Flamingo776's pheremone notes

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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29th January 2007

EDIT: Title should be 28th January 2007

One (in the flesh) client meeting today - a woman. I put on 2 shots of ammo about an hour before the meeting. One on the chest, one on the back of the neck.

Again, I felt very confident and together. I got a fair bit of eye contact from women on the trams and around the city - might have been because I was paying attention, or because I was feeling confident (which is part of the phero effect anyway). One one very crowded tram a girl kept on bumping into my backside with her leg, but it was probably because of how packed the carriage was (but you do notice these probably accidental things more when you’re thinking about pheromones!).

The meeting was a lot of fun, and (as has been happening a lot recently), we had a lot of unstructured chat. We’ve been meeting for about a year and a half, so few topics are out of bounds, but this was the first time we compared musical tastes - and she loaned me a DVD. It could have happened anyway, but interesting that this increase in sociableness occurred today.

I have to say, I like the scent of ammo a lot. Quite interesting, because I have a terrible sense of smell. Simple smells I catch no problem, but complex aromas I sometimes perceive only partially. I might notice only a relatively nice component of a bad smell, or (more commonly) only a relatively bad component of a nice smell. So a lot of colognes smell uninteresting or dull to me. I often detect a smell of mould (like bread mould), in fact, and I got this from ammo at first. But it’s grown on me, and I like it a lot now. (BTW, my mother has this smell deficiency too. Neither of us smoke or have smoked, either).

And even more than the scent, I love the self-effects. Really, I feel great when I’m wearing it. There’s a character in one episode of the (widely exported) Irish TV show ‘Father Ted’ - a very self-satisfied priest who continually exclaims in very self-satisfied tones ‘Sure, I’m grand!’: I felt a bit like him today … Not over the top, but a very nice feeling. GWTW mentioned that the self-effects fade. I’m enjoying them for the moment, anyway.

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Mould

Heh, I was going to fix this… not exactly what I meant. But it’s funny, so I’ll leave it.

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I was going to ask a question about the timing of reapplications here, but I decided to post a new thread about it. I’d appreciate you experienced people’s advice - the thread is here. Thanks!

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29th January 2007

I didn’t get any answers to my ‘reapplication’ question, so I just picked one of the more or less sensible solutions.

The puzzle was this: meetings with clients throughout the day, over a 9 or 10 hour period:

12.00 Client #1 (female)
16.30 Client #2 (female, first meeting with new client)
18.00 Client #3 (female)
19.45 or 20.15: Client #4 (female)
20.40 or 21.15: Client #5 (male).

How best to keep 2 sprays of ammo through all the meetings? When should I reapply, and how much? Ammo is quoted as having a 6 hour duration.

So, at about 11.15, I applied (at least) 2 sprays to the chest and the back of the neck. I say ‘at least’ two, because I probably applied about 3 in total. As sometimes happens, the feel and sound of the spray action, and the amount of liquid I felt hitting my skin, felt wrong, like the device had misfired. Probably it makes no difference: there’s probably no way for a correctly-functioning togo spray bottle to deliver the wrong dose: I just need to learn to trust them. Anyway, I applied another half-to-one spray. So I had between 2 & 3 on.

The first client (female) was fine, but I can’t say I noticed anything special
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On the way to the second meeting (with a new female client) - about 5 hours later - I applied a shot to my lower abdomen (easier to do discreetly in public, but also a relatively sweaty place, especially if you sit a lot - I applied it at the sort of fold. I’ve insignificant belly fat, but it still has to fold :slight_smile:. Also I’m 6 foot 2 inches, so I might use this position more).

The meeting with the new client was great. There was little or no discomfort or awkwardness (but see in a minute), and everything went great.

Both in this meeting and in yesterdays meeting, I felt a kind of confusion or at-a-loss-ness briefly. I was completely calm, and there was no panic or upset on my part, but once or twice I found myself unsure of how to continue. This is despite feeling great and confident (prob. on account of the ammo). It’s interesting that it was the same feeling today and yesterday. Like with my first experiments with Instant Openness, this repetition of a precisely-flavoured mood or feeling tells me it’s pheremonic in origin.

