Girls attacked me FOR NO REASON!

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Nobody here said anything about being surprised only that we were sorry this happened to seducerbeast. She already said she wore a massive amount of cops so she did take responsibility for that.

We have posted more than once on the effects of wearing alot of cops and taking responsibility for that I believe one of those posts is a sticky at the top of the womens forum so the women here are not ignorant when it comes to using pheromones.

I think each of us including the men have had a OD effect of some sort when we started out using pheromones and some of us have done it on purpose just to see what its like.

Pheromones in no way excuses a persons poor behavior or lack of self control. Mones are in fact subtle in nature and while there presence may cause irritation to a person it would only cause violance to people who have no self control to begin with.

Women can and have ODed on none. I have done it myself and its not a pretty feeling. Turned me into quite the bitch and a horny one at that. The bitchiness didnt exactly turn my husband on so he didnt have sex on his mind at that point. In fact he was pretty much backing away from me saying what the hell is wrong with you and he is a Alpha so that is rare for him. I even at one point thought of just taking what I wanted but my self control kicked in and I took a shower with alot of anti-bactrial soap. It helped but it took a few hours to feel like myself again.
I think when people say Mones have a subtle effect they mean when used correctly. To much of anything in the world can cause a bad effect.

Tisha

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I thought six drops of EoW was a quite common dose, not an overdose?

I also thought people frequently wore Instant Sexiness at the same levels that have been described here and during the day to work.

The doses described struck me as a strong mix, but not a massive od. Am I missing something as I am now a bit confused? :confused:

May

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I happen to agree completely, poor behavior should never be excused. I’m sorry for anyone that experiences a bad overdose. But I do have to disagree with this one point:

The thread has primarily been not about pheromone usage, but instead about pheromone overdoses. Nothing subtle about overdoses. The pheromone isn’t saying something, it is screaming it at the top of it’s lungs on a mega phone. Look at the threads on instant jerk, people are aware of what it could potentially do, and yet people still find themselves doing things they can’t believe they did. You mix in people with poor self control when they don’t even know what pheromones are and that’s a potentially bad situation. If you can tell which people have very poor self control at a social gathering somehow, please tell me the secret. That’s something that’s always eluded me.

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May she wore 6 drops of EOW plus IS/A and Lust after me. All 3 have cops in them. Thats a cop bomb. :smiley:

Most women dont wear that amount of cops out unless they are with there TG. Dolly does but she is a very strong women with alot of experience with mones and knows exactly how to handle the outcome.

While it takes 6 to 10 drops of EOW to get my husband going only wearing 2 or 3 without him around can get other guys to take notice. I suspect it is because my husband smokes.

I will wear Instant sexiness to work and add a drop or 2 of EOW to my perfumes and lotions because its just a trace amount. I never wear it straight without my husband around anymore because, well while I like attention he is my only target and when I have used more the attention level went up to a uncomfortable level for me.

I thought the post about wearing cops in the correct enviroment was in our sticky but its not. I will have to look for it and post the link.

Tisha

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Sorry but I ment “IN NATURE” as in natural mones. I should have been more clear there. If you read my whole post you will see that I say “to much of anything can have a bad effect” and that “mones are subtle when used correctly”.

We are agreeing to a extent here but your first post did come off a little sarcastic so I think we reacted to that.

I am very good at reading people but no I cant always predict when someone will lose there self control. I dont think anyone really can. I think the best we can do is prepare ourselves for when we do meet up with those kind of people and think rationally before we react back.

Tisha

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both that, but also worth remembering is that when the alcohol goes in, the selfcontrol, wisdom and dinner goes out :wink:

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Mmmm. The only explanation I can think of is that the drink thrower girl thought she had some sort of claim on the guy you were talking with. Like if he was flirting with her earlier in the evening and got her number etc–and then she comes outside and sees him starting same process with you. Could be totally wrong in my guessing here. And it does not excuse her in the slightest.

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Ah… Thanks Tish

IS/A and LAM both have cops? That explains it I thought you had to specially request cops from Jas.

By the way, while I mention that and not meaning to hijack the thread - if you want 20x cops chocolatini scented IS/A (as an example) is calling Jas the only way to do this, or can you specify online?

