first go

Didn’t notice anything.
Ran a combo
Isx4
Ihx2
Igx2
Iox2

Gonna try again tonight in a more social setting

Should mention that I applied these about 30 min prior. Bout to head to the gym. It’s been 3 1/2 hours since application so I’m sure it’s long gone. Going to just hit myself with some ammo and see if anything happens now.

The gym is not exactly the best testing place. Where did you test it before?

Went on a lunch date. She seemed indifferent with no effects whatsoever. I feel the same as well.
We went out to eat and got some sushi and icecream, talked like normal but nothing out of the ordinary…except the sushi and icecream, kind of an odd combo.

Others said in the other threads before that nothing can go wrong with a high load of socials but I am sure I read before that high loads could overload into being blocked out and ignored. I’d try winding it down some probably.

Im trying Io and a half sprits of tuth. I’ll talk to the gym ladies and look for odd behavior

TUTH is not the thing for first impressions. I thought it was all anone before but I read somewhere recently that it has many other small things in it to to steer it to being used for hot dates.

Ammo is the choice if you just want to sexual attraction in public

I’m kinda confused. You said you didn’t notice anything… where? when? how? LOL :smiley:

If you meant self-effects then you might not actually be lucky enough to get them or you need to be in a more social settings to tell the difference.

Btw, bacteria (sweat) converts pheromones to another molecule and it’s certainly not going to get good results.

not going for anything specific just reactions. Could care less about anyone at the gym, they are my little guinea pigs

Try 2 sprays of ammo and than add both IG and IO to soften it up. 2 sprays of Ammo gets girls to twirl their hair alot more. But this is school so lets consider they are bored sitting down with nothing better to do. In public places when people are walking they never twirl their hair. But with ammo at 2 sprays I see significantly more hair twirling and even that thing where they try to look from the corners of their eyes while hiding it.

I have excellent peripherals so I can see stuff left and right of me without even turning my eyes. Lucky me.

Also people in the Gym are not there to talk unless it’s high school and there is already enough Man Sweat in there anyway.

Na I was just talk to the gym attendants. I can strike up a conversation pretty easily, again nothing out of the ordinary noticed. I talked to the new girl there for about 10 min, made her feel bad for giving away my spot in the tanning bed (got poison ivy, trying to dry it out) then turned her around by putting her in my debt by telling her she owes me. She was willing to cooperate but that’s not out of the ordinary, I emit instant charm :stuck_out_tongue:. I didn’t notice any twirlies or eye dilation.
I’ll try your concoction Climax and let you know how it goes tonight at the Ale house. All the waitresses know me so I won’t be able to work anything with them but I’ll run through and find some ladies and chat with them a bit.

I should note that I have been able to pull girls away from their BF’s Unknowingly while being my friendly self. I don’t try to pull in girls I just happen to talk to everyone and am known as an overall nice guy. I do run an NPO after all.

I’ll report back, maybe while at the bar.

Sorry Phero, I missed your post earlier.
I noticed no changes to my own well being and no changes around me.
Where, at lunch at a sushi restaurant and dessert at coldstone. Not to mention I drove the whole way. So an addition cumulative 1hr in the car.
When, between 1pm and 4pm
How, beats me! I’m becoming more skeptical by the minute. Tonight I will try again. I may spray by buddy without him knowing wtf it is and gauge his interactions with others as well. Yes I believe in forced studies.

A few people on here have sampled other people unknowingly before.

Went with 2x ammo, Io, is and nada. Nothing odd or unusual in behavior, did my casual flirtingm I did however catch an older lady checking me pretty hardcore but again that’s nothing new.
Kinda disappointed. Maybe im anti phero

It’s possible you get enough hits without any and you have a friendly enough vibe to get people talking as it is leaving less room for new effects to show. Or you might not be used to analyzing…

Have you felt different when using IS? Try that without anything else on. You don’t even need to go out just use it whenever and see if you feel different.

I’m pretty analytical. No different at all when using IS. I’ll give that a shot solo tomorrow.
It could be very possible that I just don’t see it since I am pretty outgoing and upbeat as it is. My buddies usually awe at the way I can move into any situation.
Example: I was talking to a girl at the bar and these two people were talking next to me and the girl said to the guy “Is this your friend?” (He was waiting for his friend) so I turned to him and put my arm around his neck and said “Yup, we’re best buddies!” He said “Well, I have no idea who he is but I guess he seems cool enough to be my friend” so I BS’d with them for a bit until his real friend showed up. That’s generally how I am.
So tomorrow I’ll run a couple lines of IS and see if I get high as a kite. I have a meeting tomorrow with a buddy over some business matters so we’ll see how it works.
I’ll report back

Well given how you’ve described yourself and lifestyle I think Ammo would be redundant and possibly even counter productive. Besides which you seem to already be attracting women easy enough without mones, and not all mones will be attraction based (though most can help with attraction)

I would suggest avoid products containing androstenone for now, that means no Ammo, TuTH, Jerk or A314.
For a first test, stay specific. A good product for testing imo is Instant Openness. At 2 regular strength sprays (or a single double strength) it’s pretty easy to notice an increase in talkative behavior.
Look for two things.
1.) A noticeable increase in strangers opening conversation with you. Nothing too extreme or serious mind you, but people standing in line at the store, or even sitting near you in a restaurant may just start talking about the weather, a recent sporting event, a compliment on what you’re wearing etc. This seems to happen with a greater frequency when I wear IO than when I don’t.
2.) People you know will seem to become more talkative, they may even seem unusually hyper, like they talk more and faster than usual. Conversations will usually be light and pleasant. Somebody that’s not normally talkative may seem more inclined to come out of their shell a little.

IO has a fun playful sort of mood that is very complimentary and compatible with Instant Shine so a spray or two of that should help.

As I said, you likely already produce plenty of None, and if you’re already used to getting positive looks and reactions from women, using a sexy attraction oriented mix won’t seem to do much. Adding more none if you already have a high level won’t make a sexy guy super duper ultra out of this world axe effect sexy…but it could instead cause a none overdose which will actually result in a negative effect of either ghosting (people will avoid you, ignore you and give you a wiiiiiiiide berth) or outright hostility and aggression.

I know the temptation to throw a kitchen sink mix together is tempting but you’ll spot results more with simple single product mixes at first. The only real product I suggest as an additive for pretty much everything is Shine…it seems to enhance the postive aspects of any product or mix while downplaying potential negatives.

So yeah, use a few sprays of IO and Shine and nothing else and look for conversation oriented changes in peoples behavior. Also bear in mind the range is in the ballpark of about 6 feet for most products and time can range from 30 seconds to 2 minutes for effects to be noticeable.

lmboff…

RADMAN’s advice from this point seems like all that’s left. Too much arone from IG could make you seem too serious if I remember reading right before and you might have higher levels already. IO and IS should be it.

But I think you should use IS alone atleast once.