I think this can be well covered with one of the -Androstenol based pheremones, so it’s not much to worry about, even it if reoccurs.

The third meeting was cancelled (shortly before I was due to travel there), and the last two clients were quite happy to meet me earlier, as always. Both these meetings were very productive and good.

The little bit of interaction I had with random people was good unremarkable, but pleasant. No evidence of ODing, even considering that as many as 4 (to-go) shots had been applied. At one third -none, I guess that’s 8mcg of -none applied over the course of the day. At any one time, between 4 and 8 mcg would have been ‘active’ (if that makes sense).

Actually… maybe there was some evidence of ODing. Nothing negative at all from my clients, even the new one (as far as I could see), which is why I said ‘no OD effects’ in the previous paragraph. But I got less female eye contact in public than yesterday, and while I was waiting for my new client (who was in the room, but on a phone call), her female co-worker seemed to entirely ignore me. I wasn’t involved with the company where my client works, just meeting her in her workplace - but still, maybe it’s strange. (Although anxiety that she would have to speak English to me could also be a cause). Hard to say, but definitely worth paying attention to in future.

I know that pheromones are most like to yield good results when you’re the centre of attention, or doing something attention-worth. But I guess that doesn’t apply to the ghost effect. Presumably, the person you’re dealing with (e.g. in a pre-arranged meeting) will pay attention to you, and it’s the observers & by-standers to your activites that are most likely to ignore you (at least at borderline-OD doses).

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Anyway, about my generally unspectacular results. To be honest, there’s very little scope for visible reactions from people in meetings. I meet my clients privately, other people are not present, we talk about certain topics - I mean, there’s business at hand, and we generally already have an open, stress-free relationship (sometimes people are stressed - language stage fright - and I would expect to see results here. But how would I easily detect lack of stage-fright? :slight_smile:. It’s not so common, anyway). So I’m not really disappointed by anything that hasn’t happened.

It’s possible that IOIs could appear with female clients, but it’s hard to imagine that there would be even mildly flirtatious behaviour. It could happen, but it’s really more of a student-teacher relationship, with me as the teacher, than a co-worker or equal stature kind of thing. Nobody really wants to break that kind of interaction (although obviously it can happen).

So… I’m waiting for my social life to remanifest (yes, it’s me who has to work at it… work in progress :slight_smile:.

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30th January 2007

Today: 2 shots of ammo, one to lower chest, one to back of neck.

Only one meeting today, and it was with a client who I didn’t want to risk an OD on. So I shied away from even 3 shots.

The client is pretty unsure of herself and prone to disappointment when she makes a mistake. At the same time she’s friendly, but her friendliness and approachability is frequently interrupted by her disappointments - her face will very visibly fall flat. Anyway, today - almost none of that. She took everything in good humour, was smiling and laughing with twinkling eyes, and never had a serious ‘lapse’ (so to speak).

No idea if it was anything to do with the ammo, but it seemed to be due to my presence. It wasn’t something she brought to the meeting.

So, that was nice. Maybe even an effect of the pheros :slight_smile:.

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31st January 2008

Some slightly more interesting comments today. EDIT: What am I saying - I’m pretty sure I got a hit!

Applied 2 shots of ammo again, one to the mid chest-upper belly, one to the back of the neck. Two new female clients today, so I didn’t want to risk overdosing. My evidence is pretty weak that 3-4 shots the other day caused an OD, but I didn’t want to risk anything. I’ll do some testing later on to find my OD point for ammo (and independently for Turn Up The Heat I guess - the buffers should make a difference)

About 20 mins after this, the first of the new clients arrived. It was a completely stress- and nervousness- free meeting, and she seemed to be giving me a lot of respect while also treating me in a very familiar and friendly way.