Can you even get 20x cops IS/A ?? (oh, i do hope so…) :smiley:

May

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Yes, Lust After Me and Instant Sexiness both have cops. But, you can get the amount of cops “boosted” by calling Jas. You can’t do that type of customization online, I don’t think. I have ISexi A with 20X cops, but the only way they can do it is if they have enough cops on hand. They were running a little low, last I heard…so, you’ll have to call in and ask…

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Yes, you have to be VERY AWARE of what can potentially happen when wearing a large dose of cops…be prepared for a large multitude of reactions.

For instance, you may have to peel some man off of you, or drop kick some “b” who gets an attitude…:smiley: :open_mouth:

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Excellent points!

It’s about awareness. Perhaps “responsibility” hit some people the wrong way.

If you dress up displaying all your expensive jewelry and walk through the back alleys in a bad part of town you had better be aware. One need not condone beatings and robberies to understand that they can and will happen under certain stimuli.

One difference with the megadose pheromone situation is that people may be exposed to a stimulus that they (or even their evolutionary ancestors) never encountered before, at least in that magnitude. Even someone with fairly good self control may be surprised by their first reaction until they have some time to adjust to the new stimulus and integrate it, and adjust their inhibitions accordingly.

There is a lot of talk about unusual DIHL reactions. Unusual aggression bears some similarities.

SeducerBeast has given us a gift with this story, and those who can hear it should remember the lesson of awareness it teaches.

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Are we all cool now? Can we hold hands and sing. . . ummm. . . what’s that song?

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Kumbaya.

Look, Scaro, I see your point but I’m not apologizing, because you accused me of reading too far into your post…but if you honestly felt like I accused you of condoning rape, you did exactly the same thing to a much further extent.

I used the EoW thing as a point of comparison, because it is something we have been through a billion times before, just like your post.

Anyway, May, I think you are correct. IS/A and LAM each only contain a trace of cops off the shelf, so unless SeducerBeast has a ramped up version, I think she was wearing a perfectly acceptable amount for a social gathering. Since off the shelf (I’m stealing Ail’s terminology here) IS/A, IS/B and LAM are appropriate even in a work environment, it’s not the same as adding extra EoW or MX216.

Scaro, your original post not only came off as sarcastic, it would really only have been appropriate if SeducerBeast had been excessively whiny or “woe betide” about the whole thing, which she was not. Neither were the rest of us in responding to her. We talked down the character of the moron who attacked her, and we were completely within our rights to do so.

Your Psychology 101 analysis of my post overlooked the reason why I brought up the rape scenario–because it’s the same “the pheromones made him do it” attitude. Not because I thought you would do or condone such a thing (NOWHERE did I say that). So if I showed up to work after taking a bath in -none and got slapped by a female co-worker, or if I showed up to worked after taking a bath in EoW and a male co-worker grabbed my ass or something, just because I knew what probably provoked them wouldn’t mean I would be any less within my rights to report them to HR than another phero-less co-worker in the same situation.

I also wouldn’t be any less within my rights to refer to them as the jackasses they would be (these are not real people, by the way, my co-workers are awesome), which is really all we were doing in this thread before you jumped in.

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Lol, I guess not. :smiley: Clearly an insufficient dosage of chill pills

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I feel better now. I thought this sort of thing only happened in the men’s forum. The main diff is you guys are more articulate.

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Thanks Dolly! I will, as soon as the next paycheque comes in. I think I have used my phero budget for this month already!

May

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Hmmm. . . Kumbaya does not seem to be working. . . I know! Veggietales!

“Everybody’s got a water buffalo,
Your’s is fast, but mine is slow,
Where they come from I don’t know,
But everybody’s got a water buffalo.”

Okay, in my opinion I think everyone is just misunderstanding each other so I think it is best to just drop it. No one is wrong, and no one is a freaky rapist from what I can tell. I think we can all agree that pheromones do in fact alter people’s actions and attitudes, especially the ODs. These effects can be good, and these effects can be bad. The people who respond to the extremes are usually the people who can’t or won’t exercise much self control in the first place. Everyone needs to take responsibility for their actions, whether it be the pheromone wearer or the person who swings the punch out of jealousy. It sucks, but that is the way things are. Some people may get provoked for apparently no reason at all, even if the provoker was not wearing pheromones, a miniskirt, or whatever. Then it is best to get out of that situation and stay out of it as best as possible and behave in a mature manner.

