No worries 
I’m taking an interest in your posting, your reports are good. Your also testing the pheros I’m thinking of getting next; Honesty & Openess.
I try to look at my testing the same way, you can never discount the variables. You just can’t calculate the infinite variables when theres human emotion involved. Like you said, all you can do is ‘collect data’ and try find some consistantcy.
11 - 17 February 2008
So last week was pretty busy, and my testing was disorganised. I also wasn’t testing methodically (having a week off 
, so my results are pretty unclear.
According to my notes, this is what I tried:
Thursday
So I visited the new ‘student’ who has been terribly open and flirty. I noticed that her scent was less strong this week, which perhaps indicated that last week was her time of the month. I guess the IFM is a week too late! Anyway, good to know for testing purposes (although it’s a weird bit of information to have about someone…).
Results this week? I reviewed some info about IoIs and flirting signals before going to her (stuff from this forum, and the SIRC guide that’s available online). Noteworthy observations:
. I’ve never seen that before in a meeting like this.One other effect: Lots of eye contact etc. from girls in public.
Friday:
), and very friendly and relaxed, like she’s known me for a long time. Again, she’s obviously that kind of person anyway, but we don’t expect pheromones to change people’s personalities entirely, do we? That would be kind of boring: you’d only have as many personalities as there are pheromones .I had a second meeting, with a guy (the usual Friday guy, we’ll call him Fm, the ‘m’ is for male). No apparent negative effects (or from me)
Saturday
That’s it!
Going to Gdańsk (you might know it as Danzig too) next weekend for a social trip. Reason it’s been so hard to arrange some of these social meetings is that some of the people are living part-time in other cites, or moving home etc.
I’ll be there on Sat & Sun, meeting mainly with a male friend, but no doubt also his girlfriend (never met her before), and maybe other people. I’ll have to bring a selection of to-go bottles!
I’m still testing, but I’m tending towards reporting in batch, both because I’m busier and to leave out a lot of the details and give more general reaction.
Some notes for me to expand further later (when I have time): Don’t worry if it doesn’t make sense…
19th.??? 2.5xIH(krk1.5,wr,h)
19th.2230 IShx2(h,n) IOx1(wr) (with D)
21st.1700 2xIFM (back/side n), 2xAm(low,mid ch), 2xIH (wr,h)
23rd.1330 ISx2(wr,n) IHx2(krk,h)
23rd.2100 ditto
24th.1330 IS(wr), IH(krk)
25th.1630 IFMx3 (krk2,wr)
18-24 February 2008
19th: After work (during which I was wearing Instant Honesty), I met a friend (one of the guys I’ve been trying to get in touch with for a while) and we went for a drink or four. I was wearing 2xShine (on hair and neck) and 1x Instant Openness (on wrists), applied about 30 mins before meeting. I didn’t really expect it to be otherwise, but we had a lot of fun.
It’s probably nothing to do with pheros, but once when he went to the bar some guys there were talking to him a bit. When he came back, he told me that they had been (gently) making fun of us because they thought we were gay. He just inferred this from the way they were speaking (lisping or whatever people do in Polish to insinuate that someone is gay), so I don’t know if he was reading it right or not. Anyway, one idea is that they noticed the feminine-ish (orange) scent from my pheros (because obviously signs of femininity imply gayness… at least in some people’s brains). Or it could have been entirely random. Anyway, the more phero-relevant part was that we had a good laugh about it
21st: The usual Thursday involving a trip to the girl who’s very flirty (code name: Thf). I was wearing 2xIFM (on upper back and side of neck), 2xAmmo (lower and middle chest) and 2xIH (wrists and hair). Quite a lot of stuff, but it was a bit of a disaster for other reasons. Halfway through the previous meeting, I started to feel quite unpleasant. My stomach were aching. I’d made a tasty sort of mushroom ‘risotto’ with barley instead of rice, and I think the grain wasn’t as cooked as it should be… Anyway, I continued on with my round of visits, and I could talk to everyone ok, but I couldn’t really give it my full attention. So I probably seemed very distracted to everyone (I was), and I don’t really remember anything beyond just the contents of the meeting. No idea if there were flirting attempts or anything. I even cut the meeting with her ‘short’ (i.e. not staying longer than an hour, which I usually do), although that was party due to time constraints. Anyway I’m looking forward to seeing what this week is like .
