Pretty self explanatory, I’m wondering what other putatives enhance feminity particularly along the TAH vibe?
EST
P78 and P80 are possibly estrogen based as well as the few that were released after that group like P83 and P86. I find in my own testing these two to have feminine qualities to them. P83 has a sensuality to it and P86 has been reported to improve the perspective appearance.
Another possibility is P96 Stress reducing, harmonious, a little on the nurturing side.
Tisha
So guys should not wear p83 or p86, unless they look very masculine or manly?
Would they look soft and girly? Gayish?
I wondered about that before actually. I usually get 83 and 86 mixed up. Mainly because it seems they’re so often mentioned together. But the general effects I’ve heard “crush vibe”, “instant airbrush”, “disinhibitor” etc. had me wondering if these were masculine mones and would only have that effect when worn by a man or if they were more gender neutral and would have the same effects for female users.
I didnt mean to give the impression that guys should not wear P83 or P86. I dont feel they would look gayish if they did wear it. Women respond very well to the two putatives especially P83. Rad asked what other molecules enhance femininity along the lines of TAH. Men can wear TAH in small amounts to increase the perception of sensitivity. To much would be gayish but just like with any mone its about finding balance and what works well with your natural biology and personality.
P83 has a sensuality to it. When I wear it it enhances my own femininity and I notice I move differently, I feel more flirtatious and sensual. I dont find that men are more attracted to me when I use it though. They do respond with increased peacocking and become more bold and less inhibited but not in response to me unless I do something to pull that attention to me. Its more in response to the general feeling the molecule gives.
P86 seems to effect a persons outlook. Many women reported a increase in positivity relating to themselves and how they look which can increase a sense of femininity. For me it seems to give a positive spin on everything in general not just on how things/people look. I think it does the same thing for men when they wear it. They have a better outlook on themselves and those around them and since your masculine you would feel more masculine.
When you feel better about yourself it triggers attraction responses in others because it shows in how you interact and carry yourself. I think this is where the attraction comes in for both of these molecules.
Keep in mind men do make estrogen in small amounts just as women make androgens in small amounts. I feel both men and women can cross over and use the other genders primary pheromones without coming across as gay its just a matter of balancing it out correctly. Women can use things like anone arone etc etc in small amounts along with their primary feminines to create a certain signal and men can use the more feminine mones in small amounts along with their primaries to create certain signals.
You also have to consider your own personal stature and biology. If your a guy who naturally has feminine characteristics or tendencies then balancing that out with some of the more masculine mones would work better. If your a male who is very masculine or intimidating balancing it out with some more of the sensitive type mones would work better at enhancing your vibe and making you more attractive.
I dont think there is any “one size fits all” mix or formula other then the socials when it comes to alot of these putatives. Mimicking mother nature is not as easy as one size fits all.
Pheromones in my opinion create signals and enhance whats already present much like anything else we use to enhance ourselves. Lets look at it in the perspective of color’s
Lets say TAH is pink. Its soft sensitive submissive girly. If a guy wears a whole lot of TAH its like wearing a pink dress. Your gonna come off as either gay or a soft “nancy boy” type. If he wears just a small amount its like wearing a pink neck tie. This can be attractive on a guy, shows sensitivity, a sense of style and confidence in his masculinity. If you already have a softness about you then skip the necktie and enhance your masculine attributes. Balance out your pink 
JMO Tisha
Takes a real man to wear pink errrr TAH
LOL
I’ve been noticing a bit of intimidation in girls in their late 20’s… my body must be ramping up none (in spite of my age) with good diet - this was mentioned in a thread.. perhaps I need to add a very little bit of TAH when I apply -none..
Feminine products may be risky if all you want to do is buffer the intimidation factor of None and Rone products. Simply adding a social like IO, IH Or Shine should work just fine.
Missed your answer a while back.. Well now I know to add -none rather than TAH. Works much better for me.. Or at the least a MINIMUM amount of TAH with more none.