Need a Pro's Advise!

So Let me begin with my Story first before I ask ya’ll some question…

Story is always about the girl right, Mind you this before I did any Pheromone stuff lol

Well back in Feb I starting to talking to this girl at the store. She was really cute, around the same age. She a Single mother, had some bad relationships…IMO it seem we was really good. We dated for a short bit, I ask to be the gf and she accepted. So we done everything all couples do. but after a mouth she broke it off because she said she still hurts from her bad relationships, but she ask me to still say around and keep doing everything that we was doing. just no title.

Ugh! anyways so it was cool until she was saying…maybe we shouldn’t do “stuff” like that anymore until I know 100% I love person. I can understand no prob. Then the little pet name stop…OK, fine…you know where this is going to lead. So Finally it happen and she says “I only think of you as a Good friend I can trust” BOOOOOO! fine, I’m not going to try to think too much into it, but we can still be friends.

Now, its been about a few weeks now, and we keep in touch by text. I still see her at the store every so often, I ask her do you want to go out again, “as friends” she said she might be busy but we’ll see. I didn’t think much into it, but I got an text saying want to hang out this week. Well I’m going to meet up with her next week, I want the Pheromone to help a bro out!

So I want to see and ask ya’ll what should I use when I’m with her. I want to bring that “trust me” vibe but also “I’m more then a friend”

I have a314, IS, IH (togo), Ammo, TUTH What do you think I should use? I don’t want to OD you know. We are both 25 ish…she a Latina lady, and I’m a Black male. what do you think?

oh while I’m on the subject, since I’m technically single I’ve been trying to talk to this lady at the gym, but you know there only 2 types in the gym. the Look at me and talk" and the “I’m working out, this is not the time” and she is the “this is not the time” girl. also she always have her Ipod on so I don’t want to interrupt, I got mine own work out to do also. what should I were when I’m at the gym so i it will be somewhat easier for me to talk to her or have a 1up on the competition.

Thank for the help everyone, also thanks for readying! I really need the help!

ignoring her will do more right now than any pheromone product. making sure that she sees you in the company of another lady (totally coincidentally of course) will fan any flames. don’t call her or send any sms. next time she sends you a message just blow her off, if she persists just tell her you’ve been busy.

you’ll either get laid or you’ll get rid of a time waster. either way it’s a win for you.

Don’t waste your time. There are plenty of women out there just as hot and hotter. Don’t come down with a case of oneitis, but we always want what we can’t have. She probably got another guy and she’s keeping you on the bench for al non intimate activities. I had a friend who liked this girl, he was sure they were going to end up dating. They would go on lunch dates, movie dates, drinking but nothing sexual ever happened. She was seeing another guy and just using my friend for the times when she got bored. What kind of bad relationships did she have? Physical, verbla, emotional abuse?

Did anyone READ altoplayer’s post? The girl is a single MOTHER. She doesn’t get to just fuck around - that’s what got her in trouble in the first place. Every guy she sees, she’s going to be thinking in the back of her mind “can I see him IN OUR LIVES” - and she HAS to. She’s not alone, she’s got a child and that means there is someone else FIRST on her every list.

You want a “trust me” vibe when she’s got more on her mind than sex? “More than a friend” are you gonna be a daddy to her kid? She has let you know; you have been processed and been found not suitable for her needs. And the needs of her kid - these are inseparable. Be a friend and respect her decision - she didn’t make it before the 2 of you got to know each other.

Go mess with the gym girl and don’t complicate the single mother’s life.

Having been raised by a single mother myself I gotta agree with Astrea. With the caveat that you can try to pursue things if you’re ready, WILLING, and most of all ABLE...to handle the responsibilities that come with taking on a ready made family.

That means “really liking her” but making minimum wage flipping burgers isn’t enough. You gotta accept that having her in your life, means taking on the kid as your own financial responsibility.

Now for all I know you may very well be a CPA with a six figure income so I’m not accusing you of being broke or a slacker. I’m just letting you know that if you escalate this situation you’re basically saying that you know the costs that come with the package deal and accept them.

josef & Blacky Chan- Let me be clear, Im not looking for a easy lay. I can care less about fucking, yes i know I can maybe find someone else, I just want to know what phero to wear when Im with her.