I had another meeting after her, just a sort of social meeting in a pizzeria with a new potential client (we’ll call her Tf, because we’ll be meeting on Tuesdays). Interestingly, I noticed that I wasn’t making a lot of sense (because of the stomach), but she just seemed really calm and accepting of everything I said. Part of a “he’s the teacher” attitude, I thought, but I found out later that she teaches languages too. So, maybe an Instant Female Magic effect.
23rd: Went to Gdansk to meet a friend and spent the weekend there. Before I arrived there, I put on 2x IS (wrists, neck) and 2xIH (back of neck and hair). Didn’t use Instant Openness because I ‘only’ have the bottle of that (not the to-go), and I didn’t want to risk damaging it on the journey. Anyway, met friend & his girlfriend (who I hadn’t met before). There was a great mood for the whole weekend (although she had a sore throat and was very annoyed she couldn’t talk more). No need to describe it in detail, but I refreshed (same pheros) 6h later in the evening and in the morning. I haven’t seen this guy in almost a year, and I’ve never met his girlfriend, but it felt like everybody was really comfortable and happy. I remember coming home quite drunk in the night, and we were laughing a lot at some sign in the lift. In the morning, I couldn’t see why it was funny, so I guess we were in a good mood .
So both social meetings this week were really successful, and resulted in plans for more meetings - exactly the aim.
Cool shorthand Flamingo!
It wasn’t any of those funny mushrooms that turn blue when you touch them was it? I got a funny sick feeling from them one time. LOL
Somewhere on this vast board is a great discussion about how body language and pheromones can work even when there is no common tongue whatsoever. This reminds me of it. If I get a chance to find it or run across it again I’ll link you to it. You’ll enjoy it and may have some good stuff to add.
Ha, nothing so exotic. Just good old-fashioned undercooked grain. Ouch.
Haven’t seen that one (not surprisingly… vast is the right word), but I’d be interested in reading it if you come across it!
25 Feb - 4 Mar 2008
Haven’t been spending much time on the board recently … too busy … but I’m trying to keep on taking notes on my daily phero use
Thursday 28th Feb: Aiming to have an effect on Thf, the flirty girl, I wore
At Thf’s place things went well but unremarkable. There was little flirting, but I think we’re more into the getting comfortable stage. She still seems really happy to see me, which is nice.
Saturday 1st March. For the first time tried A314 (one drop divided between the ears, one on upper chest). Noticed some people getting out of my way in various places, but I was probably expecting to observe it. The reason I chose A314 today was that I had 2 more businesslike meetings. Not work itself, but one meeting with a (male) lawyer acquaintance to pick his brains about various aspects of the bureaucracy here, and another with my landlord. Also, one with a female student. I rescheduled the student to be an hour later than usual, and then I was 45 mins late due to a failure on the light rail route (I had to walk it - ok, I was a bit late already), but she didn’t seem to mind at all. Mightn’t be the a314, of course.
From the other 2 meetings, can’t say I observed anything. I doubt I observed any effects of A314 today, anyway.
Monday 3rd Mar. Tried 3x Instant Openness for fun. My client, Mf, might have said something at the start of the meeting about having to cut it short to do some shopping or something, but in the end we had a full session. I might have misunderstood, though. What was definitely noticeable was the let’s-talk-about-all-kinds-of-nonsense effect of IO. At one stage we were comparing English & Polish versions of the Holy Handgrenade of Antioch sketch from Monty Python & the Holy Grail. I also demonstrated that I was a little teapot, short and stout. She commented herself on what a weird conversation we’d had. Yay! The effects of IO are so obvious. I might start mixing it with IH and try to determine where the effect changes.
Tuesday 4th Mar. Instant Honesty x4 (or x something less than 4… hard to say, it doesn’t spray properly). Only thing worth saying is that Tcf (Tuesday couple female - On Tuesdays I visit 2 friends (I think) who live together, a guy and a girl) was strangely nervous in the first few minutes. Happy (or happy-seeming) and nervous, not worried. No idea why. Might be nothing to do with me or pheros.
Ouch - looks like I stopped posting for two months. That wasn’t meant to happen.
First of all, I decided to stop posting day-by-day breakdowns of everything I do. I thought I should take notes of what I apply and what happens each day, and then every now and again post my impressions of the effects. That way it should be easier to see the trees, not the wood. The negative side is that you’d only see the trees that I think are particularly worthy of interest. But that happens anyway.
