‘Heavyweight’ effect for more personal power: P80 + A314 vs AndrostEnone + A314

Some confirmation of P80’s ‘critical’, ‘cautious’, ‘scientific productivity’ self-effects from tacitus’ earlier posts (see below). This effect might be a useful add-on to A314 in a ‘get it right, don’t screw up’, thorough, on-the-task focus kind of way. P80 might be preferable in certain situations to P93, which while making you really want to push through the task, can also lead to a lack of cautiousness at times…

P80... clever grace note (P80... clever grace note)
tacitus (April 18, 2006):
“ P80… clever grace note

A long deep whoof of P80 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) . Not as immediately specific or blast offish as the big guns of moneland… heady and stimulating in the verbal expressive tangent… somewhat in the wisdom/thought provoking zone of MEO-EST , **contemplative perhaps ? Up contemplative versus Down contemplative… more afterglow than furious asspounding, I’m not gripped by desires, things sort of flow around me while my mind revs a touch higher, a bit more attentive… so far, a vote as a presence pheromone… a “state of being” refinement…”

P80... clever grace note - #4 by tacitus (P80... clever grace note - #4 by tacitus)
tacitus (April 18, 2006):
“ Walking around baked in P80

Hit the streets with shnurts of P80 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) on the brain… I’m feeling male, groundedly, solidly male, like my male identity has turned up 2 or 3 notches… however, I’m not feeling childishly male, or petulant, or turfy/jerky, or pretend to be GI Joe in civvies who needs to eye fuck everybody in range to prove his dick exists… no… that is sad, very sad… like watching Ultimate Fighters beat each other to bloody pulps to be the king of which hill did you say ? No… that’s a weak male identity posturing like a strong one… compensating for a hoard of insecurities nagging away in the background…

Thankfully, P80 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) is the other kind of male strength, solid on its feet, appreciative without being possesive, no need to put on a show… a lot of pure being energy… almost you might say, a form of “law enforcement psychology”… very aware, very conscious of boundary, no acting like an idiot o.k. ? We know by now that that is a waste of precious life force…”

P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose? - #36 by tacitus (P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose? - #36 by tacitus)
tacitus (April 19, 2006):
“ Hey, if they pack near the amperage of P80 you could arc weld with it

P80 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) was potent as hell. OTOH more sophisticated than androstenone. With P80 my mind felt unusually engaged, a dig deep and stay focused on the topic mindset, sort of the opposite of racy and centrifugal or spacy… because it lacked the adolescent crudity of -none did not mean that it lacked for potency… it was something I’d like to see guys using when the worked on structural steel… the message seems to be “get it right, don’t screw up”… however, an OD of this could potentially be waaaay to intense… think:

"“The drill sergeant campaign hat is one of the most prestigious and sought-after uniform items in the military inventory,” said CSM Scottie Thomas. “With the drill sergeant patch, worn by current and former drill sergeants, it signifies that a Soldier has accepted one of the greatest responsibilities in the Army today – turning civilians into Soldiers,” added Thomas, the Commandant of the Drill Sergeant School at Fort Jackson, S.C. "

Ah… how I pine for Drill Sargeant school… pirouetting around Fort Jackson, S.C. … handing out anal massage DVDs, vulva meditation DVDs, wafting P80 to keep all those sweaty mens in line… getting my ass kicked for bad attitude… more P80 …mooooore P80 … ”

P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose? - #57 by tacitus (P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose? - #57 by tacitus)
tacitus (April 26, 2006):
“ P80 in a group setting

P80 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) is a sneaky beastie… in a group it brought about a quiet, instrospective state of mind… the being aspect of people was amplified, where they could be quietly but deeply communicative… wholly non dramatic… measured, real… non erotic and non euphoric… I think this is the centering effect of it I felt last time…”

before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #2 by tacitus (before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #2 by tacitus)
tacitus (July 5, 2006):
“Experiences with P79 and P80

