight_smile:

And yeah, the journal. I’ll be surely among the first to subscribe once it’s up. :slight_smile:

Happy Pheroing! :slight_smile:

You have to have patience,patience, and more patience when testing pheromones. It’s like learning a new subject you have to do every step and don’t skip step one. I read a lot of newbies who jump in to the advanced stuff before they know how pheromones work. But I will say this if you still need more convincing give Instant Jerk a try.

Definitely don’t think it’s a placebo effect. Even though I still don’t know how to use these things the right way yet I’ve noticed that they do cause me and others around me to act differently. It’s not just a mental bias either it’s blatant and obvious behavorial changes I’ve seen.

I do think however one caveat is that the website itself doesn’t mention that the product might work differently for one person then it does for others so you might buy the a314 expecting to have the same effect as it has on some of the other people but then it doesn’t. THough from my understanding it’s completely possible to get the effect someone else has as long as you figure out the right way to steer it with other products which might be a bit too much effort for some people.

Placebo? Or not? That is the question.

I’ve been where you’re at, back about 6 years ago… Ah… the early days of mone testing! Good times.

I ordered, years ago, a 30 ml bottle of straight Neroli (the Scent Base of standard IShine) and a 30 ml bottle of IShine. I also ordered a 30 ml of IH. I had my LTR strip… the bottles naked. Only on the bottom of the bottles, there was an small label to differentiate them.

I could easily tell WHICH I was wearing, though I smelt like Neroli, IShine, IH and straight Neroli were easy to distinguish in my own self effects as well as the effects on others were straight up in line with the descriptions given for those 2 products.

A314, FYI, is a SOLID nuanced and powerful mone product. Because, you need to be inline with your attitude to the mone product.

My 2 cents, sharing my invested experience, that I expect can help you so as to provoke and prod you on to give mones a proper testing. I’m a simple guy looking primarily to enhance my Alphaness and mones have properly helped me accomplish this.

Check out my sig, I have my Journal that will give you some specific ideas of my testing as well as some strike outs with the mones that I used.

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There is actually so much evidence against placebo it’s quite comical.

First of all a little bit of scientific research will show you that humans do in fact produce known pheromones. And it has been demonstrated scientifically some of these pheromones induce certain behaviors in other humans.

Next, there are animal pheromonaly induced behaviors such as boars inducing copulation from the scent of Androstenone, the very same pheromone men produce large amounts of.. Think we produce it for nought?

Then there is aromatherapy. That’s been going on for thousands of years, basically the same principle - breathing in molecules that induce certain bodily reactions.

Also there is ghosting. Wear a ton of Androstenone and see how many people WONT even notice your presence.

I’ve also tested on animals. I wore a high dose of Androstenone to a pet shop and the mammal rodents were drawn to me and the birds flew away from me with fear and totally stopped chirping. When I walked away they resumed. I walked by the chameleons and nothing happened, same slow moving creatures they always are… However I came back another day wearing a high dosage of Androsterone and all the chameleons began moving around like they just took a stimulant, the most I’ve ever seen a chameleon move around before in my life.

Then there is the evidence of women’s menstrual cycles syncing up when they live together, suggestive of being caused pheromonaly.

The question I would ask is,
Why in the world do humans produce known pheromones if they were of absolutely no use?

It’s easy to be a skeptic in this world, especially this day and age.. But I say that is a good thing. Be a skeptic, don’t take someone’s word for things. Study things thoroughly and search for answer, and you will come to them.