Now, I apparently started this whole fight here. May I please end it?

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Hon, I don’t think you started it. I think he took offense to me DARING to insinuate that there was something wrong with the attacker.

Yeah, I was done after that last post. If he honestly believes I called him a rapist, that’s an irrationality you can’t fight.

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Whoa, Whoa, Effing Whoa! Kumbayaaaaa peeps!

Damn, can’t a girl go on vacay, LOL! I come back and am attacked for “not taking responsibility”

Are you serious? I said I OD’d. I was informing other women of the affects of the combination. I said it was jacked up situation and the girls were haters. I said I would (and suggested that others) not wear this combo.

Thanks Tisha and LaurieNY (and everyone else!) for having my back since I have been gone! Much Love!

Gone with the Wind: That was my intentions with the post. To give the gift of letting others know my situation and to learn from it.

As others have noted, I DID take responsibility for wearing an insane amount of Cops. As this forum condones, I put my experience with that OD so that others won’t do it. It sucks I went through it, but coming on here and assuming that I didn’t take “responsibility” is wrong. Like LaurienNY relayed, I didn’t go “whoa is me… poor little me!” I came with a “What the eff was that!!!” mentality and wanted to help other women on here with my experience. That’s why we are all here!

I greatly appreciate all those that send their condolences and such. It meant a lot It’s not nice to be on the verge of getting your ass kicked.

Scaro: your post came of as sarcastic and condescending. I hate that I come back from a great vacay and read what you were saying. I hope you understand what some have tried to get through to you. Regarding the rapist scenario, I don’t believe anyone thinks you are one or you condone such actions. It was merely a matter of a cross-reference to the whole idea of,

“Someone/something made me do it therefore I am not responsible”

That mentality is wrong. Even I can say that wearing a large dosage of Cops wasn’t the brightest idea and yes, I def hold some responsibility for it. I never said I didn’t. Those psycho girls were jealous and basically haters - and are probably haters with or without pheromone involvement.

People are responsible for not controlling their actions. Just as a rapist is responsible for his actions even if a girl is wearing a mini-skirt and wearing IS/A. Deep down those girls are haters. Deep down a rapist is a rapist. They each have their own catalyst and we should be aware of such. I let these women know that a catalyst for some psycho women is an OD on cops. A catalyst for a rapist may that she has RED HAIR or wears EYEGLASSES!

Should all us women get Lasik and dye our hair?

Ones pheromone signature should not allow for another to translate that into a physical altercation:

“I am an alpha-male. I walk around with confidence. I exude superiority. All the women want me. I do not touch you, I am just around you. Watch as I stroll through the club. Behold my aura!!!”

You’re saying it’s the guys fault for just “Being the sh!t?” He should take COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY for another’s REACTION to him? Donald Trump has that aura and I’m sure he doesn’t use phero’s. He just IS. People hate on him for that and try to take him down every….single….day. Who fault is it then? It’s true that when you hold power you must watch your back. Lol, what’s that saying?

“With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility?”

But when does the responsibility fall back onto the aggressor?

Let’s say I am African-American. Some people don’t like blacks. Is that my fault? Should I take “responsibility” for a KKK’s members reaction to me??? (I know, I know, this is allowing for us to go on a whoooole other tangent, don’t really want to go there…..)

I see where your logic lies, however, and to an extent I agree. Hey, we wouldn’t walk down a street in South Central in the middle of the night with a stack of Benjamin’s on our head, now would we? When we wear phero’s we must take the good AND the bad that comes with it. I guess what some mean to say is that “responsibility” for ANOTHERS REACTION TO YOU is a very difficult subject to tackle and in the honor of “kumbaya” let’s just leave sleeping dogs lie.

Now that this mess is over with, hopefully I helped someone who decides to bomb themselved with Cops and stand on a sidewalk outside of a club. Be sure to bring an umbrella.

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Indeed it is.

The difficult subjects are the most interesting ones.

Here is an interesting thread in the Men’s forum that raises some of the same issues in my mind.