hello! another female newbie needing help!

hi everyone! i’m so happy to have found this forum, i’m hoping that all of you knowledgeable people (along with a few strategically placed pheros) can help give me the edge i need! :wink:
first, a bit about me: i am a 24 year old single girl.i am fairly confident looks-wise, i’m sterotypically pretty and take care of my body! i work as an office manager and the only other person in my office is the owner, my boss - so no phero play at work! no one to impress there, i plan on leaving that job in a few months and going back to school. i study psychology and want to be a forensic psychologist.
i stumbled across this site while searching online for rules of seduction, the game, etc. i’m so glad i found it! i’ve been lurking for days while waiting for my access to this site to be granted.
now here’s why i am here! i hope i don’t sound pathetic :wink: my TG is a guy who is a few years older than me, i met him several years ago, when i was 19. we had an instant chemistry and even though we’ve lived in different cities for a lot of the last 4 years, we’ve had an on-again-off-again (but mostly on again!) fling. we became pretty close. the last year we both lived in the same city and had a great time, we were never in a relationship and we both knew that. we would talk online often, on the phone once in awhile and we’d see each other once a week (i’d sleep over at his place since he lives alone and i live with my sister). he’d make me breakfast in bed, drive me to work, we’d go out for lunch if it was a weekend, etc, so it’s not like it was a “jump in bed then sneak out before morning” kind of thing. we can chat for hours over a bottle of wine, and would frequently.
anyways, he made the decision this summer to move to a different city to go to grad school. also during the summer we got in an arguement because i didn’t agree with the way he handled a certain situation s i, after many conversations and warnings and emails and chats explaining my position, finally said fuck it, you’ve lied to me and gone against what i’ve repeatedly asked you to do here, i don’t want you to be a part of my life right now. i asked him to stop contacting me, and true to my word i did not talk to him for 3 months.
anyways now that he’s moved away we’ve recently started talking casually again - only once in a rare while b/c he doesn’t have the internet at home (lame) and we normally have our long chats over msn. anyways in the last few weeks since i’ve started talking to him again he’s made it clear that he really values me as a person and really wants me to still be a part of his life (in the form of a platonic friendship, even though obviously there’s still chemistry there)…
he came to my city 2 weeks ago and asked to meet up with me to chat, and i agreed. we had a good chat, but in that chat it came out that he’s already moved on and is sleeping with some other girl in his new city (some chick he grew up with, so he already knew her and had slept with her once before, years ago). anyways, i’m not surprised. i see her posting on his myspace so i figured the second he moved to that city, he’d start something with her (eek, this is getting SO long, i’m sorry!). anyways to wrap it up, i’m devastated because i’m really attached to him (though i am 98% sure i never fell in love with him or anything!) - he’s very much into seducting and “the game” and stuff and while i used to think that stuff was dumb (and consistently told him so) i am now realizing that i guess it works because i still am really attached to him and can’t stop thinking about how i just want him back! grrr. so i guess i want to flip this around and try and use some of that on him. obviously it works! he’s easily bored by simpleton girls who aren’t seductive or complicated, etc.
so this is why i’m looking for an added edge! i know there is still major chemistry here (he admits to still getting turned on every time we talk) and he has said he values my opinion over most everyone else he knows - so there’s something there but we’re not in the same city and he’s sleeping with someone else :frowning: so i guess i just want to get a handle on pheromones now so that i can plan to strategically wear some next time we see each other - basically i want to remind him of what a fabulous catch i am (:wink: ) and how much fun we had together and since he’s so in to seduction and stuff, i want him to feel - hmm…intrigued by me, like he hasn’t gotten everything he possibly could from me, like i could have more to offer him or more wisdom to bestow upon him or SOMETHING, to give him a reason to pursue us further. i want him to be intrigued by me and miss me and think of me, like i do him! does any of that make sense?
can anyone help me? :confused:

in terms of social, i am trying to get out and date to get over him so i guess i could use a boost of confidence, i’ve been considering instant shine and instant sexiness because who couldn’t use those? i’m pretty well able to turn on the charm when i need to, when meeting new ppl though so i don’t need a ton of help in that regard!

thank you SO MUCH if you’ve made it this far! :slight_smile:

Hey asta84!

Good to see another maidemoisselle in the forum! :slight_smile:

Sorry to hear about your past relationship with the guy there…the thing that I don’t understand is that, are you looking to just seduce him? or being in a ltr with him? you said you weren’t in love with him and just attached, so I’m just a teensy confused :wink: my brain is just probably fried from homework lol

Anyhow, just to tell you. Pheros just enhance you, to me it seems like the guy there is a player type, so I guess you could have him lust for you and that’s about it.

Instant sexiness is great, I think every lady in the forum has to have one in her arsenal, I made a report on the difference btw is/a and is/b A break down of IS/A and IS/B, take a look at it, and choose the one that feels more compatible to you :slight_smile:

Have fun, and don’t forget to report! :smiley:

Welcome to the forum!

Instant sexiness and Instant Shine are great for every woman. I would try both sexiness-es. You can also add Instant Honesty for a bit of bonding to make a bit more romantic interest.

Read the stickies in the Ladies forum, to see what pheros can and cannot do.

Hi Asta84,

First of all great to have a female member here in Pherotalk so welcome :slight_smile: Hmm sorry about your past relationship there, well there is a chance to salvage that back.

Ok for your situation, you are right to consider Instant Shine & Instant Sexiness as i was going to recommend the same thing. So i will explained a bit of what i know about those two. Instant Sexiness is a good attraction phero & it is a must have for every ladies in here from what i hear :slight_smile: As for Instant Shine, it is great for boosting self confidence & make others being comfortable with you :slight_smile:

If you wish to know more info on Instant Sexiness, i’m sure Lady Tisha AKA Tisha23 will be able to tell you more when she visit your intro soon.