Of course, I’ve never met her before, so there’s no way of being sure at this point how she would have been without the pheros. She claimed to be quite nervous and under pressure about improving her English (her adventure to the UK is on hold until she sorts it out), but after a while she seemed quite optimistic and happy about working with me, enthusiastically agreeing to all my suggestions (that’s one of the places I saw the respect).

Two points about familiarity. Not too long after she arrived, I asked her did she want something to drink, in Polish. Our communication been in Polish to that point, but that was the first time either of us had to unambiguously choose between a respectful or friendly mode of address (I’m sure people are familiar with this from Spanish, French and German. I’ll just say that it’s pretty strict in Poland). Obviously I chose the respectful form (no choice in such a situation, really), and her response was to look a bit uncomfortable and immediately switch to English - where of course such a distinction doesn’t exist (and which people here generally interpret as being ‘always familiar’). Interesting…

The other thing is that during her almost-continuous laughter and smiles (she was very relaxed), she kept on winking at me. This probably sounds quite weird. I have to say it’s a feature of body-language around here, and it gives a kind of joke-conspiracy flavour. But I’m not able to judge exactly what it might mean. My observation (from my ex-girlfriend) is the fathers tend to wink conspiratorially to their daughters (don’t know about sons), and the daughters do it to guys they meet. No idea about its role in flirtation.

Next meeting: A male client (not new!). The meeting was friendly and ok, but maybe not so productive. Hard to say why. No disaster, though.

Next I went to a friend of his, who had heard about me through him. I was terribly late thanks to various exciting but not-relevant to the point-at-hand events. Anyway, she was nonetheless very happy to see me, and just … incredibly friendly. This was an unusual meeting, as I had decided the meeting would be free for her: we hadn’t really communicated previously about the purpose and aim of our meetings. So this was just a sort of getting-to-know-each-other session, with some planning. For the first 30 mins we talked mostly about our meetings. She seemed very happy with everything.

We just chatted for the next half hour, and then I resolved to leave. It took me another 30 mins to manage to do that, in which time I was treated to donughts (it’s tłusty czwartek - fat Thursday!), offered tea (while trying to leave), while we chatted about things unrelated to the English language. It was really weird - apart from the first 30 mins, it was like an entirely social meeting. I’ve never had that happen so unambiguously before at a ‘business’ meeting. She was also definitely interested in me (not just milking me for English practice): I got the general feeling from her body language. I’m not so skilled at consciously reading this, but from her poses, glances, smiling etc, I felt there was something going on. The only thing I remember distinctly is that when I wrote something on my pad to show her, she’d lean along the sofa, trying to get ‘behind’ the pad (i.e. near me), before I even had a chance to stop writing and turn the pad to face her. Oh, one other thing: I guess this is a comfortable way of sitting for her, but she was sitting cross-legged on the sofa facing me, not using the sofa to support her, just sitting sideways on the sofa with a perfectly straight, unsupported back - pointing straight at me. I sometimes like to sit like this, but if I’m with a client I would almost certainly moderate it in some way, to seem less direct: point slightly away from them, look down more, lean back, release one leg from the crossing, whatever. It was a bit strange.

I can’t say it was definitely a sexual kind of interest, but she was just very happy that I was going to be helping her improve her English. Sometimes I noticed that we were chatting sort of pointlessly, because linguistic problems prevented full understanding - but it was still nice.

It didn’t feel at all like a ‘hit’ while I was there, but as soon as I left (and she had gone back into her apartment and closed her door - because she followed me out into the stairwell saying goodbye!) it just hit me.

We exchanged some text messages after (because I forgot to discuss one thing), and we’re both ‘looking forward to the next time’. I definitely am. Maybe this is an unworthy thought, but my first idea is… pheromone canary! :slight_smile:. OK, I have other unworthy thoughts, too, but I’ll keep them to myself - she is a client after all.

It’s sad really - all my female clients are so cute and friendly… :cool:

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Flamingo, how hard is Polish? I think I want your job. LOL. Great reports glad to see you are having some success.

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LOL, glad you asked: it’s a nightmare. It’s not terribly alien (like some Asian languages might be), but the grammar is baroque, the honorific system is more complicated and multi-layered than any other European language, the pronunciation is insane, and the vocabulary is full of false friends.