Astrea-again, sex not important. 2, I knew before I talk to her that she had a kid, was I willing to be a daddy if things got farther, YES. If i wasn’t, I would not waste my time, effort or money. Don’t think I was complicating a single mother’s life, she smart enough and been with enough dumbass to know what is up! again she the one who asking me to hang out with her again, I do respect her decision, and I wont push the subject, I just want to know what phero to use…

RADMAN513- Thank you! that’s a response i was looking for, kind of lol. I knew going in what is needed, we both of us know that we should be in a better position in our life in terms of money and so on. I can’t explain everything between both her and I but I think like she said hurt from the other guys, and not ready. She was Really fucked over, and even she told me your the best I’ve been with. we both have a special place for each other, I think in the end phero is not going to do nothing. It going to take more effort on both parts. I just want her to let her guard down.

On another note sometimes girls that have been in bad relationships don’t know how to deal with normal relationships.

Blacky Chan- I can agree with that…

A good way to use Mones to help?
One of the things she’s considering is using them to get ahead professionally and financially.
A314 is pure gold for work, but depending on your age, current position and type of work it may be too much to start with.

But IG and IH are great for giving your employer the sense that you’re a reliable, solid, hard working and trustworthy guy. Regular use of that combo with a little extra effort around the workplace and raises/promotions are high possibilities.

Thanks for the info radman!

Not sure why people jumped to the conclusion you want to hurt this person. You have given her her space and let her move at her own pace. Your keeping your options open in case things dont work out which you should do. Sounds like your approaching this the right way to me. So far I think the advice given (except for the mone advice) is more about the people giving it then it is about your situation.

I think the suggestion of IG and IH is great. I would add some Ishine to that as well to increase warmth charm and a feeling of well being. Dont use any of the sexual mones like TUTH until she has established more comfort and trust with the relationship.

Tisha

Thank you Tisha! I think you are right in both counts. Do you know the diffetents of IG and IJ, the both seem the same to me…

At your age I was pretty much in your situation. I was trying to get a chick who had a kid into a relationship. For some reason I fell in love with her while she saw us more like fuck buddies. When she made it clear that she wanted to be free to sleep with whomever she liked but that she still liked what we had I said “Hey, let’s be BFF” and walked out the door.

Best thing I ever did. Didn’t see her again for some 15 years until we got together last summer and we still are friends but I wouldn’t want anything more. Absolutely not.

What I’m saying is that I think you should just let her go if she doesn’t want what you’re looking for.

IJ and IG are worlds apart.

IJ is high anone (plus some other undisclosed mones) Its aggressive pushy and gives the player vibe. I dont think this would go over well with her.

IG is a Arone mix. This is a alpha male mix that gives a feeling of respect safety comfort, dependable mature attractive vibe.

Look at it this way… IG is the knight in shining armor. IJ is the jester.

She called him.

Tisha

well now this is getting back on topic.

a single mother who’s been “hurt” before? whodathunkit? a man chasing after her while she’s running away? imagine that!

this is not a phero situation. this belongs in a high school after school special. she has no time for you and yet you chase her, have no time for her and she will either come back to you or you will have to acknowledge that it wasn’t meant to be. hypnosis can’t force anyone to do something they wouldn’t do otherwise. if you are just going to torment yourself over one woman then at least follow the wise words from the tao of steve the next time you see her, “be there, be excellent, be gone”

I think the term “friends” was used, and I believe it was in this context but if I’m mistaken you may rectify me.

Yes it was used. So what ?? Its not like he just wants to bang her and kick her to the curb. He wants to develop something more or at least thats the impression I get.

She hasn’t put him firmly in the friends box yet and even if she has that doesnt mean he needs to stay there.

I think she is just scared and he needs to lead. I am not going to jump to the conclusion that his intentions are dishonorable just because he is keeping his options open or that she will never consider him more then a friend. The pheromones wont make her do anything she doesnt want to do.

Tisha

Again, only your thoughts.

Thus the words “I think” before the statement :roll_eyes: (snort)