Hello from a skeptic

I am a 36 year-old male living in a college town in Michigan. I’ve read up on pheromone colognes before and even purchased one, and it did nothing- no reactions. I don’t mention the name here because I don’t know if that’s allowed, but it’s from another company. If the mods could tell me whether it’s okay to talk smack about another product, I’ll mention it here. And I’m a good looking guy and workout out regularly. I can meet and chat up women, but this didn’t help in the slightest. I recently started looking into this again because although I have serious doubts, it would be awesome of this did work as the manufacturers claim. I figure with the $25 or more gift certificate, I have nothing to lose except a little shipping. I’m also skeptical of this forum and wonder if it’s astro-turfing. I’ll give it the benefit of doubt and see, but since the last product I tried did nothing despite the countless online testimonials, I read them again and am thinking they are from the manufacturer, so I hope you understand my skepticism. I don’t hesitate to mention my astro-turfing concern because although I am skeptical, I am also open minded, so if that is not the case, then I’ll find out soon enough.

But, aside from gift certificate, I also checked out Androtics direct with the better business bureau, and the company checks out. So that means they must either have quality products and/or stand behind their 365 double money back guarantee, which, by the way, is more than the other company gave me- 30 days. Being busy with life and all, I missed the return deadline and have had a full bottle of this garbage ever since. Anyway, I’m going to remain skeptical but keep and open mind because I really, really hope the products are legit, and whether they are or not, I’ll post the results. Thanks.

new456 welcome to forum. I would say your response is normal for most people; however the commercial formulas from this company work well. Keep in mind pheros in general help about 20% the rest is on the user. Start with the Instant line of products. They work for most people. Tell us what you think your problem is with the opposite sex? How do they view you? This will help us in relaying which products you should try.

I don’t really have a “problem” with the opposite sex, per se. I can meet women, and I am in a very happy but non-exclusive relationship, and we are very happy with that and keeping it that way. I don’t date much on the side, though, and don’t really want to- too much drama. Mostly, I like the attention and flattery of flirting, and can get that anyway, but it’s a crap shoot and I would love an edge. But I live in college college town, and I’m just older than the women around me. I have no problem saying “hi” to a woman and chatting and flirting. But the pheromones I bought did nothing. I got positive reactions, ignored, a few moderately negative reactions- basically the exact same damn reactions that I get anyway. And, even if pheromones “work” I expect the same range of reactions, but I would also expect some noticeable differences in responses. I don’t know what. I’ve read the forum at length before joining, and I’m looking for some of the positives that people describe here, and I’m willing to experiment to get it. I’m going to remain skeptical and open minded and see.

And I have read before that pheromones do x percent and the rest is up to me. I’m cool with that. I can say “hi” to the most beautiful woman in the room. I’m not shy. But if I’m not noticing any reactions that I wouldn’t get without pheromones, then I don’t know. I guess my main concern would be with placebo effect. If a guy uses them and believes that they will work if he says “hi” and talks to women, and he normally doesn’t then he could get a placebo effect. With me, however, I am already saying, “hi” so if it is placebo effect, there won’t be any with me. If it’s not placebo effect, then I’ll post it in the forums. I would love nothing more than to be a true believer and rave about the products, but, I have been burned before. That was partially my fault for missing the 30-day return, but, on the other hand, I’m convinced that I bought snake oil. But I’ve since realized that doesn’t mean that other products were snake oil.

Hi, I was a skeptic at first too. But I get very noticeable self-effects from Instant Shine. It raises my mood significantly and then I crash after 3-4 hours. After experiencing this a few times, I read about others on the forums having the same crash effect, so I think it’s not the placebo effect. (And I’ve never heard of a “crash” from a placebo!) I seem to get some self-effects from Instant Openness too, but I am a very suggestible person and go into trances easily, so I’m not so sure that I’m getting hits from that one.

In any case, I’ve had nothing but good results from Androtics.com’s customer service staff. They’re friendly, helpful, and get your order out lightning fast. That’s no placebo. :slight_smile:

If you’re interested in younger women, try Instant Shine and Instant Gentleman. Your GC should cover a to-go of each of those.