See ya :slight_smile:

Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

My name is Tisha and I am blunt LOL Yes mones can help with your situation but be sure its what you really really want to do. Ask your self do you want him because you want to have a future together or because someone else has him. Ask yourself if you get him back what are you going to do next time you disagree with something he does or says because men will do what they want whether we like it or not.

Enough said about that onto mone business.

Isex would be good to start with. IH for a deep connected close feeling.

If they had LAM in stock I would suggest that. It should be back soon so keep a eye out for it.

Something I normally dont do is advise putatives to new people but this one will benefit you best. P74 for bonding

I think the attraction is there but the bond was broken by the way you reacted to your arguement. Re-establish the bond.

If you have questions just ask.

Your GC is on its way :smiley:

Tisha

thanks so much for the greetings!
msselva: i completely understand why you’re confused, haha! i really, really care about him and definately feel attached to him, and i know that he cares about me. having said that, i’m not sure he’s the man i want to marry - but i haven’t met that guy yet, and he certainly hasn’t met the girl he wants to marry yet, so i wouldn’t mind being with him til either of us meet that perfect someone! does that sound stupid? i just still want to be with him - and still want to be WANTED by him - and if he had moved on and was seeing someone that was good for him, or that he wanted to have a LTR with, then i would totally respect that and be happy for him but the truth is, the only reason he and i aren’t together is because he is in a different city, and so he’s found some other girl to have a casual fling with while he lives there. he definately has admitted to me that his biggest fear is being alone, so you’re right, he does jump from girl to girl from time to time, and always likes to have someone around - i just want that someone to be me! haha. thanks so much for your advice on the instant sexiness and i will DEFINATELY check out your report on the difference between A and B (i’ve done a lot of reading about that here and am still trying to decide which ones best for me!)
butterfly - thanks for the suggestions! i read the thread and i guess i’m hoping that since the chemistry and respect and desire to be in each others lives is already there, pheromones (plus me and my efforts and attitude) can help give me the edge that i feel i need, to have him (as a man in his 20’s, always thinking about sex!) lust after ME and not some other random chick, or at least remember fondly the times we had together and wish that we could have them again?
phatsounds - thanks for the welcome, and your advice! much appreciated!
and tisha - i always appreciate blunt-ness, honestly! lol! i know what i’m asking probably sounds a bit silly and naive, but like i said he and i do care about each other but i’m a girl and he is the only guy i’ve ever been with (groan) and so naturally i imagine i lust after him and whimsically remember the good times we had, more than he does! i imagine that he, as a guy, remembers the times we had when he’s reminded of them, but other than that is just out living in the moment and finding other cute girls to prey on! i know pheromones can’t change him or that but if i can get any edge in reminding him that he used to be intrigued by me and used to actively pursue me then why not? right? at the very least it might motivate him to seek me out for conversation more often, or to come visit or something, to be more motivated to remain a part of my life, in whatever role that is most healthy for us. but really - i just want him to Lust After Me :wink:
thank you so much for your pheromone advice, too - i will definately be purchasing what you (and the others) suggested. i have to do some research on the is/a and is/b because i’m not sure which will be best for this situation - i imagine a coy, sexy kittenish b would be better than a strong sexy a?
also thanks for suggesting P74, i haven’t seen much about that here so far so i will have to go do some research!
i will be placing an order soon - should i wait for a week or two for LAM since i definately want some of that - or do you think it might be awhile?
thanks so much guys, i can’t wait to get started on my pheromone experiments and journey!

so sorry for the double post but i just thought of 1 other question i wanted to ask:
i know that TG (and everyone else i’ve ever met, for that matter) is more motivated to seek out and spend time with people who make him feel good. that’s totally natural. so is there something i could be using, in addition to a “sexy” vibe that i want to give off, to put him in a feel good mood when he’s around me? or is this unnecessary if i’m using instant sexiness? please help! thanks

ETA: hmm the longer thank you post that i posted right before this seems to be mia…not sure what happened there but thanks to everyone who responded! :slight_smile:

Hmm, i have studied your question even though it was quite confusing at first, ok you can use Instant Shine together with Instant Sexiness to make your TG feel good plus more attracted to you as Instant Shine has the feel good effect :slight_smile:

Hope that helps as that’s all i could think on your question there :slight_smile:

i’m so sorry if that was confusing, haha, i just meant that i’d read on here about a few specifically “feel good” pheromones, such as spaceland and a few others, that make people apparently feel good around you and want to be around you. i was just wondering if instant shine has enough of a feel good effect on others or if it was mostly used to make yourself feel good and happy!

Shine definitely can make others feel good and feel good to be around you. A lot ot users also report self-effects from Shine. But a lot of users also report self-effects can go down to zero with a lot of products with continual use. However, Shine is one that a lot of users continue to report self-effects even after using for a while. IOWs - self-effects - to include for Shine - can vary depending on the user even after using them for a while.

Hope that helps.

Ishine rocks Asta, Its warm charismatic upbeat and just works wonders.

Defiantly pick up at least a to-go of it, you wont regret it. :wink:

Tisha

It is ok Asta84 :slight_smile:, Well Instant Shine does both, it make you feel good & happy plus make others feel good too, this is what i think of Instant Shine in my opinion :slight_smile:

awesome, thanks for all your help, looks like i need quite a few necessities then!
tisha, just a quick ? about the P74 - i’m looking on the site and am not sure what strength to get. should i just start with the preselected 12.5 mxg/spray or should i choose something else? also is the neroli scent the best choice? please let me know! thanks :slight_smile: