Hi everyone,
Im a 23 year old male from England, UK. I came across this website after doing a general search on Google about Pheromones. I have considered in the past, buying something and giving it a go but have never really followed through with my interest long enough to actually make a purchase, mainly because I had doubts about it, thinking it was probably one big gimmick. However, since taking a week or so to browse through the forums, I have heard nothing but good responses from people (apart from the sometimes negative effects of OD, but that’s something you have to work out for yourself with some experimentation I spose). So I have ordered some Turn Up The Heat – which people may advise is a wrong choice for what I want to use it for (explained below), but I like the sound of its effects lol.
The reason I started looking at Pheromones again is due to a situation I have found myself in where I need an invisible ‘force’ to hopefully push things further forward in the right direction. I will try to keep as much unnecessary detail out of it to start with as I can, and probably will go into typing overload and end up with a massive essay within no time at all! So…..
I am in a position where I have become very good friends with a young lady (aged 21) who I met on a dating agency a few months back, but nothing ever happened, due to events in her life which meant she wanted to put things ‘on hold’ (in her words) and be ‘just friends’ before we managed to properly got to know each other. The ‘events in her life’ I am referring to is in the form of her ex-boyfriend.
Basically at the time we hooked up on the dating agency, she was single (recently split with her bf of 6 months ish after he cheated on her). She said to me at the time she wanted things ‘on hold’ (not in as many words though!), that she had to choose between giving things another go with her ex, or carrying things on with me. Anyway, needless to say, she chose him, which is understandable considering she hadn’t really got to know me at the time she had to choose between us. Since being ‘on hold’, we remained being friends and got on REALLY well to the point that we feel like we are friends who have known each other for years – we sort of clicked, if that makes sense?
During the time spent with each other, we have been getting closer and she has been opening up to me about her boyfriend. Basically, without all the details, to sum him up, he has very rarely been affectionate, caring, loving, doesn’t want to do hardly anything for her, and generally does all the receiving but gives nothing. So she has been a bit run down by his attitude towards her and also feels that since they got back together again, her love for him has taken a dent (understandable given the hurt she went through), but I can tell, its still strong! I think what she means is, she is less tolerant towards him now. She has laid her thoughts down to him numerous times saying that he needs to buck his ideas up and start showing love towards her etc, but no changes on his part at this stage.
Anyway, this has been going on since the Christmas break really (i.e me getting closer and closer to her, and her boyfriend continuing to aggravate her with his personality / attitude towards her). I have stayed at her place a few times with her, and, we share the same bed (which means nothing if you are ‘just friends’), and the first few times I stayed, she kept to her side of the bed and I kept to mine. Neither of us are the sort of people who would cheat on our partners, so I wasn’t expecting her to try anything on , and I had no intention on doing anything either (by the way, the reason I stay over at hers is because there is a reasonable distance between me and her). However, over the past week or two, she has started holding my hand in public, cuddling up to me in bed, and as of the last time I stayed over, she was starting to touch her legs on mine while she was cuddling me in bed. I know this is not shocking or ground breaking stuff lol, but for a ‘just friends’ relationship, when she has a boyfriend, it seems strange! By the way, I have ALWAYS ‘kept to my side of the bed’ if you know what I mean, and I don’t return any physical stuff, like cuddle her back, I let her do all the physical stuff because I don’t want her accusing me of trying stuff on with her. She told me the other night that she almost kissed me earlier that evening and if she did, would I kiss back. I said yes I would kiss back but I would feel bad for doing it, given the circumstances, she said she would have felt bad too. She has also asked me on a completely separate occasion that if she wasn’t with her boyfriend, would I? (i.e would I have sex etc). I said, to be 100% honest with you, yes, I wouldn’t think twice.
It is worth noting that, before she started getting physical, I did tell her how I felt towards her, that I had fallen in love with her etc. And she told me she has strong feelings for me too, but she felt she had to give her boyfriend a ‘proper chance’ or else all the hurt she went through when they split last time would be wasted, and also, another thing she has said more than once (and inferred many times) is that she doesn’t think they will last long together. She also said that if she didn’t give him a chance, and see it through, then she would feel resentment towards me, if me and her didn’t work out – which is completely fair enough and understandable – she is standing by the decision she made to give him another chance as opposed to taking things further with me. Oh the other thing she said was, I didn’t need to tell her my feelings towards her, she already knew (i.e she felt it / noticed it), which I think is a very good thing!