Some juicy details:

Honorifics: Strangers are addressed as Sir or Madam. Not like in normal grovelling English, but like this: “Does Sir know the way to X?”. “Could I use Madam’s lighter?”. What chance have pheromones against this?? :slight_smile: Try to translate your favourite chat-up lines into this way of speaking! (The truth is that Polish people can be direct and friendly too - this is only grammar. It doesn’t determine behaviour). Of course, if the person is, say, a priest, they’re not ‘Sir’, but something else. And then there’s every learner’s nightmare: the special language for dealing with ambiguous social situations. Don’t know whether someone should be ‘Sir’ or just ‘you’? Easy, just avoid all phrases that would use any of these words! That means most verbs and all requests. Guaranteed to turn every conversation into a crossword puzzle. Amusingly, the classic place this occurs is with your parents-in-law :wink:.

Pronunciation? Well, it’s easy enough if you remember that there are two different kinds of SH, of ZH, of CH, and of J (like jam), and you don’t want to mix them up (unless you like saying ‘pass the salt, piglet’), and don’t forget that Ł means W but W means V; You’ll also need to be able to pronounce nasal vowels like in Portuguese or French, you should have no problem with long words (like ‘stół z powyłamywanymi nogami’: a wonky-legged table), and you should like trying to say impossible consonant groups: Szczecin (a city), Tczew (a town), krzak (bush), mgła (fog), łży (tears), z przyjemnością (with pleasure), cześć (hi - yes ‘hi’. Oh, cz and ć are different kinds of ‘CH’…).

I just love the way the first 2 words you learn for immediate practical use are … ‘cześć’ (hi, hey, yo) and ‘przepraszam’ (sorry, excuse me). Right in the deep end…

Oh yeah, my favourite: This means ‘stalk’ or ‘stem’: źdźbło. I still can’t say it. If you want to try: ź is a bit like ‘s’ in ‘pleasure’, dź a bit like j in ‘Jim’, ł exactly like’ ‘w’ in ‘week’. Except - only to English ears. There are still some subtleties…

False friends? Hmm… ‘prezerwatywa’ = condom, not preservative… and best of all ‘no’ (pron ‘noh’) means… ‘yeah’. Isn’t that just grand?

Grammar: a bit more complex than Latin or Ancient Greek. Nouns have 14 different forms, adjectives … I guess 19. If you want to know the Polish for an English verb, you need to know 2 different verbs. Or sometimes 3 (this drives me mad). Tenses are easy, though - once you have both verbs. One the other hand, no-one cares whether you’re coming or going - the direction of movement - the important thing is to say the means of transport - walking, driving, swimming, flying, whatever. I keep on saying things like ‘Yeah, I’m walking to Ireland on Saturday’, lol. (Most of this paragraph is true for Russian & other Slavic langs. But Polish is actually wierder.)

Heh, I think I want it too :slight_smile:. It’s great, though. I’ve very lucky.

Yeah, something is definitely happening. Today was quite funny, in retrospect. I really like how she ran out into the corridor to say goodbye!

The funny thing is that the last 30 mins or so of the last meeting were more than 6 hours after application. Of course, the duration isn’t strictly 6 hours, and she was with me during some of those the 6 hours, and I can still smell it from my chest 13 hours later - but still… curious

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31st January 2008 addendum

One little hitlet I forgot from yesterday.

I was hurrying from one tram to another, and almost ran into a girl who was moving more or less at right angle to me. I jerked to a halt, muttered ‘sorry’, basically apologising reflexively. I didn’t actually bump into her, but I was very close to her when I stopped. Anyway, the thing is that when I looked at her face after apologising - she was look looking at me with a huge smile. She didn’t say anything, just smiled, really broadly. It was a real smile of pleasure, too, not just politeness (I mean it had the eye-muscle constriction - a dead giveaway).

We ended up the same tram stop somehow, and I noticed her glancing curiously at me a few time while I checked the timetables. Unfortunately I was in a desperate hurry and didn’t stick around to follow up.