So I started taking notes, and I just never got around to posting about them. Things got really busy, businesswise, too, so I really didn’t have the time. Things are a bit better now, but I still need to collate my notes and put them into a excel sheet or something so that I can easily display, e.g. all the A314 notes, or whatever. That’ll be the only way I can get my head around it all.
Unfortunately, although I took quite detailed notes on what I applied, my notes on effects are a bit less well developed. I think I need a combination of taking very quick reminders on my palmtop and then fleshing them out when I get home, or the next day. I’ll be trying hard to get the balance right, and I hope I’ll be posting more results soon.
As a taster of my results: A314 is very cool. I feels like a coincidence, but since I started using A314, I’ve had zero client turnover - I’ve lost no clients - which is quite unusual, and a few recommendation by clients to friends, most of which I’ve had to turn down - too busy.
Now I need to reorder some things. At the moment I have only A314 and IO left…
Good to see that you are still around. I think your situation makes for some interesting posts.
yeah im confused about how to combine Ammo with IFM, … i had 1 fantastic result with ammo/Ih/IFM combo., but it was more to do with the Ammo/ IH. IFM was at the residual 5 to 6 hour after application mark, so nto sure if it played a role. other times wearing Ammo/IFM together, ive had OD effects, due , perhaps to A1 conversion on the skin to none.
Have you tried the blond bomber mx203 on those lovely blue eyed blonde hair Polish girls. My backgrounds Polish,…Crackow is 1 of my favourite cities in the world. I dream now about being back in that city and 'moned up, as i found the student vibe and friendliness and hot women everyhwhere.
Hi renny - 'tis good to be back, indeed.
Thanks for the reminder about MX203, mahalo_silver - I had intended to add it and somehow forgot. I requested in a ticket to add it if it’s not too late, so… fingers crossed. I’m curious about the idea that it’s blond-specific, but even if it isn’t as simple as that, it looks like an interesting choice. Crackow is a great place, but it’s like 9 hours away from where I live (strange for me - not used to living in a big country…). But Poznań is pretty studenty and friendly, too. The main problem is not the environment, but me . I’m working on it…!
Ouch, it’s a busy time of year, and I just don’t have much time to spend on browsing the forum. Still experimenting in my daily life with pheros, trying to keep up with the need to document things.
So I haven’t really disappeared, I’ll just be quiet for a while.
Hey man! good to see you around. Quiet is cool just don’t forget us!
Reminder to self: post summaries.
For the last month or two I’ve been really busy with a constant stream of deadlines. I’ve been just about keeping up with my pheromone ‘paperwork’ - I mean keeping track of what I’m wearing and the results, but I never seem to have time to summarise everything and post about it. I know I should. Luckily, the busy time is ending.
In my last order I got (as well as some familiar consumer products) TAL, TAH and P79. I haven’t really tried TAH, but I’m being experimenting with the other two, and I really don’t know what they do (I’ve read about what other people report they do, but I haven’t seen any definite effects in my own usage). My P79 is nearly gone, and I can’t really attribute any qualities to it. I’ve tried as many as 5 sprays of it at one time, and nothing - that’s 62.5 mcg. Could that be a small dose for P79?
Also, my TAH and TAL are 2.5mcg/spray - if I recall correctly, that’s a pretty low dose for these molecules, right? Perhaps I should try much more than 3-4 sprays.
Ah, the joys of single molecule testing…LOL. I think for TAL 5-10 mcg is a good amount (2-4 sprays)… TAH maybe a little more but not much…P79 I don’t go over 15mcg. Keep trying and try using them with a single consumer that you know well. Use equal AMMO or TUTH with TAH and/or TAL. Good luck, all I can tell you is keep trying…sometimes they are really a pain to figure out…P79 took me a long time and I’m still not overly confident that I know it’s working.
Great, renny, thanks for the advice on dosage. I have basically no P79 left (that was just a togo bottle), so testing TAL and TAH means using them with Ammo or TUTH, as you said. I still don’t feel that I really get these two, unlike IO or A314. IO isn’t masculine. Would it make any sense, do you think, to use TAL or TAH with A314?
Probably I need to go back to testing Ammo and TUTH with nothing else, to remind myself of exactly how they work.
Use the AMMO or TUTH…less complicated.
Thanks! The hard work period is ending (big deadline today) - hopefully I’ll have more times to play in the next few weeks.