These are the two that I have focused on. Both are strongly male… and higher doses can engender a potent man energy. This can be intimidating and heavy male vibe to some. P79 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) appears to be more of a “doing” impulse, sort of tribal male wood carving, field clearing, working through the day, cut the shit and get it done… pretty young things find it attractive and shocking. Can have a kind of authoritarian firmness to it (that is sometimes called for) where P80 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) seems like it has a “being” contemplative maleness… like kicking back in the evening after work and thinking about the day while still in man mode. Together as a P79 / P80 they produce a kind of USMC officer quality in larger doses, and a dependable solid mature guy energy in lower doses… there is this interesting “I have no illusions about human nature” thinking that goes along with it… probably best in judicious 10 mu per phero squirt doses, a little goes a long way and establishes a lot of respect and some intensity, like you want to inhabit your best, most grounded self… and yeah, some beautiful young women got hot for me too… spontaneously giving me their number, all moist and … you know… ”

before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #53 by tacitus (before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ? - #53 by tacitus)
tacitus (July 21, 2006):
“I’ve tested P80 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) by itself and P75 + P76 + P77 + P78 in a custom mix… P80 is strongly male although I do not think as erotic as P79 … at least in me it is significantly “male being” versus P79s’s “male doing”… there doesn’t seem to be too much to prove, you just kind of are male… although in a deep way… this may vary a lot when added into other things at minute levels… I feel really focused and clear and complely uninterested in dithering around…”

Replacement for NPA? - #23 by tacitus (Replacement for NPA? - #23 by tacitus)
tacitus (July 24, 2006):
“Any comparisons with IMPI ?

there’s been some buzz about good synergy between the Androtics family of pheromones and Impi… something in the secret herb ? NPA has, you could say, a reputation that goes both ways… the downside is excess macho competitiveness… although this could conceivably be sweetened with P74 (Experimental Pheromone P74 - Alpha A314) , Alpha Androstenol ( good old original a-Androstenol has been a staple of mine for warming up what might otherwise be too hard edged ) , or EST … or quieted with TAC … passing note on P80 as a None substitution, girl comes over to my place to work on a project, my jacket is hanging on the rack, had sprayed a full 100 mu of P80 on the jacket that morning… this was evening so maybe a residual was still active… we were really clicking, got down into the work, did much more and “better quality effort”** then went out to dinner at a nice place and had a fantastic conversation (while I’m still wearing the jacket) … it was so natural **there wasn’t a pheromone presence like can be screamingly obvious with excess beta-Androstenol or too aroused to be for real like some of the sexo-combos… it was as if everything we did or talked about was just a degree deeper and a degree fuller than what we expected… leaving me with the thought that P80 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) , if applied immediately before, might be doing the good thing around 5 mu ? Sure was a lot more compelling, socially, than androstenone…”

P84.... a juicier version of P85 ? (P84.... a juicier version of P85 ?)
tacitus (September 1, 2006):
“…P80 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) which can bring out grit, determination, cut-the-shitness, not always guaranteed to put you on the Christmas card mailing list of all the Happye Phonys in your vacinity…”

P83... a nice little empathogen - #27 by tacitus (P83... a nice little empathogen - #27 by tacitus)
tacitus (November 18, 2006):
“interesting you noticed this facet of some of the P series… the cool objective sizing up… really felt that in spades with P80 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) when the dosage got high…”

P93.... yes, it exists... no, you can't have it... - #15 by tacitus (P93.... yes, it exists... no, you can't have it... - #15 by tacitus)
tacitus (December 9, 2006):
“…I had little patience for trivial crap, a la P80 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) , but it was less authoritarian, less dark and looming…”

P103 alone while sick with the flu: uplifted and giddy, but sexless (P103 alone while sick with the flu: uplifted and giddy, but sexless)
tacitus (March 22, 2007):
“…or P80 (the Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry when pissed pheromone)… and having said that… sometime like a dot of yin in a field of yang, just the littlest bit of of a P80 can sometimes add a solidity and realism… anyway…”