Girls in their 20s + A314 = Intimidated?

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Hello,

So for those who have been reading my journal, I have been gaming my co-teacher whom I will no longer be working with after May 5.

She’s 24, white, and absolutely gorgeous. I get the sense that she is aware that she is attractive, but she is unaware of how far her attraction reaches (i.e. she thinks she’s a 7 when she’s really an 8 or 9).

We started out with her with a boyfriend (extremely beta fellow). Boyfriend of 4 years, broke up in January. She says she’s completely over him (although they still are in contact), and she downloads all the apps and starts talking to other men.

Her best friend (weirdly physically, but not sexually, intimate even when she had bf – bf and him are friends) is clearly into her. Now, I have the feeling something is up with them.

Here is the thing: I do believe she was into me for a while, and she finds me attractive. I start wearing A314, she grows distant. One night, while A314ed up and her drinking, she puts on a SHOW. Talks about how crazy she is in bed with her roommate sitting right there, starts talking about all these boys who are into her, just putting on REAL hard.

So my question: Could A314 be intimidating to a certain girl (socially conservative, clearly a little bit emotionally vulnerable due to breakup)? Is it possible that this is a case of negative fallout? With the presence of alcohol, is it possible that girls will try to show their own worth/desirability like it looked like she was trying to do?
Right now, she is rather distant with me. Professional, but distant. The flirting has completely ceased to exist.

I will try a fallout mix on her soon strictly for experimental purposes (and to perfect my fallout mix).

On May 5, I’m shaking her hand, showing gratitude for being an awesome coworker, then walking into the sunset. If she wants to call to hangout, that’s her prerogative. I will not be calling her.

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Fallout can sometimes seem unpromising when its starting to develop.

Subjects are often having to deal with unexpected and sometimes unwanted feelings - esp if they are highly social/independent types who have not been used to having their feelings latch much on to anyone before. Often they need to go-through this stage before the positive aspects begin to manifest themselves.

Similarly, if they are not long out of a relationship, they may not actually be at the point where they want to be feeling bonding/crushy/pairing-up feelings just yet, esp if its been a bad break and they still need to let the dust settle or if they are not at a stage in their life where they actively want an LTR.

And some of this could apply to a great many mid-20s girls TBH - they are still enjoying being free and single, with no intention of settling down yet.

And that’s the thing with A314, as well as status it does carry all the solid LTR values very well and IME it is often not until women hit their later 20s and even 30s that they tune-in to an A314 sig, with only a fairly small number of exceptions.

However A314 is still usable in smaller doses to underline other pheros with status and trust/bonding qualities and fallut can often present it from quite subtle doses, so maybe reducing the A314 proportion in you mix might help?

Some of your descriptions of that girl do hint at considerable immaturity to me - and again this often does not go well with A314’s inherent seriousness, maturity and status. Of course some women do like their men to take charge of them by strong leadership/mastery traits but others won’t welcome that at all.

Then finally some women, at any age simply do not go-on A314, so you need to look at other approaches with them.

So adapting your mixes to suit the different personality types might be a better approach. A1 mixes are good here as they can often be made playful, social, emotionally engaging and sexy, or the IH/P74 base mix, which has some common ground with A1 but is a good bit more empathic/bonding/physically close and comfortable but on a much more emotionally equal footing - IS, P83/103 ad TAC will all provide useful steering in different situations.

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One should always wear P74 as a buffer to A314 around targets of that age, or in general I feel. 25mcg is about the perfect dose, and it’s an excellent addition to any fallout combo. I suggested it before for precisely this reason. Given the age of your target, this component is one I’d consider crucial. Epiandrosterone would help quite a bit in this regard as well, though less-so than P74.

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I do find younger women in 20’s are intimidated by a314, unless its really buffered well, or they are extremely confident.

A314 does work with ammo for a 24 y.o Russian woman with me but she is much taller than me (3") and very articulate and ambitious.. So it works on her.

On other women in early twenties I have tried it on I find they respect you but can be very intimidated.

I find a314’s best place is still in business.. In business an intimidation factor can work for you if you’re a manager, CEO, VP etc.

YMMV

dsouza

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I agree with mobo.

Immaturity kind of is taken aback around A314. Like, “holy shit, this man is way out of my league, I’m nothing next to him, ugh…I’m going to cut my losses.”

Another conversation I had with this girl when she was drinking was about our GRE scores. She wanted to see who had higher (like it was a competition). When she heard how I scored, she kind of had an “ohhh…” look on her face. “Yeah, I think I’m going to take mine again…”

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She is trying hard to qualify herself so you’d be impressed. She is feeling that she is out of your league. It’s working. Since you are high status man, you should compliment her to make her feel happy. Women or people in general care more when someone of a high status compliments them.

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t A314 more for mature and self confident women, and IG is better for younger and more insecure women? Is that a correct assessment?

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More or less, yes but there will always be some women whose responses will surprise you, no matter what their age/ethnicity/cultural outlook would normally dictate.

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I haven’t used a314 for years, but from what I remember it was definitely not suitable for younger women. I had grown men bending over backwards for me, I can’t imagine how intimidated women younger women would feel around me (although I was quite young at the time)… it tended to attract quite a few cougars. Women my own age were scared or thought I was too mature, or too good for them and they automatically shut me out. Powerful stuff.