Anyway, that was nice.

EDIT: Now I’ll play the devil’s advocate. It was unusual, and consistent with the effects of ammo that I’ve observed. But some factors suggest that it mightn’t have been a real pheromone-motivated hit. First of all, the short exposure time - must have been less than a few seconds. Second, she was wearing a sort of winter hood, and thirdly, I was wearing a winter coat and (not so heavy) scarf. Application points were lower chest and back of neck. I don’t recall if the coat was closed (any sensible Pole would close it in the winter, but I tend not too, coming from milder climes). All this tends to make me think that outdoor hits aren’t very likely.

When I’m testing pheros, I tend to open my coat, and remove any hat and scarf whenever I can - typically on the tram or in shops. But outside that’s not so easy…

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1st February 2008

Today I switched to testing Instant Honesty.

3 shots (hair, lower chest, back of neck).

First meeting 45 mins after application (for 1 hour), next meeting an hour after that.

I though I noticed some mild self-effects that superficially seemed similar to instant openness, but on reflection it wasn’t the same. For example: couple talking in English on the tram, looking at maps, wondering are they going the right way. I reflected that if I had been using Openness, I would have certainly start talking to them, under the pretext of helping them. Today I felt no such compulsion (they figured everything out on their own; if they’d needed help, I would have helped them).

I don’t recall noticing any other effect. I’ll try it again on my two meetings tomorrow.

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2nd February 2008

Wore 2 (or 3?) shots of instant honesty. Only one meeting (I try to keep Saturdays free).

Nothing special to report. Didn’t notice anything at the meeting or elsewhere.

Social meeting in the evening fell through, so not much opportunity for testing today.

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4th February 2008

Today I tried out instant honesty again. Three (to-go) shots to hair, chest and back of neck.

I can definitely feel a lack of inclination to start conversations with Instant Honesty, as compared with Instant Openness. I’m not more disinclined than usual, I just don’t really feel any additional encouragement.

So I had a another meeting with a new client, which went very well. I definitely noticed some increased ‘honesty’ on my part (harder to tell with him, since I don’t know what he’s usually like). The clearest illustration of this was the completely unnecessary negotiation about price. I say unnecessary, because we already agreed on the price, and we were both happy with it. It was a bit surreal, and went like this.

Me: We talked about the price, right? (unnecessary)
Him: Sure, we agreed on X
Me: OK. Is that ok? (people almost always just say ‘oh sure’ at this point)
Him: Oh sure. Well, I’d be happier if it’s lower, but it’s actually fine (huh? :slight_smile:)
Me: Er… Well, it might be lower if… (various things) (how’s that for honest!)
Him: Oh right. Well, it’s ok (!). How much are we talking about, by the way?
Me: (humming & hawing, after a while I basically tell him what my lowest price is!)

BTW, he decided he wants to bring his fiancée into the meeting, so in the end we negotiated something else. But that conversation was weird. Have to be careful. Later on, I had a real ‘Damn! Why did I tell him how low I’d go! Now he’ll expect it!’ feeling (But it turned out ok in the end).

Anyway, apart from that, there was a real feeling of the conversation running on autopilot, but in a good way - like there was no need to worry. The conversation talked itself, basically. I’m beginning to recognise this as a common feature of IH and Instant Openness.

Second meeting, with one of my old old clients; We usually talk about everything & anything. Recently, we’ve had some ‘searching for new topics’ awkward pauses, but under the influence of IH (and previously, of IO), it just didn’t seem to matter. Not at all uncomfortable. On the subject of honesty, today I mentioned in various ways that we were apparently running out of topics, or just talking about random absurd things, and so on. Nothing negative or critical, just how I feel about our meetings, but I would never have mentioned before. To be honest, it’s not really a problem. She seems to be happy to pay for my company (sounds weird, but remember she’s looking for contact with English).

Anyway, that was an interesting day.