So, by the end of last week, I was feeling as though she was closer to me than she had ever been, and was slipping further away from her boyfriend. I don’t want that to come across as me trying to pull her away from him – I am just ‘being me’ around her, she likes me, and likes spending time with me; im not trying anything on with her etc, the only thing is, she knows my feelings towards her and that I love her, so for her, I am an open door waiting for her to take the step inside. Anyway, after spending a whole weekend with her, I dropped her at her boyfriends in the evening. I spoke to her the next morning and she said that he was calling her someone else’s name in his sleep. Now, it’s worth knowing that, in addition to him cheating on her before, she has also been very suspicious since they have been back together. Apparently he lies about where he is during the evening and his sex drive has diminished to practically zero (whereas before they split, it was VERY high). Bearing in mind I only know her side to the story because I have never met her boyfriend, but by the way she talks openly to me, I know she is telling the truth.
Well, she was very upset and hurt about the name in the sleep instance and was telling me how she feels. She told me that when she asked him about it in the morning, he looked her into her eyes and promised her there is no one else and that he loves her. Now, I don’t like giving my opinion on her relationship with him because im not in the best position to give an un-biased judgment. She knows that, but she still tells me anyway, so I basically told her that I don’t know him, I have never met him, but I do know liars and cheats very well (my ex was exactly the same as her boyfriend appears to be). I said to her I am being completely un-biased when I say this but from my experience, liars and cheats don’t care about the consequences of anything they say, in that, they will say whatever it takes to keep you sweet. So, for him, looking her in the eyes like that and saying what he said doesn’t mean anything to him – its no skin off his nose! When I told her that, she said I know you are right, but he has a strong hold on me and I don’t know why. Well, I said its called love. She said that she was going to lay the facts down and demand the truth when he got home from work that evening. I spoke to her later that evening and she said, he promised her there is no one else and they ‘had a big chat’.
So, finally, the history is out of the way and I am getting back on topic, slowly but surely! Firstly, any relationship advice / opinion on my specific situation would be appreciated, although I think I know what my next step needs to be…. Secondly, when I am around her, what would you recommend I wear, to bring her even closer to me, making her feel like she just HAS to be with me no matter what? Lol – I don’t expect there is anything that can do that lol!
Oh, and on the topic of Pheromones / Cologne…. I don’t know if many of you have heard of this Eau de Toilette, its called Issey Miyake? Well that’s what I normally wear. I wear it everyday, to work, going out; and normally, before I go to see this girl, I shower, so I have a fresh ‘application’ of it on me just before I meet her. Well, she said that she LOVES the smell of it, which is one of the reasons I bought it because I heard lots of girls like it. However, she has mentioned an Eau de Toilette that she ADORES. So, what I thought was, I will order this one she mentioned as she is familiar with the smell of it, and I will use the Turn Up The Heat spray with it, the first time I use it, otherwise, just adding a Pheromone to my normal ‘smell’ may shock her subconsciously (from what I have read on here that seems to be the case?). The thing is, it will be the first EVER time I have used any form of Pheromones, and I wont have time or be in the correct situation’s to experiment with it before I use it around this girl. So, if there is any advice on where to apply it, how much (given my circumstances) and what order to put it all on and whether it can be applied at the same place as the pheromone? Questions questions questions lol, you can tell im a newbie!
The effect I want to have on her is to get her to the point where she will do ANYTHING to be with me. I.e enhance my presence around her so she misses more when I am not around, and sees a bigger difference between me and her boyfriend. I know Pheromones on their own will not achieve this, but as you can tell from reading this thread, I am already pressing all the right buttons with her (I think!!!) by the reactions I am getting from her, I just want that bit extra – sort of like a sting in my tail lol
I am weary that this thread is starting to sound like ‘how to use Pheromones to steal someone’s girlfriend’, but its not how I want it to come across, its not my intention if that is how it sounds – I could go into a lot more detail which would make the situation clearer, but I don’t think more detail is needed for the purpose of my questions, plus this thread already is an essay (I told you I can get carried away typing!)!
Thanks for your help /advice in advance, and I hope I will be able to report on here soon that everything has worked out!
Equally it costs Androtics $50 to ship to us, yet they only charge us $30!