Thanks. From what I am reading it could be that the one-size-fits all that I bought from another company didn’t fit me. I’m not afraid to experiment with different combinations with the one year guarantee, so I’ll put the work and time in and maintain a healthy skepticism. I’m really hoping that I’m wrong and it works!

Welcome

Since you live in a college town that has mostly younger women, take tezza23’s advice and try out Instant Gentleman, it’s good for attracting younger women. If you’re an older guy, it will make you seem younger and if you’re a younger guy, it will make you seem more mature.

Ammo is also good for attracting women in generally and it could be a sexual attractant. When wearing this, try to notice that women are checking you out which they always do but they are very quick and subtle.

By the way, it’s ok to talk smack about another product on here. I bought this product called “Pherlure” that came with “Score” as a free gift and both of them blow balls. I only use them as a cover up scent now because it actually smells pretty good.

When I first heard about and discovered about pheromones, I was actually very excited about the fact that there’s a product out there that can influence behavior in people. I wasn’t skeptical at all or maybe I’m just a very open-minded person. I been using these products for about 3 months now and spending a couple hundreds on them because they work for me.

Give these products a try and see for yourself, you have nothing to lose but a whole lot to gain.

The garbage that I was referring to was pherlure. Useless crap. But you’ll find a lot of positive “reviews” online, which are most likely from the manufacturer. That’s why I read a lot of this site first because I wondered if all the positive posts were hype, but they sound like real people to me. I’m waiting for my GC, and I think I’ll get some instant gentleman, instant openness, and ammo. I would love to try A314, but I don’t know when it will be back. I’ll probably go over the $25, but there is the guarantee, and I have no fears that the company will honor it, since the BBB rating is good.

Hi there and welcome to the forum. Skepticism is good and you are not alone at all. While I appreciate the confidence that I am able to assume and create 13000 active online identities, posting millions of posts every day, in actuality I struggle with answering the 14 new introductions daily :slight_smile:.

I am sending out your GC to your email in just a little bit. With it you can pretty much get two to go bottles for free. Can’t beat that with a stick :slight_smile:.

We all work very hard behind the scenes to ensure every customer is very happy and I am sure you will be too. Welcome to the forum

Thanks. I’ll order as soon as I get the GC.

They dont work..Someone used them on me and it gave me a headache at best. Dont waste your money. Now if only I could make get rich quick scheme like this

I’m not. I’s supposed to get a gift certificate in my email How is that wasting money?

Why does everyone get an attitude. I am telling you they don’t work and just because you want to believe they work does not make them actually work. You know everyone wants to believe ab rockers work…You know what actually works? dieting. Not being obese. In order to have abs you must have a flat stomach with no fat first. Really I am not trying to be a bitch but i am a female and I am saying they do nothing for me. Men use them on females. It did not make me hot in the pants. Sorry

How did I get an attitude? Honestly, you gave me your opinion and told me not to waste my money, and then I asked how it would be wasting my money if I used a gift certificate. I understand that it is hard to read or convey tone through a message board and email, but your response about getting an attitude is a non sequitur to an honest and polite question. I am skeptical, and I am open minded. So I’ll test them out for free and see what happens. Seriously, what do I have to lose?

I’d be surprised if they work, but I hope that they do, and I am waiting to see. As for how they worked on you, I think they are a bit more subtle. I’m not asking women what they think of these phermones I bought and whether it’s making them horny, so you’re not the ideal test sample. I’m reserving judgment until I conduct my own tests. And I’ll post my results, good or bad. I’m going to put this stuff to a real test.

I just ordered instant openess (2x), instant gentlemen, and ammo (2x), all in to-go, so it was about $18 after the GC and new user points. I also talked to my wife about pheromones, and she’s going to order some too after I try them out. I would say we have an open marriage, but that sounds like we’re out there getting freaky all the time, which isn’t the case. It’s more like we both know we’re not monogamous and are honest and not jealous about that. We have had way less partners in the past 8 years than most single people, so there. I mention it because if this works out, I think a journal from both perspectives will be quite interesting. Unless people get all judgmental about what works for us and what we’re happy with. I’m actually a bit more excited for her. It does wonders for her self esteem when guys check her out or flirt.