Tomorrow, five meetings. Not sure yet what I’m going to wear…

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5th February 2008

Today was the last day of my initial test of Instant Honesty.

Like last Tuesday, I had a busy evening scheduled, and one in the late morning. I wore one shot (don’t recall where, probably wrists) before the early meeting. No noticeable effect, but good rapport (sometimes a bit difficult to achieve with this girl).

Later, before my batch of evening meetings (of which in the end one was cancelled, leaving 3), I added 3 shots, to the hair, back of neck & wrists
. All the meetings went great, but I didn’t notice anything specific that I could attribute to IH.

Again, though, it’s easy to notice that this isn’t instant openness, which had - at least on me - a much more noticeable effect. Maybe it’s a difference in the pheromone itself, or maybe I’m not getting the self effects so strongly now.

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Hmm, thinking about what to test next…? IFM, A314 or TUTH. Probably IFM, although I rarely have days when I only meet women (although a majority of my clients are female).

Or I might play with ammo for a few more days - it’s my favourite so far…

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IFM and TUTH are both pretty situational in their respective uses. You’ve done one of the best jobs I’ve read on here testing one thing at a time. Reps to you for that. I wouldn’t blame you a bit if you went a little wild and started hitting Posen’s world famous nightspots (surely there are some) with some ammo openness and shine, or whatever you think might bring out the wildflamingo raging inside. Maybe some of your clients can tell you a good place to have some fun. :slight_smile:

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Well, yesterday (7th) I tried a bit of a mix, although I didn’t do anything exciting. World famous nightspots? Hmmmm… not so sure about that. It’s hardly a backwater, though. Clubs don’t do anything for me, really - nothing worse for me than have to impress people non-verbally! I prefer to talk, and in I’m disinclined to dance (unless very drunk). So that reduces the number of places… but I have some ideas :slight_smile:.

You’re right about IFM and TUTH being situations. Well, I can envisage using IFM where there are going to be mostly females around, on the off chance it helps. But TUTH… I have no idea when I’ll get an opportunity to check that out. It would be cruel to use it on my ex-girlfriend, definitely.

A314 - I don’t think I’m ready to start playing with that yet. It deserves a genuine test procedure.

So for the moment, I think I’ll be trying out a few little mixes, reusing a few favourites, trying to fill in holes in my knowledge

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7th February 2008

I decided to try a mix today. Even broke my own rules and added in one unknown (Instant Female Magic). Which I really need an opportunity to test

  • 2x Ammo (lower chest, back of neck)
  • 1x (1.5x?) Instant Honesty (hair)
  • 1x Instant female magic (middle of back - weird place, but didn’t want to breathe it)
    3 lesson, same sequence as last Thursday - new woman who winked a lot, not new guy, new woman who seemed to be very affected by ammo.

Things were good with the winky woman, nothing special to report though. With the guy - a very successful meeting, but I can’t identify any specifically pheromonic results.

A bit more the the third client - this was the second time I’ve met her, and the first real session. Again, she was really friendly, like we had known each other for years, and almost sort of affectionate in the way she acted towards & responded to me. Again she was sitting quite close to me, and as we pointed to the text we were working on, our fingers kept on touching. Can that be anything but flirting? Well, I know I was flirting, but she started it :slight_smile:

Also, after I left her place (after, ummm 90 mins - the meeting was meant to be an hour, but it was too much fun to be strict with the time), I wandered around the area a bit looking for a supermarket. As I was staring at a shelf thinking ‘where the hell are the tinned tomatoes?’, she appeared, all smiles and warm laughter. At one point, she was saying something in English (we were mixing langs here) but couldn’t think of a word, so she looked inquisitively at me. I just shrugged my shoulders and said “sorry, lesson’s over” - luckily she got the joke - she laughed and kind of grabbed my arm, saying something (don’t know what) in kind of a ‘oh, you…’ voice. When I think over the other stuff she said, I realise she was trying to extend the conversation, but I didn’t really catch onto it at the time.

I’m sure the pheromones are having some effect here. Sorry to say, that I failed to consciously watch out for IoIs - the kind of stuff I wouldn’t notice. Next week, I’ll read up on this before meeting her, to see if anything’s going on. But I think it’s not only pheromones. You know the way that some women seem more touchy-feely and more affectionate right from the start? Even when you’re pretty sure there’s no attraction. It’s as if all men who pass some non-creepy test get this kind of almost-flirting treatment. At least, I’ve observed this with people who I’m certain weren’t flirting (and who never escalated their flirting). Well, I’m sure she’s such a girl, even if the pheros have accelerated the process. Neither explanation alone - reaction to my sprayed-on pheromones or general touchy-feeliness - seem explains what’s happening. And yes, to the extent that the pheromones work, they must be enhancing something that’s already there, not conjuring up attraction from scratch.

Here’s the other interesting part: She’s got me, too. Yes, she’s attractive, but that’s not it. I’m pretty sure that I’m being noticeably (to me) affected by her pheromones (natural, I presume!). There have been 2 or 3 girls in my life with who I could identify this effect: it’s a smell, more or less. Not even a particularly pleasant scent - at least, I could imagine that if other guys were perceiving the same thing (which they might not be), they mightn’t like it. Before I started researching and playing around with pheromones, this ‘smell’ was what I thought of when I though of pheromones. It’s sort of a heavy musky fragrance, but the effects work even when I can’t smell the ‘fragrance’ clearly (this might also be because my sense of smell is lousy - I’m blind in one nostril, you might say :slight_smile:). The effect is pretty intense sexual attraction - not arousal in the presence of the woman (like the effect of -none on women), but something less immediate. From the past, I know that it can get pretty intense.

So, that’s a lot of fun. There’s definitely something happening in my head, and it seems like she’s feeling something too. She is a client, but I think that since our behaviour has been so friendly and unbusinesslike since we first met, I think anything could happen if consenting adults agree. And it’s quite possible that nothing will happen. But it’s fascinating to watch

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The last journal entry has been greatly expanded - detailing further adventures with the very friendly & flirty girl.

I forgot to mention it last time, but we usually meet on Thursdays, at 19.30 - that’s the last meeting of the day for me (which allowed me to spend 90 mins with her instead of 60 mins). Anyway, we both innocently agreed to meet the same time next week. On the tram home, I realised that, uh, we seem to have a date for Valentine’s… hmmmmm…

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8 February 2008

Heh, thanks for the reps, r :slight_smile:

On Friday I wore instant shine. I’ve left this too long to write up and I’m not sure how much I was wearing - I guess it was 3, one hair, wrists and somewhere else.

I think I’m getting more of a feel for shine now. For the first meeting, I was under pretty strict time constraints, and the guy gave me a long CV to help him improve (linguistically :slight_smile:), but I we somehow managed to keep a balance of efficiency and good humour.

The second meeting was with a relatively new client - this was the 3rd meeting. For the first (29 Jan), I was wearing 2x ammo, for the second (1st Feb), some instant honesty. The funny thing is that - and maybe this has nothing to do with pheros - in the first meeting she was quite fun and good humoured, but the second was noticeably less fun. Her reaction to me seemed to be less appreciative. Not actually bad, just - less wonderful than the first time. Today she was in a great mood, not just passively enjoying herself, but getting involved, making stupid jokes, generally having fun.

Third meeting - very enjoyable for some reason. Hard to say why :slight_smile:.

So when I look back on the day, it was just a lot of fun, even more than usual. No obvious dramatic effects, but fun is exactly what instant shine is meant to cause, right?

The usual disclaimer: I don’t know that it was the pheros. In the absence of dramatic, incredible hits, it could be just a coincidence. I’m not trying to be super-skeptical, rather I want to be able to clearly perceive the effects of the pheromones. Apart from dramatic hits, the other reliable way to see that the pheromones are having an effect, is to observe the same behaviour each time a given pheromone is worn. So that’s what this is: data collection. I’m still trying to get my head around instant shine. I grasp the self-effects, and recognise them. So I’m trying to see what’s happening to other people.